Monday 30 July 2012

Re: [wanabidii] Kiswahili Sanifu

Ndugu Wapenzi wa Kiswahili,
Kwanza ningependa kuwashukuru sana kwa michango ya maoni na elimu mnayoitoa katika makala haya. Pili, kwangu mimi ningesema kuwa neno Kufa halitumiwi kwa sababu alizotoa Selemani pale chini na kwasababu za kisarufi. Mwanzo, neno Kufa ni Jina litokanalo na kitenzi fa na kwa sababu litenzi hiki hakiwezi kusimama pekeyake, kiambishi awali(prefix)"ku-" hutiwa mwanzoni au kiambishi riki hutiwa mwishoni (sufix) ili kutoa maana ya kuiaga dunia. Kuna maneno mengine mengi ya Kiswahili ambayo hayawezi kutoa maana yakiwa tenge kwa mfano la ,ja nywa, nya ,n.k. ku huongezwa.
Asanteni
Paulo
From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Kiswahili Sanifu

I really want to thank you Tanzanians for these lessons in Swahili. I've always thought that I know everything in Swahili until I talk to a Tanzanian. I think what we speak in Mombasa is a KiMvita which is heavily diluted with Arab words.

Courage,
Oduor Maurice



2012/7/30 Telesphor Magobe <tmagobe@gmail.com>
Thanks guys for a good lesson.

On 7/30/12, weston mbuba <matutetz@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Selemani,
> Ukitumia "amefariki" lazima uongezee na "dunia", yaani amefaiki dunia.
> Fariki inatokana na faraka, yaani tengana au achana. Kwa hiyo ni ametengana
> na dunia au ameachana na dunia.
>
> --- On Mon, 7/30/12, selemani swalehe <semkiwas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: selemani swalehe <semkiwas@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Kiswahili Sanifu
> To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, July 30, 2012, 5:10 AM
>
>
>
>
> Telesphor, Kuna maneno maalum ya kuonyesha kuwa binadamu ana thamani zaidi
> ya viumbe wengine hivyo kiungwana binadamu hufariki japo ndio kufa kwenyewe
> lakini tunasema X amefariki sio X amekufa.
> Tunaweza kusema ng'ombe amekufa au mbwa au mbuzi na kadhalika
> Na wala hatuwezi kusema ng'ombe amefariki.
>
> 2012/7/28 Telesphor Magobe <tmagobe@gmail.com>
>
> Ndugu wanabidii, hata mimi naomba msaada kwa hili. Someone is dead and
> you are the one supposed to inform relatives and friends. What will
> you say! X amekufa au amefariki?
>
> On 7/28/12, selemani swalehe <semkiwas@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Kwangu mimi kukana mashtaka ni kukataa /kutokubali mashtaka unayoshtakiwa
>> kwayo.
>> Na kukanusha ni kufafanua kwa maelezo ni jinsi gani huhusiki na hayo
>> mashtaka
>>
>>
>> 2012/7/28 Fadhy Mtanga <fadhy613@yahoo.com>
>>
>>> Ahsanteni sana maana nimejifunza jambo kubwa leo katika lugha.
>>>
>>> lilian.ruga@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>> >Matinyi neno Kubaka nalo je?
>>> >Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on the Tigo Tanzania Network
>>> >
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: Mobhare Matinyi <matinyi@hotmail.com>
>>> >Sender: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>>> >Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 12:02:20
>>>  >To: <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>>> >Reply-To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>>> >Subject: RE: [wanabidii] Kiswahili Sanifu
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Odour,
>>> >
>>> >Kwa mujibu wa Kamusi ya Kiswahili-Kiingereza ya TUKI, Toleo la Kwanza,
>>> 2001: (-kana kutoka kukana; -kanusha kutoka kukanusha)
>>> >-kana = deny, disown, renounce, decline, contradict, disclaim, negate
>>> (Uk. 127).
>>> >-kanusha = refute, deny, disprove, retract, negate (Uk. 128).
>>> >
>>> >Naomba tuchukue maneno mawili ambayo yamo kote kote, yaani deny na
>>> negate, kisha tuangalie kwenye:
>>> >Kamusi ya TUKI ya Kiingereza-Kiswahili, Toleo la Tatu, 2006, Uk. 222 &
>>> >Deny = -kana, -kanusha (Uk. 222).
>>> >Negate = -kana, -kanusha (Uk. 593).
>>> >
>>> >Nyongeza ya kisarufi na siyo ya kimsamiati/kiistilahi:
>>> >Kitenzi "kana" ni cha kawaida (regular verb) wakati kitenzi "kanusha"
>>> > ni
>>> kitenzi sababishi (causative verb).
>>> >Mfano wa kitenzi wa vitenzi hivi ni kama hivi:
>>> >kula = kulisha
>>> >kupita = kupitisha
>>> >kucheka = kuchekesha
>>> >kuweza = kuwezesha
>>> >kujaa = kujaza
>>> >kutembea = kutembeza
>>> >kurudi = kurudisha
>>> >kuamka = kuamsha
>>> >
>>> >Naomba umalizie majibu ya maswali yaliyobaki wewe mwenyewe kama zoezi
>>> > la
>>> nyumbani kwa sababu u mtaalamu pia.
>>> >
>>> >Matinyi.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 03:03:29 -0700
>>> >From: pauliyai@yahoo.com
>>> >Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Kiswahili Sanifu
>>> >To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Oduor na wengine,
>>> >Kwangu mimi kukana mashtaka ni kutokubali kuwa uliyafanya mambo
>>> uliyoshitakiwa kwayo na kukanuasha mashtaka ni kupinga mashtaka kwa
>>> niaba
>>> ya mtendaji au wengine kuwa mashtaka hayo si kweli. Katika kukana
>>> mashtaka,
>>> unakubali kuwa sheria ilivunjwa lakini si wewe uliyetenda uhalifu huo.
>>> Katika kukanusha mashtaka, unapinga kuwa hakukuwa na uvunjaji wa sheria
>>> au
>>> uhalifu.
>>> >shukrani.
>>> >Paulo
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>  >From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
>>> >To: wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>>> >Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 4:13 PM
>>> >Subject: [wanabidii] Kiswahili Sanifu
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Enyi wataalamu wa Kiswahili. Ni ipi iliyosanifu?
>>> >
>>> >Kukana mashtaka;      ama
>>> >
>>> >Kukanusha mashtaka   ???????
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Courage,
>>> >Oduor Maurice
>>> >
>>> >
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