Khaguli
I meant Raila. Remember the snap election Muthama predicted after Uhuru is detained in February? Wewe na Muthama munavuta, sigara kubwa sana.
On Nov 28, 2013 7:53 PM, "khaguli maurice" <mkhaguli@yahoo.com> wrote:
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KM,
You are a classic poor liar!!!!! Which majority Kenyans want Uhuru to lead? This is a super scheme politically to lock out the rest of Kenya from real government/inclusive politics!!!! Don't silly again hapa. Say something better or go to hell with your Uhuru the killer boy
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On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 3:57 PM PST Kuria-Mwangi wrote:
>Okil
>I didnt see it that way but the full import of ICC will be seen next year.
>Those Judges with exception with our Nigerian brother (Judge) wants to give
>these fellows a hard time and will exploit any loophole to give them a hard
>time. I show similar argument fronted by others even as Githumu and Madam
>put a brave face.
>
>The good thing is that I think politically, many Nations including USA and
>Britain do not want a confrontation and a scenario where Uhuru may be
>forced to decide between listening to majority of Kenyans who wants him run
>the country with as little interference as possible and following the
>demands put by ICC where he would have to be out of the country for weeks.
>I dont see the latter happening and any warrants issued would see serious
>economic and political implications faced by Kenya and investors from those
>countries. Any gain in ICC is also due to the economic and geopolitical
>interests of those Western and American powers. Some talk as if we are the
>only ones who need them.
>
>
>On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Nyamodi Ochieng Nyamogo <
>okil@nyamogoadvocates.com> wrote:
>
>> KM et al,
>> I am, myself, still worried! I fear the Kenya delegation,
>> quite contrary to what Amb. Amina Mohammed and Prof. Githu Muigai
>> would rather have us believe, has left the Assembly of State Parties
>> at The Hague with "mere bones"!!!
>> These so called "changes/amendments" seem to simply have
>> thrown Uhuru/Ruto "under the bus" and still left them at the mercy of
>> the judges and prosecutor! I say this, because if the Rome Statute
>> says anything different, then it is still open for the prosecutor to
>> oppose an application for excusal and a strict Trial Chamber may just
>> uphold the objection!!!
>> In fact, I dare even argue, apart from the many words
>> added, the so called "changes/amendments" have altered NOTHING of
>> substance in the "rules of procedure" as they stood hitherto!!!
>> Nyamodi Ochieng-Nyamogo.
>>
>> On 11/28/13, margaret gichuki <wams2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Haaaaa...Khaguli& Co must be going NUTS! It'll take wiffeys and hubbys
>> alot
>> > of work to get them going.lol
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Ndugu Khaguli:
>> > I am sorry to hear this. Pole sana kakangu
>> >
>> > Uhuru, Ruto can skip trials as ICC rules amended
>> > Posted by CAPITAL
>> > REPORTER<http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/author/capital-reporter12536/>
>> > on
>> > Wednesday November 27, 2013 at 7:29pm
>> > [image: Uhuru's trial is due to commence in
>> > February/FILE]<
>> http://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/files/2013/10/UHURU-LAWYERS1.jpg>
>> >
>> > Uhuru's trial is due to commence in February/FILE
>> > inShare
>> > *THE HAGUE, Netherlands, Nov 27 – President Uhuru Kenyatta and his
>> deputy
>> > William Ruto will not be required to be physically present at the ICC
>> but
>> > can be represented by counsel after the Assembly of States Parties
>> > amended
>> > its rules.*
>> >
>> > *The amendment was part of two changes Kenya managed to push through as
>> > the 12th ASP came to a close at The Hague.*
>> >
>> > "We have achieved a fundamental change in how the ICC functions. This is
>> > a
>> > major victory for the Kenyan team. It is significant in how the ICC
>> > engages," Foreign Secretary Amina Mohamed said after the Thursday
>> plenary
>> > session.
>> >
>> > She told journalists that the Kenyan team came to The Hague with
>> > important
>> > goals "and we are glad to announce that we have nailed them both."
>> >
>> > She said securing excusal from trial at the International Criminal Court
>> > (ICC) for Kenyatta and Ruto was key for Kenya.
>> >
>> > "As you are aware, the ICC had always argued that the accused person
>> must
>> > be physically present throughout the trial. We now have a new rule that
>> > says that is in fact not the case."
>> >
>> > The new rule 134 (4) acknowledges that the President and Deputy
>> President
>> > are duly elected by the Kenyan people and have a mandate to govern even
>> > while meeting their obligations to the court.
>> >
>> > "As you know, we had a mandate from the AU pursuant to its resolution
>> > that
>> > no sitting heads of state or government, their deputies or people
>> > mandated
>> > to hold such offices may appear before the ICC or indeed any other court
>> > while they remain in office," Mohamed said.
>> >
>> > She explained that Kenya had also now given notice to the UN Secretary
>> > General on immunities of heads of state and government under Article 27.
>> >
>> > "We expect such a meeting to be convened after the 90-day notice period
>> > expires in the first quarter of next year."
>> >
>> > The decision significantly comes after the ICC overturned its earlier
>> > decision excusing Kenyatta from continuous presence at trial.
>> >
>> > The new rule means that Kenyatta's lawyers can now file fresh
>> > applications
>> > for his excusal pursuant to the amendment.
>> >
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