Wednesday, 29 July 2015

Re: [wanabidii] UKAWA SUMU HAIONJWI HATA SIKU, UKIONJA UTAKUFA TU

Magwayega,
1 Anza sentesi kwa herufi kubwa kisha zingine ziwe ndogo. Unapoandika usionyeshe kuwa mawazo yako ndiyo mawazo ya kila mmoja, tumia sentesi ya "Kwa maoni yangu" utakuwa umewatendea haki wenye mtizamo tofauiti na wewe.

Iipokuwa tu kuja jamaa humu na baadhi yetu walishatoa kauli huko nyuma kuwa "Hawezi kumpa kura moombe masikini" Je hawakuwaza kuwa kutakuwa na option kama hii, mtu mwenye pesa waliyekuwa wanataka kumpa kura kahama cha wanachoki support, je resolution yao itabadilika?



On Wednesday, 29 July 2015, 14:17, 'leonard magwayega' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:


HATA TUKIBISHANA VIPI UKWELI UNABAKI PALEPALE, LOWASSA HAFAI KUWA RAIS WA NCHI HII NA CHADEMA IMEKULA KWAO MAANA WAMETAPIKA NA KULA MATAPISHI YAO.  HAWAFAI KUPEWA DOLA HASA MBOWE. HAWASEMI WAMANISHACHO NA WALA HAWAMAANISHI WASEMACHO ( THEY DON'T SAY WHAT THEY MEAN AND THEY DO NOT MEAN WHAT THEY SAY).  NI WALAFI, WENYE TAMAA YA MADARAKA, WABABAISHAJI, WASO NA DIRA. WAKO KAMA NDEGE CHICHIDODO AMBAYE HAPENDI KULA MAVI LAKINI CHAKULA CHAKE NI FUNZA NA WADUDU WATOKANAO NA MAVI. LOWASSA NA MBOWE NI HATARI SANA KWA USTAWI WA NCHI HII.
LEONARD elias MAGWAYEGA (ESQ).



On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 8:26 PM, 'john msinde' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Nakubaliana na wewe kabisa, Mama Ananilea.
Natambua wewe ni mwanaharakati wa mda mrefu. Katiba ni kiungo muhimu katika kufumua huo mfumo. Ni katiba hiyo ya wananchi ndio ilipigwa vita na hii serikali tuliyonayo, kwa maana hawako tayari kwa mabadiliko ikiwa ni pamoja na kuweka sheria za kupinga ufisadi. Kwa hivyo basi ili tupate katiba itakayokidhi kama ilivyoridhiwa na wananchi ni budi kuwapa uongozi wale walio tayari na katiba iliyopendekezwa (UKAWA). Sasa nani watapenda awe mgombea wao hilo ni swali la pili. Ila tunachojua huyo watakemsimamisha atafata misingi ya hivyo vyama.
Ahsante
John



On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 6:31 PM, 'ananilea nkya' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Sawa kabisa Mike,
Lakini huyo mtu ili aweze kufumua mfumo ni lazima kuwe na misingi ya kikatiba inayompa nguvu nguvu na zaidi inayoupa umma nguvu.
Ananilea Nkya
 E-mail:ananilea_nkya@yahoo.com

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On Tue, 7/28/15, 'Mike Zunzu' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [wanabidii] UKAWA SUMU HAIONJWI HATA SIKU, UKIONJA UTAKUFA TU
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2015, 4:05 PM

Kwenye
dunia ya leo jenda siyo hoja, tumekuja kuelewa na kuamin
zaidi kuliko pale mwanzo kuwa binadamu ni sawa, kwa hiyo
suala la kutoa nafasi sawa kwa wanawake na wanaume liko
sahihi, ila tu nafasi kama hizo zisitolewe kwa lengo eti
kuweka usawa, kuwe na nia njema ya kufanya hivyo, naamini
kabisa hata kusudi lingelikuwa ni lazima kuwa na Spika
mwanamke, kuna kinamama wengi tu makini hawakupewa hiyo
nafasi na ninaamini wangelifanya kazi bora kuliko kuwa mtu
mwenyenafasi nyetu kama hiyo kuwa msemaji wa chama. Je kwa
nini binadam ni vigumu kunakili kwa watu
wengini?Sipingani
sana na yule mtu anayesema mtu mmoja anaweza akawa chanzo
cha kufumua mfumo uliopo, inawezekana kabisa, kwa mfano Rais
akijitoa kupambana na walio chini yake wale watakaovunja
miiko ya uongozi, anaweza. Anakataa kata kata kugeuzwa kuwa
jiwe la chumvi at any cost. Siyo mtu
kuanza uongozi kwa nguvu na kadiri muda unavyopita nguvu
zinazidi kufifia na kuwa mtizamaji kama wengine wasiokuwa na
mamlka hayo. 



