Monday, 12 October 2015

Re: [wanabidii] Mabadiliko tuliyokuwa tunayahitaji siyo ya udini ukanda na ukabila..ni ya kupinga ufisadi.

Mollel soma Mithali 26: 4-5 halafu uendelee kusoma maelezo yangu. lakini hakikisha umelielewa neno hilo.
Mtandao unaozungumziwa unajulikana kwa watanzania wote na madhara yake yanajulikana. Wanachama wake, waasisi wake na watumishi wake wanajulikana.
Unapoongea mikataba mibovu na uongozi mbovu utamtafuta haraka waziri mkuu wake kwa miaka kumi. Inaposemwa mahakama ya mafisadi wateja watarajiwa ni pamoja na waziri mkuu wa mkapa na waziri wa Mifugo na maji. Kunakazi zinawasubiri kuziendeleza Segerea ambako wenzao wawili wametangulia. Jiandae kumuona Chenge akiwa huko kama ambavyo unamuona mramba. naye alikuwa mbunge na haikumsaidia kutopata kazi segerea. CCM mpya (Ijayo) inaposema mafisadi ni kuanzia waliomo CCM na waliokimbilia huko. Mkapa aliowaita wapumbavu ni wale wanaoona \tanzania bado inatawaliwa. Alisema ni wapumbavu kwa sababu wanaanza kuwatumikia waliotutawala tuliowaondoa tukajitawala na sasa wanakuja na ukoloni mamboleo kupitia njia wazoona zinafaa Kwetu wanapitia misaada na vyama vinavyoweza kununuliwa kwa kukosa viongozi wenye maono na nchi nyingine wanadhamini vita kwa kuuza silaha.
Ukimalisa kusoma soma tena Mithali ile
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On Mon, 10/12/15, 'Lesian Mollel' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Mabadiliko tuliyokuwa tunayahitaji siyo ya udini ukanda na ukabila..ni ya kupinga ufisadi.
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, October 12, 2015, 1:19 AM

Wewe mzee hunaga point kabisa aisee
Nani kakwambua ccm imeondoa mtandaoa mzee usiona, ur too
myopiad dad
Hv mh chenge kaondoka mwenye kashfa tatu za nguvu si ni
mgombra wa ccm bariad au
Hv prof tibaijuka kaondoka, aliedakishwa bn 1.6 ya ecrow, au
mtanfao gani unataka ktuambia, au mkapa kaondoka na kashfa
zake kibao za nbc...leo equity bank ya kenya inatoa mikopo
nafuu kwa wafanyakaz wa tanzania nyie mnauza bank zenu,
mmelogwaaa...mzee mkapa si ndio maana akatuita malofaa,
kanunua ndege iko wapi...aaaggh cant even explain napata
jazba mizeee kama kina elisa yasivyooona uchafu wa ccm
Hv ngeleja yupo cdm au ccm,na je ni mtanfao gani ccm
imeondoa mzeee
Hv prof muhongo ,'mzembe na kasababisha kashfa ya escrow
yupo wapi si ccm' u dont see mzee elisa
Mh lowasa kakimbia huko kwakua kumejaa uchafu na kuna
mitandao ya kifisadi ilioota mizizi.......jk yeye ni msafii
kwa kua ni Rais akitoka kwa unafiki wenu mnaanza kumsema...
Kiukweli kina elisa na wenzako nahisi wanajua ukweli lakin
wanaongozwa na pepo lililowalewesha na kua wasaliti kama
lile la slaa na lipumba japo wenzao wamelipwa pesa wao
wamebakia kutoa mapovu kusapoti ujingaaaaa
Ogopa kuisaliti nchi,kusaliti mabdiliko yakikombozi kuna
siku utaulizwa ukifa
Raais lowasa anadekiwa bara bara kama obama kwa kua watu
wana imani nae na wameshagundua janja ya ccm na kina elisa
muhingooooo biva mabdiliko' mama nkya aluta continua
Lesian

'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:

