Hii ndugu zangu naomba kuiza. Ufisadi ni mfumo? Mfumo gani. Kuna mifumo ya utawala au siasa kama ubepari, ujamaa nakadhalika. Mimi nilifikiri ufisadi ni vitendo vya jinai ambavyo vinaweza kukua kutegemeana na watu kuona aibu kuvikosoa. au watu kuogopa kuwakosoa mafisadi. nafikiri ufisadi ni vitendo ambavyo mtu anaweza kufanya jambo litakalowatia hasara waliowengi ili yeye afaidike. Mfano wa mkataba wa Richmond ambamo watu walipitisha mkataba ambamo wat majizi wanalipwa capacity charges kubwa bila sababu za msingi na mapato hayo wanayatumia kununua uongozi.
Mimi nahitaji maelezo ili twende wote. Kama maelezo yangu ni sahihi kuhusu ufisadi basi dawa ni kuwaondoa mafisadi wala si mfumo tena na wanaweza kuwa popote kwa sababu watahama kama wamasai kufuata malisho.
Nisaidieni hapo
--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 7/30/15, 'john msinde' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] TULIOMWITA LOWASSA FISADI TUMUOMBE RADHI
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015, 4:06 PM
Telesphor,Umeongea
kitu cha msingi sana, ambacho na mimi ndio mtazamo wangu.
Haitatusaidia
sana kuwajadili watu, nani fisadi? nani sio fisadi. La
msingi ni kuujadili na kuubadilsha huo mfumo unaoleta hao
mafisadi. Kama huo mfumo uko UKAWA au CCM, kila mtu anajua.
John
On Thursday, July
30, 2015 2:52 PM, Telesphor Magobe <tmagobe@gmail.com>
wrote:
Kwa sasa hakuna haja ya
kuzungumzia mtu/watu bali kubadilisha/kuboresha mfumo wa
utawala tu na kilichofanyika ndani ya Chadema au Ukawa
kinaonyesha mwelekeo huu.
2015-07-30 15:07
GMT+03:00 emmbaga <emmbaga@hotmail.com>:
Nimefarijika sana kusoma habari , Dr. Slaa amekataa
usanii huo na amejitoa rasmi Chadema. subiri utasikia
zaidi. na narudia tena maana naona huelewi. Ufidadi wa
Richmond ni kitu kidogo mno ktk ufisadi wa mtu wenu na
wala haukufanikiwa ( siuliumbuliwa
na kamati) nazungumzia wa tangu enzi za Nyerere na
ambao ndio unampa kiburi ya fwedha anazowanunua watu
sampuli enu. anaweza asiwape Cash wengine wenu lkn kwa
kutumia taaluma ake a usanii kupitia Media,
Makanisa,Misikiti...... ndio ninaozungumzia. amepata
wapi mihela yote hio akiwa mtumishi wa Umaaa. hebu
tufafanulie hapo. mabadiliko sio kumtumia mtuhumiwa kuyaleta
sababu tu ana wafuasi wengi kama unavyodhani na anavyotaka
tuamini. haya akisha upata Urais??.Jisikieni aibu
kutetea uozo.
"Hongera Dr .W. Slaa"
hawa vibaraka waliobaki tutapambana nao kwa uwezo wa
Mungu.
ernest
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wrote:
Ernest, -time will tell kama
ulivyosema.
Mungu atatuonesha adui yetu ni nani.
kuna mambo mawili tuyaweke sawa
hapa.La kwanza mtandao ulikuwepo ccm, huo ni mfumo
uliotumika kufanikisha ushindi uchaguzi kipindi hiko.
Anayehamia CDM si
mtandao ni Lowasa. Watakaomuunga mkono kuhama nae sio wana
mtandao. Ni watu wanaoamini katika utendaji wake na
ambao wako tayari kwa mageuzi ya kimfumo wa kiutawala. Maana
mageuzi hayo ndiyo yatatuletea maendeleo.
