Re: [wanabidii] "Jesus Not Coming Back By The Looks Of It" Admits Vatican

Mungu ni mmoja lkn ana nafsi tatu ..kila nafsi ina mamlaka kwa nafasi yake...aliposema ni kaz ya baba kujua ...alimaanisha it was not the right time for him to reveal that ...believing jesus is optional ..in whatever decision yu make,you dont change a thing, but it has some impacts at your fate....ngupula

Telesphor Magobe <tmagobe@gmail.com> wrote:

It only comes to whether you read the words and understand the meaning or you read the words and understand words. Mind you, every biblical narrative has a lesson behind the story. So, don't get lost with the words, but understand the meaning.

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Ireneus Kakuru Mushongi <ireneuskakurumushongi@gmail.com> wrote:

Siku moja mbinguni ni kama miaka elfu. .
So basing on this belief kwa miaka 2000 tu iliyopita kidunia, you are only talking of only 2 days and not even half of one week.
So wale wanaoongea habari za miaka hii 2000 ya kidunia hawaielewi biblia so they wrong people on wrong calls ht km ni watumishi wa Vatican haijalishi!
Lakini pia huo sio msimamo wa kanisa; ni msimamo binafsi.
Ukihesabu vizuri hii ni km jana tu kiimani kwa sisi wakristo!

On 30 Apr 2014 12:23, "Kamala J Lutatinisibwa" <jlkamala@gmail.com> wrote:

Kilasara,

I have tried my best to continue believing in Christianity bu in vain,
these are impossible stories, why should Jesus know about judgement
and fail to know the date? why should his father hide him of this date
while revealing everything else to him?

I dont believe and am not in a waiting queue for his coming

On 30/04/2014, Kilasara Fratern <kilasara.fratern@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mchunga kondoo anapokuwa na mashaka hii ni hatari tupu!
>
>  Ila ukweli ndio huo, inambidi kila mmoja wetu ajitafakari kwa kina na
> jinsi tulivyokuwa tunazichukulia taasisi zetu za juu za kidini kuwa,
> tulishajiaminisha kwazo kuwa zenyewe ndizo zinazojua "kila kitu"; na tena
> tumeenda hata kufanya makosa ya kifikra kuwa, "ukweli" nao unapatikana
> kwenye taasisi zetu za juu za kidini, huku, tukisahau 'the historical
> evolution of these institutions. It is thus evident that, 'the real truth,
> does not resides nor presides in these institutions; and what we perceive
> as truth, is not but a historical facts of their own evolution, which again
> has been perpetuated and termed 'sacred.' Indeed, this is a misplace truth.
>
> Thus, I am not shocked with the statement from this authority: "We just
> feel Jesus is not coming back by the looks of it." he said. "It's been ages
> like. He's probably flat out doing other really good things for people
> somewhere else."
>
> I am afraid, this statement reflect a myopic understanding of the 'LIVING
> JESUS CHRIST. This statement still refers to the 'Material Jesus Christ',
> which is not the fact being upheld in the Christian Faith! We have padres
> in this forum, this statement is nothing else but fallacious, and it ought
> to be condemned by Philosophers and Theologians alike from all fronts.
>
> For centuries this is what we have been believing that there is yet another
> coming of Jesus, then, the righteous ones, shall be judged to inherit
> eternal life, whereas the sinful ones shall be condemned to eternal
> damnation. This is not only a statement of faith, but also a fact, that
> Jesus will surely come to judge humanity; unfortunately, not even Jesus
> knows when this shall happen except the FATHER, the Maker of Heaven and
> Earth. Which authority can go against this???
>
>
>
> Yes, although such statement comes from the authority we highly respect,
> but, it is too erroneous to simply take it the way it is. It appears to
> have ensues from a personal stand, and in no way should it reflect the
> stand of the institution!
>
> So friends, where is THE TRUTH?
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Emmanuel Muganda
> <emuganda@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hata Yesu mwenyewe alisema ni Mungu peke yake anayejua lini  Yesu
>> atarudi.
>> Sidhani Vatican inaweza kutoa kauli kama hiyo.
>> em
>>
>>
>> On Thu,

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