>Nkya
>Mfumo wa vyama vingi si chama tawala kuondoka
madarakani. Kwa hiyo tusijesema Tanzania haina mfumo wa
vyama vingi kwa sababu wananchi wameichagua (na
wataichagua). Neno mabadiliko limekuwepo muda sasa. Lakini
mabadiliko ninayoyazungumzia sio ya neno ila ya tendo. Tendo
linalotendwa na CCM kama nilivyoeleza pale chini. 2005
Mtandao ulishindikana kung'olewa. 2015 Mtandao ukazuiliwa
licha ya shinikizo lililotokana na kuteka akili zawatu ambao
huku wakikusanyika kama marefa walianza kushangilia timu m
ojawapo. Hilo ndilo lililotia upofu CDM ikatelekez ataratibi
zake na kupewa sharti la 'Mimi mbomgea pekee'. Mabadiliko
yanakuja na ufisadi utamalizika kwasababu mafisadi
wanatengenezewa mkakati.
>--------------------------------------------
>On Mon, 10/12/15, 'ananilea nkya' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Mabadiliko tuliyokuwa
tunayahitaji siyo ya udini ukanda na ukabila..ni ya kupinga
ufisadi.
> To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, October 12, 2015, 12:03 AM
>
>  Elisa,
> Hili neno mabadiliko CCM imelisikia baada ya
> kampeni kuanza siyo agenda yao. Kama CCM ilikuwa
inataka
> mabadiliko ya kukomesha ufisadi, uzembe, rushwa, ubabe
na
> mengineyo yanayozalisha mamilioni ya watu maskini
> Tanzania,  basi kisingeizika ile Rasimu ya Katiba ya
Mpya
> iliyotokana na maoni ya wananchi. CCM haitaki
mabadiliko
> nchini na ndiyo sababu kinafanya kila juhudi mfumo wa
vyama
> vingi vya siasa usifanye kazi nchini--CCM iendelee
kuwa
> madarakani--watawala wachache waendelee kutajirika
kufuru
> kwa fedha na mali za Tanzania huku mamilioni ya
Watanzania
> wakiendelea kuwa mafukara..
>
> Ananilea Nkya
>  E-mail:ananilea_nkya@yahoo.com
>
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> On Sun, 10/11/15, 'ELISA MUHINGO' via
> Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re:
> [wanabidii] Mabadiliko tuliyokuwa tunayahitaji siyo ya
udini
> ukanda na ukabila..ni ya kupinga ufisadi.
>
> To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>  Date: Sunday, October 11, 2015, 9:46 PM

>  Fatma.
>
> haikuwezekana kucukua hatua zaidi kwa sababu
>  ambaye angechukua hatua naye ni mhalifu. Ndiyo
> maana CCM
>  ikaasisi mabadiliko. Kwa sababu
> kesi ya jinai haifi subiri
>  uone
> kitakachotokea. La msingi msimpeleke mhalifu Ikulu
>
> --------------------------------------------
>  On Sun, 10/11/15, fatma_elia via Wanabidii
>  <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>  wrote:

>  
> Subject: Re:
>  [wanabidii] Mabadiliko
> tuliyokuwa tunayahitaji siyo ya udini
>
> ukanda na ukabila..ni ya kupinga ufisadi.
>
>
>  To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>   Date: Sunday, October 11, 2015, 4:14 PM
>  
>   Sasa kama ushahidi
>   ulikuwa ni kujiuzulu mlifanya nini? Hatua
>  gani
>   zilichukuliwa?
>  
>   Sent from my
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> provided by Airtel Tanzania.
>  
>   -----Original Message-----
>
>
>  From: franciskasili4@gmail.com
>   Sender: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>   Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 05:55:51
>   To: Wanabidii<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>   Reply-To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Mabadiliko
>  tuliyokuwa
>   tunayahitaji
> siyo ya udini
>    ukanda na
>   ukabila..ni ya
>  kupinga
> ufisadi.
>  
>   Suala la
>  ushahidi mezani halina mashiko kwa
>   sasa
>  kwani kujihudhuru kwa
> Lowasa pasipo ubishi ni ushahidi
>   tosha na
> watanzania ndipo wanaposimamia kwa
>  sasa.
> Misemo na
>   vijimaneno a.k.a vijembe
>  havitamsafisha Lowasa au kumfanya

>  mtakatifu. Tarehe 25 siyo
> mbali itatambulika nyeupe ni
>  ipi
>   na nyeusi ni ipi wakati watanzania
>  wanafanya maamuzi
>   muhimu 
> sana kwa future
>  ya taifa lao.
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