Jambo la pili, ni lazima kuutazama
ufisadi kama ni mfumo uliojengeka kwenye ccm. Sio tatizo la
mtu mmoja. Wewe unafahamu kwamba Mkapa aliingia akiitwa
mr clean, lakini kilichotokea tulikiona,
sababu ya huo mfumo. Hili somo ni rahisi kama
ukiwa tayari kujifunza. lakini usipokubali kupanua mtazamo
wako itakua ngumu. Lakini pia Huyo lowasa ameongea na
amésema hiyo habari ya richmond ni agizo la
'wakubwa'.
Sasa hamisheni kesi yenu kwa hao wakubwa kuliko kuendelea
kumsimanga mtu asiye na kosa. Mnaogopa?
'in the war between falsehood
and truth, falsehood wins the first battle and truth the
last' (anaglizo
huu si usemi wangu sikumbuki chanzo
nilichoutoa.)
John
On Thursday, July
30, 2015 12:34 PM, Ernest Philemon <emmbaga@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Ngugu John ee !!
huo usafi wa Kikwete
unauzungumza wewe, alafu unajaribu
kufanya taasisis ya Urais kama
ya kikundi fulani hivi eti
kama alimweka kua waziri mkuu
kwani hakujua ni fisadi.
unafahamu kuhusu CCM mtandao??
ambao ulifanya mapinduzi baridi 2005
na kumwingiza Kikwete. na huo ndio
ulijaribu tena kumwingiza huyu mtu
wenu Lowassa kwa njia zilezile, sasa
imeshindikana , amepata mwanya
wa walafi wengine eti apitie
CDM mradi tu awe rais,
na mtandao wake uendeleee
kutawala nchi ukiongeza na wapya
toka CDM doo!!! mnataka
wafanya watanzania milioni zaidi ya
45 mali yenu au mazezeta??
binafsi
sikuwahi kupiga kura kumchagua
Kikwetea. na hii ni sababu
jinsi alivyoupata urai kupitia
Mtandao. safari hii nampongeza
kwa kutusaidia ku- block Mtandao
usiteke tena nchi, kupitia CCM
sasa wanajaribu
kupitia CDM ambao nao
wametushtua na kutushangaza , hee!! kumbe yote
ilikua ghilia tu , hata fisadi
kwao ni mali mradi aje na
wafuasi kuongeza kura. nitamshangaa
mno Dr. Slaa akibaki huko
, naamini pia wengi wa
waelewa ktk chama hicho CDM hawatakubali.
najua mtapata
watu wachache waliokua mtandao kuhamia
CDM kuendeleza usanii wake kua
anakubalika na wananchi na hata
atapokelewa kwa shangwe hasa akienda
Arusha ambao wengi ni wafuasi wa CDM
.
lakini
watanzania makini na wanaoipenda
nchi yao wakisaidiwa na mwenyezi
Mungu,hawata kubali ghiliba hizo,
tuna taka mtu
safi asie na kashfa kama zake na
wako wengi tu, huyo wenu kaeni
nae mkimshangilia lakini uraisi
atausikia kwa TB jushua alikokimbiliaga
nanyi wapambe mtabaki na aibu
yenu tu.
"time will
tell"
Ernest
2015-07-30 11:59 GMT+03:00 'john msinde' via
Wanabidii
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
Ila pia huyo mtu safi aliyeambiwa
mda wake haujafika badae alimteua kuwa waziri mkuu huyo
aliyeambiwa fisadi. Sasa leo nongwa inatoka wapi?. huu sio
unafiki? Tubadilishe mitazamo yetu na kufikiri kwa upana
zaidi. Hapo ndipo tutaujua ukweli.
John
On Thursday, July
30, 2015 8:06 AM, emmbaga <emmbaga@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Hakumtuhumu Kikwete lolote alimwambia mda wake bado.
lakini alimtuhumu Lowassa. haitafutika kamwe labda
angejitetea kipindi kile tungemwelewa labda lkin sasa
anatumia advantage ya Baba wa Taifa hatunae tena!!!
mizimu itazungumza.
Ernest
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fatma_elia via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Ernest
Baba wa Taifa alimkataa Lowassa na Kikwete. Mbona mlimtakasa
Kikwete mnamkataa Lowassa?
Fatma
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Tanzania.
