Sunday 2 December 2012

[wanabidii] Re: [PK] Re: [uchunguzionline] HOW RAILA ODINGA HATE THE KIKUYU'S.

Lister,

It is refreshing reading your sober posting.

I have been to all parts of Kenya where we invite Kenyans to help Clean our Country. As a Person, I have my political preferences, but as The Clean Kenya Campaign, we invite Kenyans to make very clear choices, and this is why we are working with all Kenyans in this Campaign.

I was in Kenya when we had clashes in 2008 and I saw first hand what violence does to a people. We all bleed. There in no one who has water in his Blood System, and if you hit someone with a Panga, the consequences are the same.

I hence find it very careless for people like Kibet, Roz Kahumbu and Warsama preaching War daily in the Blogs, and then twisting it around to Raila, ODM and to the Luo.

I am a Luo and I am a Kenyan. I have equal rights to Kenya just like my friends Ndiritu, Rose, Wams and KM- our partisan Askofu.

It will be good for us to debate issues and not to engage in romour mongering from the safety of our off-shore homes. Kibet writes his shit from the US, and the moment Kikuyus and Luos start fighting each other in Kenya, he will be very far off and smiling all the way.

As Kenyans, we must respect that we are all Kenyans and we are all free to vote which-ever way. This must never get personal. I am on record as saying that I will vote for Mr. John Gakuo as my Governor in Nairobi, and yet, we have a Mr. Evans Kidero- a Luo like me in the ballot.

This is what Jaramogi did to Mzee Kenyatta, and this is what Raila did to Mzee Kibaki.

Where does hate come in?

Oto

--- On Sun, 12/2/12, Joseph Lister Nyaringo <diplomat1499@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Joseph Lister Nyaringo <diplomat1499@yahoo.com>
Subject: [PK] Re: [uchunguzionline] HOW RAILA ODINGA HATE THE KIKUYU'S.
To: "uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com" <uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com" <uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, December 2, 2012, 5:23 PM

Whichever side of the aisle you belong, Will the arguments you  all front here convince people to join your camp? This is for those who support Raila Odinga and Uhuru Kenyatta etc. My understanding of political campaigns in a democracy is that you convince voters on why your candidate is better than his or her opponents. We are tired of tribal arguments which does not take us any where. My thought, whether its Raila of ODM, Uhuru of TNA or Mudavadi of UDF remember, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 2, 2012, at 6:16 PM, john kibet <kcheruiyot@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

Ngugu KM,

The truth must be told brother. This ODMer  and Raila Odinga HATE THE KIKUYU'S with all their MIGHT. They think that the Kikuyu's EPITOMIZES
EVIL. This is why they were claiming today at Tononoka grounds that the presidency is not the preserve of one community. If I remember well, Kenyans
elected President Kibaki to power in 2002 and 2007.

The only person who has ever tried to get to POWER THROUGH ILLEGITIMATE MEANS IS RAILA AMOLLO ODINGA. As far as I know, Moi too, a Kalenjin got elected and not selected.

Today in Mombasa, you just have to see the hate coming from Raila and his ODM sycophants. Ati, we need other people from different tribes to lead. Where
does it say in the constitution that such a thing needs to happen? If Raila says he singled handedly passed the constitution ( a lie), DIDN'T HE READ THAT SAME CONSTITUTION? This man is a complete idiot for sure.

The hate is the fact that it is a SIN FOR RUTTO TO SUPPORT A KIKUYU. THIS ONLY COMES TRHOUGH THE HATRED OF THE KIKUYUS.
To Raila Odinga and his worshipers, it is not TRIBAL when the Kalenjins support him to get to power. Because he and his SUPPORTERS ( many in these
forums) HATE THE KIKUYU THAT MUCH, they can't CONTROL THEMSELVES saying all they're saying.

Kwani Kikuyu's walikula mbuzi ya nani? What did the Kikuyu's eat or do to ELICIT SUCH HATRED FROM these ODMers and Raila?