    On Tuesday, 28 July
2015, 15:36, 'ananilea nkya' via Wanabidii
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:

   

  Hapana John,
Mfumo unafumuliwa kwa kuweka misingi, siyo mtu
mmoja (Rais). Misingi ya kufumua mfumo  Katiba ya Wananchi
CCM waliizika pale Dodoma. Tusijidanganye. Tulidanganywa
Bunge likiongozwa na mwanamke litakuwa poa kwa wananchi-je
ni kweli Bunge lililoongozwa na mwanamke limesaidia wananchi
au limewaumiza zaidi?
Ananilea Nkya
 E-mail:ananilea_nkya@yahoo.com

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On Tue, 7/28/15, 'john msinde' via
Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:

  Subject: Re:
[wanabidii] UKAWA SUMU HAIONJWI HATA SIKU, UKIONJA UTAKUFA
TU
  To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
  Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2015, 12:39 PM
 
  Muhingo

unasema...'Kama
  ni mfumo CCM imeonekana
kuufumua ndiyo maana ikamtema

Lowasa....' sidhani kama hii ni sahihi. Yaani kwa
  kumtema Lowassa ndio imefumua mfumo. Sijui
lini wameanza
  kuufumua huo mfumo wa ufisadi
-past
  habits die hard. Kweli tunapoongolea
siasa tunaongelea
  uendeshaji wa nchi, sio
kamari, lakini ni muhimu kuwa na
  madiliko
makubwa ya kimfumo katika huo uendeshaji. Maana ni
  miaka zaidi ya hamsini tumekua na mfumo ambao
umezidi
  kutuletea umaskini. Kwa hiyo ni
wakati sasa wa
  kubadilisha. Tuko
kwenye vita kwa hiyo si busara kuchagua

silaha kupigana na adui yako. Mimi mtazamo wangu uko
zaidi
  katika kuleta mabadiliko ya
uendeshaji wa nchi. Lakini
  kumbuka Lowasa
alipokatwa hakuna mtu CCM aliyethubutu kusema
  sababu ya kukatwa kwake, lakini pia sikatai
anazo kashfa za
  ufisadi kama walivyo
wanasiasa wengine. Ni 'kashfa'.

Kama lowasa atahamia UKAWA na hao wengine uliowataja na
  kama watapokelewa na UKAWA hatujalijua
bado. Ila kwa sasa
  tumjadili Lowasa kama
ni mtu sahihi kwa UKAWA au la. Lakini

lowasa pamoja na kashfa zake bado ni mwanasiasa mwenye
mvuto
  kwa sasa (ana wafuasi wengi
wanaoangalia mazuri yake), na
  ndio maana
UKAWA wamevutiwa nae wakijua mapungufu yake.
  lakini pia tusisahau utendaji wake na uthubutu
wake katika
  kutenda, sitaki kueleza hapa
mfano wa mazuri aliyoyatenda
  wengi
wanayafahamu. Tuzidi
  kutafakari! John
 
 
 
 
 
 
     On Tuesday, July 28,

2015 12:48 PM, 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii
  <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
 
   
 
  John.

Unamuongelea Lowasa yupi aliyeutumikia mfumo
  mbovu upi wa CCM?

Ninayemuongelea mimi ni
  Lowasa aliyekuwa
akikusanya pesa za watu akizitoa makanisani

na misikitini. mfumo sawa ulimruhusu. namuongelea Lowasa
  ambaye katika kukusanya kura za maoni
ameonekana kutoa pesa
  kupindukia.
namuongelea Lowasa ambaye wapambe wake ambao
  lazima ataongozana nao UKAWA  ni Chenge,
Lostam, Karamagi
  na wengine. naongelea
Lowasa ambaye kila aliyeona
  anavyotumia
pesa alizosema anapewa na marafikizake

alijiuliza atawalipaje watu hao ambao hawataendelea
  kufuatilia malipo yao CCM bali watamfuata
atakakokuwa. UKAWA
  inajiandaaje kumsaidia
Lowasa kuwatuliza watu hao?
  naongelea hayo
na mengine yanayofanana nayo na
  ndugu John
tunapoongelea siasa hatuzungumzii kamali au

mchezo wa mpira. Tunaongelea uendeshaji wa nchi kwa
manufaa
  ya watu wote.

