Thursday 30 July 2015

Re: [wanabidii] TULIOMWITA LOWASSA FISADI TUMUOMBE RADHI

I mean kwa sasa mzee muhingo hatuna mda huo wa kuanza kudiscuss ufisadi na nani kahusika'waliohusika wako ccm bhaaas
Nimesma nikarudia mara mia hata wenzangu wamekuambia acha kudiscuss hizo'vaa ngwada sema peeeeoooples...vite for us for change bhaaas
Lesian

'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>Mollel
>somavizur kilichoandkwa halafu ongelea ndqani ya track najua uliko (nilikuwako) tena najua niliko (hujafika) Jitahidi kwenda na mantiki. Utaelewa kinachoongelewa. Nimejadili maana ya mfumo na maana ya ufisadi nakudhani kuwa ufisadi sio mfumo-Hilo tu-Lijibu au liache twende mbele. Hukumuelewa John alipokusaidia usijitukane kwa kutumia maneno yasiyochangia mada. Ona hata muundo na muumbo wa maneno
>--------------------------------------------
>On Fri, 7/31/15, 'Lesian Mollel' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] TULIOMWITA LOWASSA FISADI TUMUOMBE RADHI
> To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, July 31, 2015, 1:36 AM
>
> Elisa wee mtu mzima badilika
> Richmlnd haimuhusu lowasa hata toneeeee mzeee heh
> Wee chuki uliojijengea kwa lowasa ni za bure utaingia
> jehanam kwa kujilazimisha,umei tune akili yako kutokukubali
> tuuuuu,kuendelea kua conservative with no logic....richmond
> omba pr confr kamuulize jk sku anatua airport toka aliko
> Cc utatukuta mbele kwa mbele tukiwaumiza wana ccm na mfumo
> wao mbovu,nakushaur acha tabia yako ya kuaattack watu attack
> parties,usikomae na jambo moja lisilo na maslah ya kitaifa
> kwa sasa tuko busy tunapogania maslahi ya kitaifa wewe
> unadiscuss watu....ooh richmond,ooh mafisadi or lowasa
> kaingia cdm
> Talk of what should we do to overthrow ccm bhaaas ndo habar
> ya mujini mzeeee
> Lesian
>
> 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hii ndugu zangu naomba kuiza. Ufisadi ni mfumo? Mfumo
> gani. Kuna mifumo ya utawala au siasa kama ubepari, ujamaa
> nakadhalika. Mimi nilifikiri ufisadi ni vitendo vya jinai
> ambavyo vinaweza kukua kutegemeana na watu kuona aibu
> kuvikosoa. au watu kuogopa kuwakosoa mafisadi. nafikiri
> ufisadi ni vitendo ambavyo mtu anaweza kufanya jambo
> litakalowatia hasara waliowengi ili yeye afaidike. Mfano wa
> mkataba wa Richmond ambamo watu walipitisha mkataba ambamo
> wat majizi wanalipwa capacity charges kubwa bila sababu za
> msingi na mapato hayo wanayatumia kununua uongozi.
> >Mimi nahitaji maelezo ili twende wote. Kama maelezo
> yangu ni sahihi kuhusu ufisadi basi dawa ni kuwaondoa
> mafisadi wala si mfumo tena na wanaweza kuwa popote kwa
> sababu watahama kama wamasai kufuata malisho.
> >Nisaidieni hapo
> >--------------------------------------------
> >On Thu, 7/30/15, 'john msinde' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Subject: Re: [wanabidii] TULIOMWITA LOWASSA FISADI
> TUMUOMBE RADHI
> > To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
> <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015, 4:06 PM
> >
> > Telesphor,Umeongea
> > kitu cha msingi sana, ambacho na mimi ndio mtazamo
> wangu.
> > Haitatusaidia
> > sana kuwajadili watu, nani fisadi? nani sio fisadi. La
> > msingi ni kuujadili na kuubadilsha huo mfumo unaoleta
> hao
> > mafisadi. Kama huo mfumo uko UKAWA au CCM, kila mtu
> anajua.
> > John
> >   
> >
> >
> >      On Thursday, July
> > 30, 2015 2:52 PM, Telesphor Magobe <tmagobe@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >     
> >
> >  Kwa sasa hakuna haja ya
> > kuzungumzia mtu/watu bali kubadilisha/kuboresha mfumo
> wa
> > utawala tu na kilichofanyika ndani ya Chadema au Ukawa
> > kinaonyesha mwelekeo huu.