From: Ernest Philemon <emmbaga@hotmail.com>
Sender: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 04:54:38 +0000
To: wanabidii<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
ReplyTo: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [wanabidii] TULIOMWITA LOWASSA
FISADI TUMUOMBE RADHI
Tuache unafiki, Baba wa
taifa alimkataa Lowassa hata
mambo ya Richmond hayakuwepo,
nae Lowassa hajawahi kanusha
chochote alichosema baba wa
taifa marehemu Mwalimu Julius Nyerere,
leo hii we Mama unasema
aombwe radhi !!!! duuu kweli
hizi njaa zinapoteza
hata utu wa mtu.
ernest
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 04:22:00 +0000
From: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] TULIOMWITA LOWASSA FISADI TUMUOMBE
RADHI
Kila anayetubu kwa dhati husamehewa
Nkya. Lakini uwe mwangalifu na siasa. Umesikiliza upande
mmoja tu kwamba EL alipewa amri ya simu, kutoka juu, kupitia
kwa Katibu Mkuu kwamba mkataba usivunjwe. Haingii akilini
katika taratibu za utawala
kupokea maagizo na kutekeleza katika mtiririko huu! Agizo
haliendi hivyo, na mimi binafsi siwezi kutekeleza agizo la
jinsi hii. Je anayesemekana alitoa agizo akisema hajawahi
kupiga simu kuzuia kuvunja mkataba? Na hii inawezekana sana
katika hali ya mambo
sasa hivi - kurukana! Nani atakuwa mkweli? Ni kupakana
matope, tupate upande mwingine wa shilingi, kwamba ni kweli
lilikuwa agizo? Kwa nini EL haku test authenticity ya agizo
hilo? Unaridhika na maelezo/maagizo ya subordinate
wako?
Please
From: 'ananilea
nkya' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
To:
mabadilikotanzania@googlegroups.com
Cc: WANA BIDII
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Sent:
Wednesday, July 29, 2015 4:43 PM
Subject:
[wanabidii] TULIOMWITA LOWASSA FISADI TUMUOMBE RADHI
Nimemsikiliza Edward Lowassa kwenye you tube
tuliyowekewa humu jukwaani akiulizwa maswali na wanahabari
kuhusu kashfa ya Richmond iliyotokea alipokuwa Waziri Mkuu
miaka minane iliyopita. Kulingana na majibu aliyoyatoa
hata mimi kama mwanahabari niliwahi
kumwita fisadi kwa sababu ya kashfa hiyo. Lakini
kulingana na maelezo aliyoyatoa ninakiri nilifanya dhambi
maana kumsingizia mtu uongo ni dhambi na binafsi baada ya
kusikia upande wake mimi kwa upande wangu namuomba radhi.
Kumbe kinara wa kashfa ya Richmond alikuwa bosi wake.
Lo! Sasa inaingia akilini ni kwa nini TOR za Mwakyembe
hakikumuweka Lowassa kama sample ya kuhojiwa kashfa ya
Richmond ilipotokea. Lakini kwa unyenyekevu Lowassa
alijiuzulu kuinusuru serikali nzima isianguke.
Mungu mwema miaka minane baadaye ukweli kamili wa
Richmond unajulikana. Kama ulichokisema ni kweli Lowassa,
Mungu atakupigania kwa sababu ni wewe na Mzee Mwinyi
peke yenu mna rekodi ya kujiuzulu kuonyesha uwajibikaji
kutokana na nafasi zenu na siyo kosa
mlilolitenda ninyi wenyewe. Viongozi wengine mpaka
umma upige kelele sana ndipo wajibaraguze kujiuzulu mfano
kashfa ya escrow 2014. Sasa ninaelewa ni kwa nini baadhi ya
watu wana hofu baada ya LOwassa kukubaliwa na UKAWA
kuwa mgombea Urais.
Namshukuru sana aliyetuwekea hii you-tube huku jukwaani
maana baadhi yetu ambao hatuko site tungeweza kuendelea
kufanya uchambuzi wetu kwa kutumia habari nusu nusu
tulizopewa miaka iliyopita kuhusu kashfa ya Richmond.
Ananilea Nkya
E-mail:ananilea_nkya@yahoo.com
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