Muhingo, 1) tukiongelea utendaji wa bunge tunaongelea 'principal organ' ya serikali yenye wajibu wa kuisimamia na kuishauri serikali. 2) Spika, Naibu Spika na wenyeviti wa bunge wana takiwa kuongoza vikao vya bunge kwa kufuata katiba, kanuni za bunge, sheria za nchi, uzoefu wa mabunge mengine ya Jumuiya ya Madola na zaidi ya yote kwa kutenda haki. Kwa hiyo, nategemea licha ya kufuata kanuni na sheria haki ionekane ikitendeka bungeni na kama hii haionekani hata kama ni kwa watu wachache ina maana haki haionekana ikitendeka na kama haki haionekani ikitendeka ina maana pia sheria hazijafuatwa kwa namna iliyotakiwa zifuatwe.
2016-07-14 15:36 GMT+03:00 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
Magobe.
UKAWA walikuwa sahihi kupeleka malalamiko yao kwa peaker. Na huenda walikuwa sahihi kugoma kuingia Bungeni. Kwa sababu mgomo wao haukuwa na impact walistahili kurudi bungeni siku ya pili kusubili appeal yao toka kwa Speaker. Lilikuwa kosa kubwa kuendelea kugoma na kosa hilo waliwakosea waajiri wao (wapiga kura)
Baada ya hapo ni Naibu Speaker kukalia kiti vikao v yote bila kuachia wenyeviti. Hili lina sababu kwbwa tatu:
1) Naibu Speaker hakukosea. Wenyeviti huwa wanakuja kupata uzoefu na kutoa msaada maspeaker wasichoke. Wanakuja pale kwa kupangiwa na Speaker. Sasa hakuwapangia na hakuvunja sheria.
2) Ilikuwa hivyo ili kwenda na ratiba. Tayari hija za UKAWA zilikuwa ''zinaudhi''. Kama kuendelea kukalia kiti Nasibu spika kutawaweka nje kwanini Bunge lisitumie mwanya huo.
3) Inawezekana Serikali ililiagiza bunge kufanya hivyo. agizo hilo ni batili tu kama Bunge likililalamikia. Kana hakuna nani atalalamika.
4) naongezaa ya nne ambayo kwa ushirikiano wa Bunge na Serikali wanaweza kufanya hivyo (kwa kuwa wote ni CCM) wakaamua kuandaa hoja ya kuiangusha UKAWA.
Kwa utendaji wa Serikali ya awamu ya tano naiogopa sababu ya nne kuwa inaweza kuimaliza UKAWA calories zilizobaki hivyo tukalazimika namna ya kutafuta chama mbadala.
Ohoo TANU yajenganchi! TANU heeeee! TANU yajenga nchi.
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On Wed, 7/13/16, Telesphor Magobe <tmagobe@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Wapinzani kutoka bungeni ni mkakati wa kimakosa
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 13, 2016, 3:43 PM
Thanks De Kleinson Kim.
Najaribu kuchangia kichwa cha habari: 'Wapinzani kutoka
bungeni ni mkakati wa kimakosa'
1. Kuna waliotolewa bungeni na kuna waliotoka bungeni.
Kwa sasa ngoja nijikite kwa waliotoka bungeni.
2. Ili kujua whether kutoka kwa Ukawa bungeni ni
mkakati wa kimakosa au la, ni lazima kujiuliza pia kama
kilichokuwa kikiendelea bungeni ni fair (kwa reasonable
person).
3. Kama kilikuwa fair, ina maana hatua waliyoichukua
Ukawa siyo fair. Kama kilikuwa unfair, ina maana hatua ya
ukawa ilikuwa fair.
4. Kisheria na kikanuni, Ukawa wana haki ya kufanya
walivyofanya na katika mazingira waliyokuwemo.
5. Tujiulize pia kama wenyeviti wa vikao vya
bunge wapo ni sababu zipi zilimfanya Naibu Spika kuongoza
vikao vyote vya bunge (non-stop) as if hawapo wakati haikuwa
hivyo kabla ya Ukawa kuazimia kupeleka malalamiko yao kwa
Spika ili hatimaye wapige kura ya kukosa imani naye? Ina
maana kwa vile Naibu Spika aliendelea kuongoza vikao vya
bunge muda wote hadi bunge kuahirishwa July 1, 2016 bila ya
wenyeviti wa bunge hawaitajiki tena? Je, tungetegemea bunge
ambalo linafuata sheria na haki kuendeshwa kama
lilivyoendeshwa? Kwa mawazo haya hebu tuchangie -
tuelimishane na kupeana mwanga.
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016
at 2:15 PM, De kleinson kim <dekleinson@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thank
God Magobe is here,
You are the Human Right Activist (TO ME). Say something on
this, seems
like this Government is messing up deadly!! Can you take
us there?
PLEASE SIR!
Thank you.
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