> >
> > 2015-07-30 15:07
> > GMT+03:00 emmbaga <emmbaga@hotmail.com>:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Nimefarijika sana kusoma habari , Dr. Slaa amekataa
> > usanii huo na  amejitoa rasmi Chadema. subiri
> utasikia
> > zaidi. na narudia tena maana naona huelewi. Ufidadi wa
> > Richmond ni kitu kidogo mno ktk ufisadi wa mtu wenu
>  na
> > wala haukufanikiwa ( siuliumbuliwa
> >  na  kamati) nazungumzia wa tangu enzi za Nyerere
> na
> > ambao ndio unampa kiburi ya fwedha  anazowanunua watu
> > sampuli enu. anaweza asiwape Cash wengine wenu lkn kwa
> > kutumia taaluma ake a usanii  kupitia Media,
> > Makanisa,Misikiti...... ndio ninaozungumzia. amepata
> >  wapi mihela yote hio akiwa mtumishi wa Umaaa.
> hebu
> > tufafanulie hapo. mabadiliko sio kumtumia mtuhumiwa
> kuyaleta
> > sababu tu ana wafuasi wengi kama unavyodhani na
> anavyotaka
> > tuamini. haya  akisha upata Urais??.Jisikieni aibu
> > kutetea uozo.
> > "Hongera Dr .W. Slaa"
> >
> >
> >
> > hawa vibaraka waliobaki tutapambana nao kwa uwezo wa
> > Mungu.
> >  ernest
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Sent from
> > Samsung mobile
> >
> >
> >
> > 'john msinde' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Ernest, -time will tell kama
> > ulivyosema.
> >  Mungu atatuonesha adui yetu ni nani.
> >
> > kuna mambo mawili  tuyaweke sawa
> > hapa.La kwanza mtandao ulikuwepo ccm, huo ni mfumo
> > uliotumika kufanikisha ushindi uchaguzi kipindi hiko.
> > Anayehamia CDM si
> >  mtandao ni Lowasa. Watakaomuunga mkono kuhama nae
> sio wana
> > mtandao. Ni watu wanaoamini katika utendaji wake na
> > ambao wako tayari kwa mageuzi ya kimfumo wa kiutawala.
> Maana
> > mageuzi hayo ndiyo yatatuletea maendeleo.
> > Jambo la pili, ni lazima kuutazama
> > ufisadi kama ni mfumo uliojengeka kwenye ccm. Sio
> tatizo la
> > mtu mmoja. Wewe unafahamu kwamba Mkapa aliingia
> akiitwa
> > mr clean, lakini kilichotokea tulikiona,
> > sababu ya huo mfumo. Hili somo ni rahisi kama
> > ukiwa tayari kujifunza. lakini usipokubali kupanua
> mtazamo
> > wako itakua ngumu. Lakini pia Huyo lowasa ameongea na
> > amésema hiyo habari ya richmond ni agizo la
> > 'wakubwa'.
> >  Sasa hamisheni kesi yenu kwa hao wakubwa kuliko
> kuendelea
> > kumsimanga mtu asiye na kosa. Mnaogopa?
> >
> >
> >
> > 'in the war between falsehood
> > and truth, falsehood wins the first battle and truth
> the
> > last'  (anaglizo
> > huu si usemi wangu sikumbuki chanzo
> > nilichoutoa.)
> >
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > On Thursday, July
> > 30, 2015 12:34 PM, Ernest Philemon <emmbaga@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > Ngugu John ee !!
> >
> > huo  usafi  wa  Kikwete 
> > unauzungumza  wewe,  alafu  unajaribu 
> > kufanya  taasisis  ya  Urais  kama 
> > ya  kikundi  fulani  hivi  eti 
> > kama  alimweka  kua  waziri  mkuu 
> > kwani  hakujua  ni  fisadi.
> >
> >
> >
> > unafahamu  kuhusu  CCM  mtandao?? 
