It only comes to whether you read the words and understand the meaning or you read the words and understand words. Mind you, every biblical narrative has a lesson behind the story. So, don't get lost with the words, but understand the meaning.
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Ireneus Kakuru Mushongi <ireneuskakurumushongi@gmail.com> wrote:
Siku moja mbinguni ni kama miaka elfu. .
So basing on this belief kwa miaka 2000 tu iliyopita kidunia, you are only talking of only 2 days and not even half of one week.
So wale wanaoongea habari za miaka hii 2000 ya kidunia hawaielewi biblia so they wrong people on wrong calls ht km ni watumishi wa Vatican haijalishi!
Lakini pia huo sio msimamo wa kanisa; ni msimamo binafsi.
Ukihesabu vizuri hii ni km jana tu kiimani kwa sisi wakristo!
On 30 Apr 2014 12:23, "Kamala J Lutatinisibwa" <jlkamala@gmail.com> wrote:--Kilasara,
I have tried my best to continue believing in Christianity bu in vain,
these are impossible stories, why should Jesus know about judgement
and fail to know the date? why should his father hide him of this date
while revealing everything else to him?
I dont believe and am not in a waiting queue for his coming
On 30/04/2014, Kilasara Fratern <kilasara.fratern@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mchunga kondoo anapokuwa na mashaka hii ni hatari tupu!
>
> Ila ukweli ndio huo, inambidi kila mmoja wetu ajitafakari kwa kina na
> jinsi tulivyokuwa tunazichukulia taasisi zetu za juu za kidini kuwa,
> tulishajiaminisha kwazo kuwa zenyewe ndizo zinazojua "kila kitu"; na tena
> tumeenda hata kufanya makosa ya kifikra kuwa, "ukweli" nao unapatikana
> kwenye taasisi zetu za juu za kidini, huku, tukisahau 'the historical
> evolution of these institutions. It is thus evident that, 'the real truth,
> does not resides nor presides in these institutions; and what we perceive
> as truth, is not but a historical facts of their own evolution, which again
> has been perpetuated and termed 'sacred.' Indeed, this is a misplace truth.
>
> Thus, I am not shocked with the statement from this authority: "We just
> feel Jesus is not coming back by the looks of it." he said. "It's been ages
> like. He's probably flat out doing other really good things for people
> somewhere else."
>
> I am afraid, this statement reflect a myopic understanding of the 'LIVING
> JESUS CHRIST. This statement still refers to the 'Material Jesus Christ',
> which is not the fact being upheld in the Christian Faith! We have padres
> in this forum, this statement is nothing else but fallacious, and it ought
> to be condemned by Philosophers and Theologians alike from all fronts.
>
> For centuries this is what we have been believing that there is yet another
> coming of Jesus, then, the righteous ones, shall be judged to inherit
> eternal life, whereas the sinful ones shall be condemned to eternal
> damnation. This is not only a statement of faith, but also a fact, that
> Jesus will surely come to judge humanity; unfortunately, not even Jesus
> knows when this shall happen except the FATHER, the Maker of Heaven and
> Earth. Which authority can go against this???
>
>
>
> Yes, although such statement comes from the authority we highly respect,
> but, it is too erroneous to simply take it the way it is. It appears to
> have ensues from a personal stand, and in no way should it reflect the
> stand of the institution!
>
> So friends, where is THE TRUTH?
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Emmanuel Muganda
> <emuganda@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hata Yesu mwenyewe alisema ni Mungu peke yake anayejua lini Yesu
>> atarudi.
>> Sidhani Vatican inaweza kutoa kauli kama hiyo.
>> em
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 5:39 AM, 'Lutgard Kokulinda Kagaruki <
>> lutgardk@yahoo.com>' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Fakhi,
>>>
>>> Unahangaika nini na dini za wenzio??
>>>
>>> Kuna mengi sana ya kutujuza kuhusu hali ya sasa ya uislamu duniani,
>>> mbona
>>> hutwambii hayo? Mengine najua tungeamua kuyaweka hapa, pamoja na ukweli
>>> wake, baadhi yenu mgeamka kwa mapanga na majambia!! LKK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:24 AM, Nicomedes Kajungu <
>>> nicomedes76@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Utani huu lakini wenye nia mbaya.
>>> On Apr 24, 2014 11:21 AM, "Magiri paul" <kiganyi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Huu ni utani au?
>>> Kwahiyo Yesu alitoa ahadi akiwa kalewa? Kwamba ndio maana imekuwa ngumu
>>> kuitimiza?
>>> Magiri.
>>> Dau dogo huambaa mwambao, kubwa huenda kwenye kilindi.
>>> On Apr 24, 2014 11:15 AM, "Fakhi Karume" <fkarume@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A SPOKESPERSON for the Vatican has officially announced today that the
>>> second coming of Jesus, the only son of the God, may not happen now
>>> after
>>> all, but urged followers to still continue with their faith, regardless
>>> of
>>> the news.
>>> Cardinal Giorgio Salvadore told WWN that this years 1,981st anniversary
>>> is to be the Vatican's last in regards to waiting for the Lord to return
>>> to
>>> Earth.
>>> "We just feel Jesus is not coming back by the looks of it." he said.
>>> "It's been ages like. He's probably flat out doing other really good
>>> things
>>> for people somewhere else."
>>> Nearly two thousand years ago, Jesus promised his disciples that he
>>> would
>>> come again in chapter John 14:1-3 of the bible: "There are many homes up
>>> where my Father lives, and I am going to prepare them for your coming.
>>> When
>>> everything is ready, then I will come and get you, so that you can
>>> always
>>> be with Me where I am. If this weren't so, I would tell you plainly"
>>> The Vatican defended Jesus' broken promise, claiming "he was probably
>>> drinking wine" at the time when he made the comments.
>>> "Having the ability to turn water into wine had its ups and its downs."
>>> added Cardinal Salvadore. "We all make promises we can't keep when we're
>>> drunk. Jesus was no different."
>>> The church said it will now focus attentions on rebuilding its
>>> reputation
>>> around the world, but will keep an optimistic mind for the savior's
>>> second
>>> coming.
>>>
>>> http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2014/04/18/jesus-not-coming-back-by-the-looks-of-it-admits-vatican/
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