Kumbuka watanzania walipokuwa
  wanajenga
imani yao juu ya vyama vya upinzani na UKAWA sasa
  hawakuwa wanajenga imani yao juu ya bendera za
vyama au
  magwanda wanayovaa. Ni ahadi
zilizokuwa zinaonyesha
  kutambuliwa kwa
matatizo yao. naongelea hayo yaliyosemwa na

UKAWA.
  Kama ni mfumo CCM imeonekana
kuufumua
  ndiyo maana ikamtema Lowasa.
Watanzania wanataka mabadiliko.
  Wakiyakosa
ndani ya CCM watayapata nje. S\asa CCM

imefanya kazi kubwa. Imefumua mfumo kwa kuanza kuwatema
  akina Lowasa.
  Nawaza kuwa
huenda
  wakayafurahia mabadiliko kwa
sababu  hawana chuki na CCM
  ila mfumo.
Mfumo ilioanza kuufumua.
  Nisaidie
  John kunielewesha zaidi.
 

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  On Tue, 7/28/15, 'john msinde' via
  Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
  wrote:
 
 
Subject: Re:
  [wanabidii] UKAWA SUMU
HAIONJWI HATA SIKU, UKIONJA UTAKUFA
  TU
  To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
  <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
  Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2015, 12:08 PM
 
  najaribu
 
  kuchangia hoja ya comments
za Muhingo na Mollel, kwa
  mtazamo
  wangu hili halina shida kwenye
  siasa. lazima tukubali kwenda
  na
  mabadiliko. upepo wa
siasa ndiko huko unakoelekea, lakini
  pia
tujifunze na siasa za nchi nyingine.
  wakati
Kibaki
  alipohama KANU Alisingiziwa
  ni fisadi lakini akashinda
 
uraisi, na
  tunaona siasa za kenya
zilivyobadilika baada ya
  changamoto za
upinzani. maendeleo pia

yamepatikana. Ugomvi
  wa ufisadi nchini
sio
  wa mtu, ni tatizo la kimfumo. watu
  wengi
  hamtaki kelewa hili.
Kwa hiyo tatizo sio Lowasa tatizo
  ni
mfumo wa chama alichokuwapo kabla ya

kuingia UKAWA. kama
  alikua ni fisadi
kwa
  nini hadi leo hakuna hatua zozote
 
  zilizochukuliwa dhidi yake?
sasa basi kama lowasa
  anahamia
  UKAWA ataendana na mfumo na sera
  za UKAWA ambazo zinagiga
 
vita ufisadi wa
  kimfumo sio wa mtu
mojamoja ili kuleta
 

ustawi kwa watanzania. lengo ni kuleta mabadiliko ya
  siasa
  nchini kwa hiyo kama
lengo la UKAWA
  ni kushika dola njia
  iliyotumika ni sahihi.
  The
ends justify the means. Ndugu
  Muhingo
  inabidi upanue fikra kuendena na hali halisi
ya
  siasa na kuelewa hasa maana ya
  mageuzi.wasalaamJohn
   
 
 
 
 
     
  On
Tuesday, July 28,
  2015 10:31 AM,
  'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii
 
  <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
  wrote:
 
   
 
 
    Molel nadhani
una
  matatizo. Toka tumepata uhuru siasa
za
  Tanzania zinasema
 
maadui wetu ni Ujinga,
  Maradhi na umaskini.
How comes you
  are

telling people that in Politics we dont have permanent
  enemies. It is America that dont have
permnent
  friends
  though
you can not creat enemities
  beterrn it and
Israel.
  usyaly we dont have
  enemity with people but their
  behaviours.
  Hooligans cant
change just because they have
  changed
memberships of political parties
 

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  On Mon, 7/27/15, 'Lesian Mollel'
  via
  Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
  wrote:
 

 
  Subject: Re:
 
[wanabidii] UKAWA SUMU
  HAIONJWI HATA SIKU,
UKIONJA UTAKUFA
  TU
   
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
    Date: Monday, July 27, 2015, 2:16 AM
   
    Elisa muhingo,siasa
  hujui
    na hutakaa ujue coz
unalazimisha
  ubongo wako
 
kwenda
   
  kusikotakiwa
mzee,read here
  carefully'
  in politics we
    dont have
a
  permeernent enemy' elewa bro au
niweke
  kwa
    kiswahiki
sanifu....kwenye siasa
  hakunaga
  uadui wa kudumu
   
  ,,,,,,,
 
 
Remeber slaa
  katoka ccm'sasa
    lowasa
  kuingia chadema
ni shida mzee,kwann asiingie
  ilhali
    ni mtanzani na hana hatia yeyote
  na ana mengi
  ambayo
anayo
    sirini na kibaya zaidi anungwa
  na watu wengi ambao nyinyi

 
  hamuwaoni
 
kabisaaaaa,ila wao wanojua siasa

wanaona'stop
    your eneminity
bropeace
  and love...usije ufe
  na dhambi ya
    chuki
 
 

Lesian
   
    Hosea
Ndaki
  <hosea.ndaki@gmail.com>
    wrote:
   
    Tuwe
  na subira, ccm
  wameshatangaza wa kwao,
 
 
  tusubiri na wengine ukawa
chadema cuf adc act, na tuone
  sera
    na ilani ya kila
  mmoja,
hatuwezi
  kufanya maamuzi kwa
  mwali
    mmoja aliyechezwa
 
  ngoma wakati wengine bado
wako kwa
   
  shangazi
  na kungwi.
   