You even have James Orengo EQUATING Uhuru and Rutto as HITLER. Unbelievable stuff, people. Where is Kibunjia and his HATE POLICE?
Why can't these people like Orengo and company be held ACCOUNT FOR HATE SPEECH? What is it that the Kikuyu's did to such people?
With Orengo's case, it was President Moi that IMPRISONED HIM. As far as I know, Moi is NOT A KIKUYU.

This just shows the HATRED that Raila's SUPPORTERS and COURT JESTERS HAVE TOWARDS THE KIKUYU'S.

Kenyans is not under a DICTATORSHIP. They are free to ELECT whatever leaders they chose. What is wrong with that?

President Obama coupled together a coalition of voters to win. These groups might have not have had a name called tribe before them, but they had an
INTEREST TO ELECT him? Was it not democratic then? The only difference is that this groups went by a different name other the name "tribe."

What about when the Luo's SUPPORT Raila with 99.99%? Is that TRIBAL? Is that undemocratic? These ODMers THINK most Kenyans must be
STUPID and NAIVE to buy into their hatred and propaganda.

Such kind of people like ODM and Raila need to be stopped. And Kenyans will do just that come March 2013.

John K
USC
USA




From: Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
To: uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [uchunguzionline] HOW RAILA ODINGA HATE THE KIKUYU'S.

 
Kibet
Karibu tena. We missed you. Talk to us ndugu

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 4:52 PM, john kibet <kcheruiyot@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
Folks,

When you have a so called Prime Minister ( a man who was selected and not elected), hoodwinking people that TNA and URP was out to
derail the constitution, you know this is a CON MAN EXTRA-EXTRAORDINAIRE!

For those supporters of Raila, I would like to remind them that he (Raila) DIDN'T PASS THE CONSTITUTION ALONE. Today, he said that
"...his opponents were obsessed with fighting him and ODM through tribal alliances..." Let me remind Raila and ODM FANATICS
that without the help of Uhuru and the Kikuyu's, THE CONSTITUTION WOULD NOT HAVE PASSED. Simple as that.

Uhuru Kenyatta was INSTRUMENTAL IN PASSING THE CONSTITUION. So for Raila and his henchmen to try to hoodwink people
that somehow, he ALONE WAS THE REASON WHY THE CONSTITUTION CAME FORTH or was PASSED, is COMPLETE
GARBAGE and UTTER NONSENSE!

This man is beyond being a cartoonist. He reminds me of the late IDI AMIN or Muamar Gadaffi and their INSUFFERABLE EGOS
Both of them were NARCISSISTIC DICTATORS, the way  Raila Odinga is. They all share the same characteristics.

Secondly, he (Raila) PROSTITUTED himself to Rutto and asked him to be his running mate.WASN'T HE PLAYING TRIBAL
POLITICS then? The good thing is that Kenyans are not five year old's that can buy such CHEAP USHENZI from a person who
claims to be the protector of the constitution.

Let me ask the ODM kool-aid drinkers this: IS THIS THE SAME RAILA ODINGA THAT NEARLY DESTROYED KENYA IN 2008
BY NOT USING THE LAW TO FIGHT HIS DISSATISFACTION with the outcome of the elections? Gosh, talk of having a short memory
for sure.

Raila Odinga might have a short memory, but Kenyans for sure don't---especially us Kalenjins. 

The ONLY REASON why Raila SUPPORTED President Kibaki in 2002 was because he THOUGHT THAT KIBAKI WOULD RETURN
THE FAVOR IN 2007. This is part of the REASON WHY RAILA ODINGA IS A BITTER MAN, AND AS A CONSEQUENCE, PLUNGED
THE COUNTRY INTO CHAOS BY NOT CONCEDING WHEN HE LOST IN 2007. The only reason why he calls the TNA-URP alliance
a tribal hegemony, is BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT HE WON'T HAVE A CHANCE WHEN THE KIKUYU'S AND KALENJINS
COME TOGETHER.

This comes from a man who speaks from both ends of his mouth. The desperation has set in and he's on a name calling train. This is a man
who HONESTY IS NOT IN HIS DNA.

Hopefully, Uhuru and Rutto can EXPOSE  his (RAILA'S) BITTERNESS and what made him let Kenya burn, when The Hague comes in April 2013.

John K
University of Southern California
USA









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