> > ambao  ulifanya mapinduzi  baridi  2005 
> > na kumwingiza Kikwete.  na  huo  ndio
> > ulijaribu tena  kumwingiza  huyu  mtu 
> > wenu Lowassa kwa  njia  zilezile,  sasa
> > imeshindikana  ,  amepata  mwanya 
> > wa  walafi  wengine   eti  apitie 
> >  CDM   mradi tu  awe  rais, 
> > na  mtandao  wake  uendeleee 
> > kutawala  nchi  ukiongeza  na  wapya
> > toka  CDM  doo!!!  mnataka 
> > wafanya  watanzania  milioni  zaidi  ya
> > 45   mali yenu  au  mazezeta?? 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > binafsi 
> > sikuwahi  kupiga  kura  kumchagua 
> > Kikwetea.  na  hii ni  sababu 
> > jinsi  alivyoupata  urai  kupitia 
> > Mtandao.  safari  hii  nampongeza 
> > kwa  kutusaidia  ku- block  Mtandao 
> > usiteke tena  nchi, kupitia CCM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > sasa  wanajaribu 
> > kupitia   CDM  ambao   nao
> > wametushtua na kutushangaza , hee!!  kumbe  yote
> > ilikua  ghilia  tu , hata  fisadi 
> > kwao  ni  mali  mradi  aje  na
> > wafuasi  kuongeza  kura. nitamshangaa 
> > mno  Dr. Slaa  akibaki  huko 
> >  , naamini  pia   wengi  wa
> > waelewa  ktk chama  hicho  CDM hawatakubali.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > najua  mtapata 
> > watu  wachache waliokua  mtandao  kuhamia
> > CDM  kuendeleza  usanii  wake  kua 
> > anakubalika na  wananchi  na  hata 
> > atapokelewa  kwa shangwe hasa akienda 
> > Arusha  ambao  wengi  ni wafuasi wa CDM
> > .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >   lakini 
> > watanzania  makini  na  wanaoipenda 
> > nchi  yao wakisaidiwa  na  mwenyezi 
> > Mungu,hawata kubali  ghiliba  hizo, 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > tuna taka  mtu 
> > safi  asie  na  kashfa kama zake  na
> > wako  wengi  tu, huyo  wenu  kaeni 
> > nae  mkimshangilia  lakini  uraisi 
> > atausikia  kwa TB  jushua alikokimbiliaga 
> > nanyi  wapambe   mtabaki  na  aibu 
> > yenu  tu.
> >
> >
> >
> > "time  will
> > tell"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ernest
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> > 2015-07-30 11:59 GMT+03:00 'john msinde' via
> > Wanabidii
> > <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ila pia huyo mtu safi aliyeambiwa
> > mda wake haujafika badae alimteua kuwa waziri mkuu
> huyo
> > aliyeambiwa fisadi. Sasa leo nongwa inatoka wapi?. huu
> sio
> > unafiki? Tubadilishe mitazamo yetu na kufikiri kwa
> upana
> > zaidi. Hapo ndipo tutaujua ukweli.
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thursday, July
> > 30, 2015 8:06 AM, emmbaga <emmbaga@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > Hakumtuhumu Kikwete lolote alimwambia mda wake bado.
> > lakini alimtuhumu Lowassa. haitafutika kamwe labda
> > angejitetea kipindi kile tungemwelewa labda lkin sasa
> > anatumia advantage ya Baba wa Taifa hatunae tena!!!  
> > mizimu itazungumza.
> > Ernest
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from
> > Samsung mobile
> >
> >
> >
> > fatma_elia via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ernest
> >
> >
> >
> > Baba wa Taifa alimkataa Lowassa na Kikwete. Mbona
> mlimtakasa
> > Kikwete mnamkataa Lowassa?
> >
> >
> >
> > Fatma
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by
> Airtel
> > Tanzania.
> >
> > From: Ernest Philemon <emmbaga@hotmail.com>
> >
> > Sender: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
> >
> > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 04:54:38 +0000
> > To: wanabidii<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
> > ReplyTo: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
> >
> > Subject: RE: [wanabidii] TULIOMWITA LOWASSA
> > FISADI TUMUOMBE RADHI
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tuache  unafiki,  Baba  wa 
> > taifa  alimkataa  Lowassa   hata 
> > mambo  ya  Richmond  hayakuwepo, 
> > nae  Lowassa  hajawahi  kanusha
> > chochote  alichosema  baba  wa  
> > taifa  marehemu Mwalimu Julius  Nyerere,  
> > leo  hii  we  Mama  unasema 
> >  aombwe  radhi  !!!! duuu  kweli 
> > hizi  njaa    zinapoteza 
> > hata  utu  wa  mtu. 
