Ufalme wa Mungu si juu ya kula wala Kunywa
From: "johnlemomo@gmail.com" <johnlemomo@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:33 PM
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Thanks Godfrey!
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From: Godfrey Ngupula <ngupula@yahoo.co.uk>
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Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:16:10 +0000 (GMT)
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
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Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Wakristo kutokula mnyama aliyechinjwa na Muislam
Bwana Victor, nahisi masuala haya ya kuchinja huyajui vizuri,lakini kimsingi naomba uelewe kuwa hata sheria za nchi zinatamka kuwa masuala ya kuchinja ni masuala ya imani za dini. Wewe unasema kwa muda mrefu waislamu wamechinja na hakuna baya lililokupata,labda nikuulize,umetazama haya mabaya kwa mtazamo upi? Kama masuala ya kuchinja ni masuala ya imani za dini,wanaoweza kuainisha madhara ya kuchinja au kuchinjiwa na watu fulani ni viongozi wa dini. Kwa hili ningeliomba umsikilize kiongozi wako wa dini akueleze faida na madhara yake.
Nikianisha wazi mtazamo wangu mimi, kimsingi hakuna imani halali yenye haki ya kumchinjia mtu wa imani nyingine nyama yake. Nikiamua kula nyama iliyochinjwa na mtu wa imani nyingine,basi nimeamua mimi kwa uhuru wangu na hii haikuhalalishii wewe kuwa na haki ya kunichinia mimi. Na nikikataa usinichinjie nina haki ya kufanya hivyo na hakuna wa kunilazimisha.
Katika biblia imeandikwa,msile mnyama na uhai wake,bali mwageni damu yake na kuleni nyama yake. Kwa andiko hili,nyama ni halali ya wanadamu,bali uhai wa mnyama ni halali ya Mungu wangu. Kama Mkristo,ningefurahi kuchinja kwa jina la Yesu Kristo ili mnyama yule awe dhabihu safi mbele za Mungu.Napingana na wote wanaotaka kuwakandamiza Wakristo kwa hili na ninaungana na wopte wanaopigania kuheshimu uhuru wa wawakristo katika kujilia mnyama wao kwa kadri ya imani yao.
Kama wewe ni mkristo na ukiona huelewi haya,basi ujue ni utoto tu kwa kiroho ndio unaokusumbua,ukielimishwa utaelewa.
Ngupula
From: Victor Mwita <victormwita@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2013, 9:56
Subject: RE: [wanabidii] Wakristo kutokula mnyama aliyechinjwa na Muislam
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Nikianisha wazi mtazamo wangu mimi, kimsingi hakuna imani halali yenye haki ya kumchinjia mtu wa imani nyingine nyama yake. Nikiamua kula nyama iliyochinjwa na mtu wa imani nyingine,basi nimeamua mimi kwa uhuru wangu na hii haikuhalalishii wewe kuwa na haki ya kunichinia mimi. Na nikikataa usinichinjie nina haki ya kufanya hivyo na hakuna wa kunilazimisha.
Katika biblia imeandikwa,msile mnyama na uhai wake,bali mwageni damu yake na kuleni nyama yake. Kwa andiko hili,nyama ni halali ya wanadamu,bali uhai wa mnyama ni halali ya Mungu wangu. Kama Mkristo,ningefurahi kuchinja kwa jina la Yesu Kristo ili mnyama yule awe dhabihu safi mbele za Mungu.Napingana na wote wanaotaka kuwakandamiza Wakristo kwa hili na ninaungana na wopte wanaopigania kuheshimu uhuru wa wawakristo katika kujilia mnyama wao kwa kadri ya imani yao.
Kama wewe ni mkristo na ukiona huelewi haya,basi ujue ni utoto tu kwa kiroho ndio unaokusumbua,ukielimishwa utaelewa.
Ngupula
From: Victor Mwita <victormwita@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, 30 January 2013, 9:56
Subject: RE: [wanabidii] Wakristo kutokula mnyama aliyechinjwa na Muislam
Hivi kweli Watanzania wenzangu tumekosa ajenda za maana kwa mustakabali wa maendeleo taifa letu hadi tunajadili masuala ya kuchinja kidini? Mbona wameendelea kuchinja kwa miaka yote hii na hakuna baya lililotupata? Naweza kuamini kwa dhati kwamba shetani ameingia hapa nchini na tusipomkataa atatutesa mpaka tukome. Naanza kuona dalili za kuzuka uhasama wa kidini na hatimaye mauaji kama tunayoshuhudia nchi mbali mbali. Sisi tulioelimika tukemee huu ujinga. Mungu gani anayependa vurugu na mauaji ya innocent people? Lazima tuone madhara ya huu udini kwa maono mapana na tutumie kila fursa tunazopata kuyakemea. Hakuna tija yyt katika hili. Lets focus ktk mambo yanayojenga Tanzania kama nchi. Hili linatia kinyaa kulijadili
On Jan 30, 2013 8:42 AM, "Mbise, Emmanuel (Bulyanhulu)" <EMbise@africanbarrickgold.com> wrote:
-- --Mimi nafikiri kuna kitu zaidi ya haya tunayoyaona na pia ukiangalia haya yamekuja wakati wa utawala huu tena kipindi cha baada ya uchaguzi mkuu 2010 wakati viongozi wa chama tawala walipokosa hoja za msingi na matokeo yake ndio hayo chokochoko zimekuwa nyingi sana na waliyoyaanzisha wamekaa kimya nao wanalalamikia kwa mbaali sana.Kwa hali hii Tanzania yenye Amani na utulivu kama wanavyojisema wamedumisha haipo tena, sababu ni kuhamishia akili za tumbo kichwani, mimi mtu anayeongelea ubaguzi wa DINI wale ni wakristo na hawa ni waislamu sipendi hata awepo hapa duniani hakupaswa kuwepo kabisaaaaa.Haya ndio MAUA ya kuhubiri UDINI walioupanda kwenye majukwaa ya siasa MATUNDA yako njiani tuyasubiri maana ya Mtwara tulikaa kimya yametokea ndio kila mtu yuko kule.Tatizo tunapenda kutibu majeraha tu hatujui kama makovu hayatibiki ambayo huwa yanaacha maswali ambayo hayana majibu.safety has no luck play your roleEmmanuel G Mbise | Mine Captain Conventional| African Barrick Gold (Pty) | Phone: +255 (22) 2600 508 Ext: 6061 | Mobile: +255755347135 Fax: +255 (22) 2600 222 | Address: Bulyanhulu Gold Mine, African Barrick Gold, P.O. Box 1081, Dar es Salaam, Tanzania | Email EMbise@africanbarrickgold.comFrom: wanabidii@googlegroups.com [mailto:wanabidii@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hildegarda Kiwasila
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Date: Tuesday, 29 January, 2013, 19:02Tanzania kwishinehi. Ujinga wa waasisi wa udini. Haya ni mavuno.
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