Re: [wanabidii] Siungi Mkono Adhabu ya Kifo

Ngupula,

 

Umenifurahisha kwa hoja zako! Hiyo ndiyo inaitwa nguvu ya hoja. Ila bado hujanijibu hoja zangu mbili. Hawo unaowataja nani kauawa kwa upanga?  Mfano wa Daudi aliyeua wengi mpaka askari wake. Mungu ndiye anayejua nani atakufa kwa upanga. Mfano Amini aliua sana ila kafa kifo cha asili. Walioua na kuuawa ni kama Sadam, Gadafi, Osama, Hilter etc.

On Tuesday, 29 April 2014, 10:34, 'Ngupula GW' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Dhambi ni kutenda na kukubaliana na wanaotenda na kukubaliana na wanaotenda . Refer kifo cha stefano...ngoja nikupe list nyingine solomon,samson,joshua....hukumu ni kwa haki na haki ya hukumu ni kwa watoto wa mungu..kuna wakristo wengine wanadhani hata kuua mende ni dhambi.....ngupula

misangocharles via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Musa aliua kwa kutetea haki na paulo aliua kwa kumtetea Mungu. .binafsi sioni haja ya kuthamin maisha ya mtu na mtu huyo hawez thamin maisha ya wengine...auaye kwa upanga atauawa kwa upanga...amwagaye damu naye damu yake itamwagwa. Eliya ,musa,samweli,daud wote waliua...wewe unamjua mungu kuliko waooooo....ngupula

'Nico Eatlawe' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Ngupula usitetee hoja yako kwa kusingizia biblia na tena kimakosa. Paulo alimuua nani?

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From: "'Ngupula GW' via Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>

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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 11:26:38 +0300

To: 'Nico Eatlawe' via Wanabidii<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>

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Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Siungi Mkono Adhabu ya Kifo

Kumhukumu mtu kifo ni ukatili na unyama usio na kifani bila kujali mtu kafanya nini. Hata Mungu amewaacha watenda maovu wanaishi hadi wanakufa wazee akijua kuwa kila mtu anastahili fursa ya kubadilika. Ila sisi tunapenda kuua kwa sababu za chuki na kama namna ya kumaliza shida haraka. Ila hakuna suluhu inayopatikana kwa hukumu ya kifo. Mimi napinga hukumu ya kifo kwa sababu mbili:

 

Kwanza haimpi mtu fursa ya kujutia makosa yake na hata kubadilika. Kama Mkristo ninakumbuka wauaji ambao Mungu hakuwaua. Mfano Musa aliua hata akatoroka na kukaa kama mkimbizi miaka 40. Baada ya hapo akaitwa kuwa Mpigania uhuru wa taifa la Israeli kule Misri. Wa pili ni Sauli au Paulo. Paulo alikuwa serial killer ila Mungu alimbadilisha na kuwa mtume mkubwa sana hata kuandika zaidi ya nusu ya Agano Jipya. Hawa wote walikuwa wauaji lakini walikuwa na uwezo wa kuwa watumishi wakubwa wa Mungu. Kwa hiyo naamini wauaji au wahaini au wahalifu wote wanaweza kuwa watu wazuri na wa kufaa kwenye jamaii kama watapewa fursa ya pili.

 

Pili siungi mkono kwa vile wengine wanaoua wenzao wanapenda kufa zaidi kuliko kuishi. Kwa hiyo kumwua ni kumtimizia maono yake. Mfano ni watu wanaofanya ugaidi hata kujitoa mhanga wakiamini kuna thawabu baada ya kufia wanachokiamini. Kwa hiyo kwanini umsaidie mtu kutimiza nadhiri ya itikadi yake? Atajifunza na kubadilika lini ukimwua?

 

Kwa hiyo mimi nafikiri bora ni adhabu kali na kifungo cha maisha. Namkumbuka dikteta jenerali manuel Noriega  wa Panama aliyenagushwa na Wamarekani na kuongoka gerezani. Hwajamwua ila walimwachia Wafaransa waliomfunga na kumwachia na hatimaye kurudishwa kwao. Kwa hiyo tuwape watu nafasi ya pili. Tusilipe ubaya kwa ubaya bali ubaya kwa wema!

On Monday, 28 April 2014, 22:58, "'lesian mollel <aramakurias@yahoo.com>' via Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:

daaah, hii si haki kabisa.
Cjui hawa wanaoamua kesi kama hizi kama wanaangalia uzito wa kesi,600 si mchezo na kesi ya kisiasa unahukumu kifo? hz nchi zinaongoz --
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