> >
> >
> >
> > ernest
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 04:22:00 +0000
> >
> > From: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
> >
> > To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
> >
> > Subject: Re: [wanabidii] TULIOMWITA LOWASSA FISADI
> TUMUOMBE
> > RADHI
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Kila anayetubu kwa dhati husamehewa
> > Nkya. Lakini uwe mwangalifu na siasa. Umesikiliza
> upande
> > mmoja tu kwamba EL alipewa amri ya simu, kutoka juu,
> kupitia
> > kwa Katibu Mkuu kwamba mkataba usivunjwe. Haingii
> akilini
> > katika taratibu za utawala
> >  kupokea maagizo na kutekeleza katika mtiririko
> huu! Agizo
> > haliendi hivyo, na mimi binafsi siwezi kutekeleza agizo
> la
> > jinsi hii. Je anayesemekana alitoa agizo akisema
> hajawahi
> > kupiga simu kuzuia kuvunja mkataba? Na hii inawezekana
> sana
> > katika hali ya mambo
> >  sasa hivi - kurukana! Nani atakuwa mkweli? Ni
> kupakana
> > matope, tupate upande mwingine wa shilingi, kwamba ni
> kweli
> > lilikuwa agizo? Kwa nini EL haku test authenticity ya
> agizo
> > hilo? Unaridhika na maelezo/maagizo ya subordinate
> > wako? 
> >
> >
> >
> > Please
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> > From: 'ananilea
> > nkya' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
> >
> > To:
> > mabadilikotanzania@googlegroups.com
>
> >
> > Cc: WANA BIDII
> > <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
> >
> >
> > Sent:
> > Wednesday, July 29, 2015 4:43 PM
> >
> > Subject:
> > [wanabidii] TULIOMWITA LOWASSA FISADI TUMUOMBE RADHI
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Nimemsikiliza Edward  Lowassa  kwenye you tube
> > tuliyowekewa humu jukwaani akiulizwa maswali na
> wanahabari
> > kuhusu kashfa ya Richmond iliyotokea alipokuwa Waziri
> Mkuu
> > miaka minane iliyopita. Kulingana na  majibu
> aliyoyatoa
> > hata mimi kama mwanahabari niliwahi
> >  kumwita fisadi kwa sababu ya  kashfa hiyo.
> Lakini
> > kulingana na maelezo aliyoyatoa ninakiri nilifanya
> dhambi
> > maana kumsingizia mtu uongo ni dhambi na binafsi baada
> ya
> > kusikia upande wake mimi kwa upande wangu namuomba
> radhi.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Kumbe kinara wa  kashfa ya Richmond alikuwa bosi
> wake.
> > Lo!  Sasa inaingia akilini ni kwa nini TOR za
> Mwakyembe
> > hakikumuweka Lowassa kama sample ya kuhojiwa kashfa ya
> > Richmond ilipotokea. Lakini kwa unyenyekevu Lowassa
> > alijiuzulu kuinusuru serikali nzima  isianguke.
> >  Mungu mwema miaka minane  baadaye ukweli kamili
> wa
> > Richmond unajulikana. Kama ulichokisema ni kweli
> Lowassa,
> > Mungu atakupigania kwa sababu ni wewe  na Mzee Mwinyi
> > peke yenu mna rekodi ya kujiuzulu kuonyesha
> uwajibikaji
> > kutokana na nafasi zenu na siyo kosa
> >  mlilolitenda  ninyi wenyewe. Viongozi wengine
> mpaka
> > umma upige kelele sana ndipo wajibaraguze kujiuzulu
> mfano
> > kashfa ya escrow 2014. Sasa ninaelewa ni kwa nini
> baadhi ya
> > watu wana hofu baada ya LOwassa  kukubaliwa na UKAWA
> > kuwa mgombea Urais.
> >
> >
> >
> > Namshukuru sana aliyetuwekea hii you-tube huku
> jukwaani
> > maana baadhi yetu ambao hatuko site tungeweza
> kuendelea
> > kufanya uchambuzi wetu kwa kutumia habari nusu nusu
> > tulizopewa miaka iliyopita kuhusu kashfa ya Richmond.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ananilea Nkya
> >
> >
> >
> >  E-mail:ananilea_nkya@yahoo.com
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