Thursday 3 January 2013

RE: [wanabidii] re;if Jesus did not die or rose how will he return?

bwana juma abdallah,nahisi hujafuatilia mjadala huu.Kiufupi ni mimi ndiye nimeleta post hii. Na,ulichokisoma ni mwendelezo wa comments za mchangiaji aliyepita.
Lengo haswa la mjadala huu ni kutoyafanya masuala ya dini kama ni kitu kisichodilika na kinachopaswa kuchukuliwa kwa imani tu bila kuhoji..binafsi,sio tanzania ninayoitaka.nataka tanzania yenye watu wenye akili na wanaotumia akili zao vizuri kwa manufaa yao ya kidunia na mbinguni pia. Kama Mungu asingependa wanadam tutumie akili asingeweka hukumu.Hata mahakama za kidunia,hatuhukumu vichaa na matahahira. Ukiona hoja imetolewa na mtu,tulia,fikiria kwa upande wa kushoto na kulia.fanyia utafiti,kisha changia kama utapenda.kwa jinsi hii,kwa namna moja au nyingine itasaidia kutuongezea ufahamu.

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On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 9:14 AM EET Juma abdallah wrote:

>Watu kama wewe Ngupula mjadala mapema umeshakushinda halafu unasema tuendelee kujadili namana hii utafika wapi?" Kwa ufahamu wangu,waislam ndio watu wepesi duniani kwa kukosoa dini za wengine...haswa "ukristo.
>Soma kichwa cha habari changia kama unafahamu nini kuhusu hilo (If Jesus did not die or rose how will he return?) kama hujui kaa kimya wacha wanaojua wachangie sio unaanza Kucriticize bila kutoa pointi yoyote,sio lazima uandike hata kama huna cha kuandika.
>Nimekushauri tu.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: wanabidii@googlegroups.com [mailto:wanabidii@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Godfrey Ngupula
>Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 7:49 PM
>To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [wanabidii] re;if Jesus did not die or rose how will he return?
>
>
>tatizo la wasomi wengi hudhania kuwa hekima itokanayo na elimu yao yatosha kutatua matatizo ya nchi...Kwa kadri ya biblia yangu,,Mungu aliidharau hekima ya dunia hii na kuifanya kuwa ni upumbavu.Kumcha Mungu wa kweli ndio chanzo cha maarifa..kwa mtazamo wangu,mada zozote ziwe za kidini au kijamii kwa wenye uwezo wa kujadili.zijadiliwe tu.
>Ukisema eti waislam sio wavumilivu,kwa hiyo masuala ya dini yasijadiliwe.Huko ni sawa na kufukia bomu chini na kisha kujenga nyumba juu yake. kama ni kweli sio wavumilivu,wajifunze tu kuwa wavumilivu. Kwa ufahamu wangu,waislam ndio watu wepesi duniani kwa kukosoa dini za wengine...haswa ukristo.
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>On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 1:55 PM EET Fidelis Bwoya wrote:
>
>>Umenena vema.Waislam walio wengi siyo wavumilivu.Kama huamini mwulize
>>SIMBAULANGA.Modereta nami nakushauri sitisha hii mada.
>>
>>On 1/2/13, Salim Rupia <zabarelo@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Mi nadhani "Moderator" usiruhusu mada ya kidini kujadiliwa humu.
>> Ningeshauri kila dini ijadili mapungufu ya dini nyingine kwenye majukwaa ya
>> dini zao; ita "make sense" zaidi.
>> Ama kwa uhakika kabisa mada za kidini zijadiliwe na wapagani (kama upagani
>> sio dini anyway); maana yangu ni kuwa mada kama hii ijadiliwe na watu
>> "neutral" yaani wasioamini dini.
>> Nimeona mara nyingi kuwa mada kama hii inayoanza kimaskhara inaweza kuja
>> kuisha kwa madhara...kwa sababu inafika mahala mtu anachangia ki imani
>> zaidi na si ki uelewa na hakuna atakae"ona" mtazamo wa upande mwingine.
>> Why waste time and resources? Tuchangie mambo ya maendeleo wadau; ama
>> tupumzike kwa muda tuinamie ma desk yetu tuchape kazi; hamna dhambi...
>> Nawakilisha.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Godfrey Ngupula
>> <ngupula@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
>>
>> bwana Waziri, nagundua so many questionable things, to start with ndio
>> nikaona kwanza tujadili hilo. React kwenye mada basi...Ngupula
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* MikiDadi Waziri <kabangatz@gmail.com>
>> *To:* wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 1 January 2013, 15:45
>> *Subject:* Re: [wanabidii] re;if Jesus did not die or rose how will he
>> return?
>>
>> Endelea kusoma utagundua kitu chi msingi kilichokuwa ndani ya Islam
>> On Jan 1, 2013 3:42 PM, "Peter Lwegasira" <petermakatu@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Kama wanaamini atarudi kwani alienda wapi na kwa njia gani?
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 4:30 AM PST Godfrey Ngupula wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Nimekuwa nikisoma baadhi ya vitabu vya kiislam na nimegundua
>> > kuwa.waislam
>> wana wanaamini kuwa Yesu hakufa msalabani.Na pia hawaamini kama
>> alifufuka.
>> Lakini,wanaamini iko siku Yesu atarudi,tena akiwa muislam na kuwafanya
>> wakristo wote wawe waislam.Swali langu ni hili,huyo Yesu ambaye hakufa
>> wala
>> kufufuka atarudi akitokea wapi?.Ngupula
>> >
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