Sunday, 27 April 2014

Re: [wanabidii] The Bible Says To Call No Man Your Father: Why Do Catholics Call Priests Father?

For me everything depends on context and what the author intended for his or her addressees. The use of pictures doesn't worry me at all. It may not have meaning to me, but not to every person. We once were asked to each of us choose a symbol of himself. It was amazing! I chose a piece of cactus plant - sharp edges wrepresented my negative elements in me and a smooth part my positive attributes. Another person chose a piece of stone, another drew a picture on a piece of paper etc and all these had a message to each of us. By the way, if doesn't disturbs your prayer, let it go.

On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 7:01 AM, rashid martin <rashidtz@hotmail.com> wrote:
usipate shida kaka mkuu, maana siku hizi ukiangalia Yesu anasema mengine na waumini wanasema mengime, tena hata picha inayotumika ni ya Brian Deacon,eti ndo Yesu, hata kwa muslims, mmafundisho yapo huku na waumini wapo kule


Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2014 13:53:59 -0700
From: tracykwetu@gmail.com
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Subject: [wanabidii] The Bible Says To Call No Man Your Father: Why Do Catholics Call Priests Father?


Matthew 23:9, "And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in Heaven." Notice, however, that this makes no distinction between spiritual fathers, which is what our priests are to us, and biological fathers. In other words, if you interpret this passage to say, absolutely, that no man is to be called father, you cannot distinguish between calling a priest, father, and calling the man who is married to your mother, father.
But, is that actually what this passage is saying? Or is Jesus warning us against trying to usurp the fatherhood of God? Which, in many ways, is what the Pharisees and Scribes were doing. They wanted all attention focused on them...they were leaving God, the Father, out of the equation. Which is why Jesus goes on to call them hypocrites, liars, and whitewashed tombs.
 
Jesus uses hyperbole to post a warning that no one should pridefully desire honorific titles.  His words are not meant leterally.  The New Testament writers elsehwere use 'father' for natural fathers (Heb 12:7-11) and spiritual fathers in the Church (1 Cor 4:15; Philem10).  The spiritual fatherhood of New Covenant priests is an extension of its application to Old Covenant priests (Judg 17:1018:19). 
 
If you interpret this passage from Matthew 23 as an absolute ban against calling anyone your spiritual father, then there are some problems for you in the rest of Scripture. For example, Jesus, in the story of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16, has the rich man referring to Abraham as "father" several times. Paul, in Romans chapter 4, refers to Abraham as the "father" of the uncircumcised, the Gentiles. That's referring to spiritual fatherhood, not biological fatherhood.
 
In Acts 7:1-2, the first Christian martyr, Stephen, referred to the Jewish authorities and elders who were about to stone him as brothers and "fathers," as does Paul in Acts, chapter 22. Look at what St.Paul says in 1 Corinthians 4:15; "For though you have countless guides in Christ, you do not have many fathers.  For I became your father in Christ Jesus through the Gospel."  This is referring to spiritual fatherhood. So, if you interpret Matthew 23 as saying we cannot call anyone our spiritual father, then you have a problem with Jesus, Paul, Stephen, and the Holy Spirit...they must have all gotten it wrong.
 
It is okay to call priests "father", just as it was okay for Jesus and Paul to call Abraham "father" and for Stephen and Paul to call the Jewish elders "father." As long as we remember that our true Father is God the Father and that all aspects of fatherhood, biological and spiritual, are derived from Him. And as long as we do not allow anyone else to usurp that role in any way, shape, or form, as the Pharisees and Scribes were prone to do.

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