    Hatujazijua
  sera za ccm
na
  ilani yao ya
   
uchaguzi, hivyo
  hivyo kwa ukawa na
wengine, kipenga
 
 
kikishapulizwa na kila mmoja
  akaanza
kujinadi ndipo
    tutafanya maamuzi.
  Tukizidisha makelele
 
tutawachanganya
    wazee wetu, tutulie
 
  kwanza.
   

    2015-07-26
  22:51
  GMT+03:00
   
  'jbifabusha' via
 
Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
    Mtalika.
    Una mapenzi
  ya
  kupitiliza kwa CCM.
   
  kwani ni lazima UKAWA
  kuweka mgombea?
  Usituchoshe
na
    ngonjera
 
  zako.
    WSent from
Samsung
 
 
  Mobile
   
   
 
 
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    From: 'mpombe
mtalika' via
    Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
   
    Date: 
 
  To: ELISA
   
  MUHINGO' via Wanabidii
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
   
    Subject:
[wanabidii]
  UKAWA
  SUMU
HAIONJWI
    HATA
  SIKU,
UKIONJA UTAKUFA TU
 
 
   
   
   

   
   

 
    Sasa ni karibia wiki ya tatu hivi
tangu
  chama
    tawala
    kutangaza
  mgombea wake
wa
  Urais, Mh. John Pombe Magufuli.
   
   
   

   
   

  Hapo nyuma
  UKAWA walisikika wakitamba
kuwa wanamsubiri
 
 
kwa
   
  umakini mkubwa
mgombea wa CCM, ili
 

wajipange
    kumsambaratisha. Baada ya
  uteuzi
    wa mgombea wa
CCM,
  UKAWA ni kama
 
wameingia kizunguzungu na
    kigugumizi,
  maana
    mahesabu yao
yamegota vibaya.
   
   

   
    Kinachoonejana
dhahiri ni kwamba uhai wa
  UKAWA
  unapewa
    uhalali tu
  na makosa ya
    chama tawala.
Chama tawala
  kinapo weka mambo
  yao safi na kwa
    umakini,
UKAWA
    wanaishiwa
  hoja
na uhalali wa kisiasa, kwa
  vile wao
  wenyewe
    hawana unifying
    ideology, apart from being reactionary!
   
   
   

    Tunachoshudia hivi sasa katika
UKAWA,
  kushindwa vibaya

 
  kukubaliana juu ya
   
mgombea wao urais ni
  kiekelezo tosha
kuwa
  UKAWA ni utapeli
   
wa kisiasa kati ya
   

mambumbumbu wanao wania urais.
   
    Hawajui nni awawakilishe na
 
  hawajui huko wanaenda
kufanya
    nini.Hii
  ni
  hatari kubwa!
   
    Watu
  wanaonadiwa na
mamluki
  wa kibiashara inaelekea
    watainunua UKAWA
  wakati
 
  wowote ule na ni
  kwa nia moja tu, kukamata dili zote za
 
  dola
    ili
wanufaike
 
  kiuchumi.
Lakini wananchi makini
  wanaendekea
    kugutuka.
   
 
 
 
   
  Tunajua kuwa hata
wapinzani ni watanzania
 

na huko kuna
    watu
   
  makini
  kitaifa.
   
    Simpigii debe Dr
  Skaa
  lakini haingii akilini
Dr Slaa
 
  kumtangaza
Lowassa kuwa
   
  fisadi,
halafu kula
  matapishi yake bila
  maelezo na
    kumkaribisha
 
  fisadi huyo

  huyo kukipigia debe chama
  chao.
   
   
 
 
 
   
  Maendeleo ya Tanzania ni kuwa na upinzani
 
  makini utakao
    sahihisha kama sio
   
kupiku chama tawala.Kwa ujinga huu wa
 
kukumbatia ufisadi
    ulio

temwa na chama
    tawala, UKAWA
  unawakaribisha kina Rosta na
  Karamaga and
  co.
    iliwagawane rasilmali
   
za nchi hii.
   
   
   
   

Mungu
  bariki, mpaka hivi sasa ndani ya
  UKAWA ni mtafaruku wa
   
kukaribia
    kusambaratika kwani
  hawajui
  wanaenda Ikulu
kufanya nini na
    kwa
 
madhumuni gani
    kwa

mwananchi wa kawaida.
   

 
 
   

  Sumu haionjwi
   
   

   
   

 
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