Saturday, 7 July 2012

Re: [wanabidii] Re: 21% ya ajira za muungano kwenda visiwani

Gody, ukiuliza hata wazee wetu walikuwepo wakati ule hawakujua ni kwa nini tuliungana. Muungano ni jambo jema sana tena sana. Lakini muungano wetu umetusaidia nini? Hasa pale unapoona upande mmoja unalalamika kunyonywa. Kinachonyonywa ni kepi? Ajira tuwape sie. Maji, umeme, ulinzi...... fursa za biashara...... Kwa upande wa Tanganyika tuseme tu ukweli ulio wazi, hawa ni ndugu zetu, basi tubanane tu hivyo hivyo. Sasa wale waarabu waliokuwa wamefanya koloni lao, na pengine pale pamekuwa kama base nzuri ya kutimiza matakwa yao pengine ya kigaidi. Wamatumbi wenzangu tunapelekwa kuanza kupiga kelele eti tunanyonywa, hatutaki muuutunataka bendera yetu, wimbo wa tanchi yetu. Wao kimya...... wanajua tu once  Tanganyika imeondoka basi watawapa wazee wetu mbao za kutosha kuchezea bao na kahawa chungu na hela ya mboga afu politically free but economically, socially....... totally dependent. Nikiangalia kwa mtizamo huo... naona huruma sana. Tunahitaji kukomaa na ndugu zetu wa damumbo haya yasitokee tena..  ndugu zetu o wanatakiwa wawe na utambuzi na kuwa responsible. Sio kwamba hawawezi bila sisi. Wnaweza sana tu ila hatari iliyopo ni kumezwa na ule ukoloni wa aina yake. Ingekuwa sio kitu cha kusahau namna tulivyopelekeshwa na wale waomani wakati wa utumwa. Hawakuwa na huruma hata kidogo. Historia yote imebaki pale na wanajua jinsi babu zetu walivyoteseka. Wanajua hata sasa jinsi akina mama wanavyouwawa huko arabuni kwa makosa ya ajabu ajabu ati sh.. Siku si nyingi tutalia. Ila kama ni kutoka moyoni watu hawapendi kuungana, basi iwepo referandam ili wapige kura wao wenyewe. Wakisema hawataki tuttwazimisha kwa nini? Taiwan na china... Hong Cong ..... na sasa Tibet wanalilia kujitenga so what. Isije kuonekana sisi tumewafanya wenzetu kuwa koloni. Nilisikia watu fulani waliadika barua umoja wa mataifa kuomba uhuru wa zanzibar. Nikashangaa, kwani sio huru? kwani sio nchi moja? ndo maana nimetamani rais ajaye wa zanzibar awe ni wa asili ya bara kabisa kama alivyokuwa mwinyi wa asili ya zanzibar. Na mimi nikiishi pale miaka mitaku kutoka sasa, nafikiri 2015 nitaweza kuchukua fomu ya kgombea urais. afu kura nipigiwe na wote. Si nitashinda? Ha ha ha !
Anyway mambo mengine hayako wazi sana. Ila kweli muungano ni jambo jema. Ndiyo maana east Africa tunataka kuungana ikiwezekana tuwe na prezida mmoja. na zanzibar iwe na presida wake???? hapo sijui itakuwaje tena. kama nakosea unisahihishe ndumambo mengine hayaeleweki sana na vion uhawakuyaweka wazi zaidi ya uyasoma tu kwenye civics.

2012/7/7 Godfrey Ngupula <ngupula@yahoo.co.uk>


Thanks bwana Bahati kwa ufafanuzi huo..so it means nasi bara tunahiji sheria kama hiyo....infact,mie nawasii sana watz bara tukubali kukaa mezani na kureview huu muungano wetu.i am sure tusipoopopa tutajijua mizigo mingi tuliyoibeba for the past 50 years. Vipo visiwa vingi duniani na hata katika bahari ya hindi vyenye full autonomy lakin ni masikini wa kutupwa.Zanzibar rmekuwa chini ya mwarabu kwa miaka mingi,lakini hakuna kilichofanyika zaidi za kugeuza watu weusi kuwa chotara wa kiarabu.Watapata nini kama tukiwaacha wajitawale incase wakisisitiza?Kwanza kwa asilimia 100 utabiri wa Nyerere utatitimia.Na kuhusu tishio la ugaidi,as long as tunajua tayari,that is not a problem we can indavance handle that situation.Ngupula


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On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 17:12 EEST Tony PT wrote:

>Bahati,
>
>Sheria ya uchaguzi ya Zanzibar inataka uwe mkazi na kuishi huko mfululizo kwa miaka 3. Hata kuwa mpiga kura nayo sifa hiyohiyo inatumika siku hizi! Bado una la kusema tena braza?
>Sent from my BlackBerry® Porsche-9981 smartphone Thru Tigo Network, Tanzania.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: richard bahati <ribahati@gmail.com>
>Sender: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 01:37:20
>To: <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>Reply-To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Re: 21% ya ajira za muungano kwenda visiwani
>
>Kaka Tony kuna makatazo mengine yapo tu vichwani mwetu. Ipo siku
>tutaulizwa, ni lini ulikuja ukaniomba mkate nikakupa ng'e? au ni lini
>uliniomba samaki nikakupa jiwe? (nimebadili kidogo usije sema nimekopy
>kwenye bible bwana)
>
>2012/7/7 Tony PT <tony_uk45@yahoo.co.uk>
>
>> **
>> Richard,
>>
>> Kwanini utake kubadili matokeo ya the Murphy's law ya fizikia? Ukikata
>> slaisi ya kwanza au mwanzo ya mkate lazima itaangukia kulia kama wewe
>> unatumia mkono wa kulia. Sasa unajaribu kuomba kilicho na katazo
>> linaloeleweka? Unakuwa uchokozi.
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® Porsche-9981 smartphone Thru Tigo Network,
>> Tanzania.
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: * richard bahati <ribahati@gmail.com>
>> *Sender: * wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>> *Date: *Sat, 7 Jul 2012 00:53:09 -1200
>> *To: *<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>> *ReplyTo: * wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [wanabidii] Re: 21% ya ajira za muungano kwenda visiwani
>>
>> Hivi kuna Mtanganyika aliyewahi kuomba kazi Zanzibar akanyimwa? Hivi kuna
>> Mtanganyika ailiyewahi kujaribu kuchukua fomu ya Kugombea Urais kule
>> Zanzibar akanyimwa? Wazanzibar wamechukua fomu na wameshika nafasi nyeti za
>> uongozi huku Tanganyika. Sasa sisi tunaongea tuuuuuu! Tujaribu kuomba kazi,
>> kuomba nafasi za uongozi..... Si nchi moja jamani? Kuna Mtanganyika ameenda
>> kufungua shule au zahanati, au duka kule pemba akafukuzwa? Twende na sisi
>> tutafute hivo fursa maana zipo! Tusilalamike tu wakati wenyewe ajira
>> hatuna, ... wenzetu wamechangamkia nyanja zote kuanzia elimu, siasa, maduka
>> .... kwa mpemba kwa mpemba kariakoo hadi tegeta hadi mbagala hadi bagamoyo
>> hadi morogoro , ifakara, mahenge, dodoma, mwanza, shinyanga, kondoa,
>> mtwara, muzoma,  kagera...... kote. Bungeni ...........
>> Wizarani.....................
>> Tuzoee kusikia pia "nafanya kazi pale kiembe madafu......., nasoma
>> sekondary ya .. pemba.... niko kwenye kikaao za la wawakilishi, niko wizara
>> ya fedhzibar, narudi dar weekend kusalimia ndugu.  USILALAMIKE. Chukua fomu
>> ya urais gombea. nafasi za kazi zikitangazwa tuma maombi na ninaamini
>> utapata. USILALAMIKE TU. FURSA ZIPO SAWA KWA WOTE
>>
>> 2012/7/5 Pius Makomelelo <makomelelopius@yahoo.co.uk>
>>
>> dawa nzuri ni kuuondoa uzanzibari kama tulivyoupoteza utanganyika!!
>>
>>   *From:* Godfrey Ngupula <ngupula@yahoo.co.uk>
>> *To:* "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, 6 July 2012, 12:33
>> *Subject:* Re: [wanabidii] Re: 21% ya ajira za muungano kwenda visiwani
>>
>>   Hayo mengine yote uliyouliza yako hivyohivyo.Lakini,kwa kadri
>> nilivyoisikia taarifa ile inaonekama kana kwamba serikali itahakikisha kuwa
>> however mtu kumeet  vigezo vingine,lakini eneo la mtu anakotoka kwa maana
>> ya mzanzibar au...litazingatiwa
>>
>>   *From:* Arbo <akihaule@gmail.com>
>> *To:* wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, 6 July 2012, 11:22
>> *Subject:* [wanabidii] Re: 21% ya ajira za muungano kwenda visiwani
>>
>> Sijaelewa sawa sawa , maana ya hii asilimia 21.   Je kwa sasa hivi , kuna
>> kipengele chochote kinachowazuia Wazanzibar kushindania nafasi za ajira
>> katika serikali ya Muungano?  Kama hakuna ,kuna sababu ya hili kuwekwa?  Je
>> sera ya ajira inasemaje katika kupata kigezo cha kumuajili mtu katika
>> utumishi wa Umma , uwezo wake au katoka sehemu ipi ya Jamhuri ya Muungano?
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 4, 2012 8:41:48 PM UTC+1, Godfrey Ngupula wrote:
>>
>>
>> Nimesikia kwenye taarifa ya habari ya saa 2.00 usiku radio one kuwa 21%
>> ya ajira zote za serikali ya muungano kupewa wanzanzibar.Nikajiuliza
>> maswali kiasi huku nikitafakari.Kama 100% ya ajira zote za serikali ya
>> visiwani ni ya wanzanzibari and ontop of that,wamehakikishiwe ajira
>> nyingine za burebure huku bara.Mnaonaje.imekaa vizuri hiyo? Ngupula
>>
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