Jibu hoja! Ni wapi kwenye Biblia panaposema Bikira Mariamu hakufanya dhambi? Nimethibitisha katika Biblia kuwa "Wote wamefanya dhambi na kupungukiwa na utukufu wa Mungu" (Warumi 3:23). Hayo mmeyatoa wapi?. Wewe mwenye kitu hebu tueleze, ni wapi kwenye Biblia Bikira Mariamu alikingiwa dhambi ya asili, au hakufanya dhambi.
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From: Telesphor Magobe <tmagobe@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Re: 'Pope' Claims Mary Was Conceived 'Without Original Sin' During Feast of Immaculate Conception
Jovias, ogopa mtu ambaye hana kitu isipokuwa anaokotezaokoteza maoni ya watu wengine na kuyatumia kukosoa Kanisa Katoliki. Heri angejenga hoja yeye mwenyewe hapo ningeona amesema kitu. Lakini kurudiarudia tu maoni ya wengine binafsi naona anapoteza muda tu maana hakuna kipya anachosema! Yaani ni kama msemo usemao: "Ganda la muwa la jana chungu kaona kivuno."
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 8:07 AM, 'frank patrick materu' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Wisdom and knowledge does not mean the same thing. Knowledge is when you become learned and wisdom is when you make good use of the knowledge like sharing it, doing good deeds according to it and so on.
From: Joseph Ludovick <josephludovick@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2014 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Re: 'Pope' Claims Mary Was Conceived 'Without Original Sin' During Feast of Immaculate Conception
Argumentum ad IgnorantiamOn Dec 17, 2014 7:10 AM, "Jovias Mwesiga" <ngonzy@gmail.com> wrote:--Arbo huyu jamaa sijui anatafuta nini sababu anasoma kutoka kwa watu waliojitoa kanisani kwa shida zao.
U doing good brother narudia hakuna utakachosema ambacho mkatoliki wa kawaida hakifahamu japo hajui kumeza vipande vya maandiko kama wewe.By the way unasaidia wavivu kuamkaOn Dec 16, 2014 4:11 PM, "Arbo" <akihaule@gmail.com> wrote:--Frank for argument's sake lay aside your denominational attachment and bias.--Caste aside Catholicism and whatever Christian denomination you might be professing. Get out of that box. Stand aside.Ask yourself a very simple question, who is God ? Does God change ? Is Jesus God ? Has there been any time God's Holiness was tainted ?Go back to the old testament , what did God ask Moses to do when he appeared to him for the first time ? If he was told to take off his shoes because the ground where he stood was a Holy Place only by virtue of God's presence , what can we speak of a person who carried a God's son in her womb ?Need we say more?
On Saturday, 13 December 2014 17:41:03 UTC+1, Frank Materu wrote:ROME – In one of the feasts and celebrations marked on the Roman Catholic liturgical calendar leading up to Christmas, Catholics around the world observed the Feast of Immaculate Conception on Monday, a day in which those who follow the religion commemorate their belief that Mary was born without sin.The pontiff known as Pope Francis led Catholics in the annual observance of the holiday, delivering an Angelus address in St. Peter's Square."Oh Mary, our mother, today the people of God in celebration venerates you, the immaculate, preserved from the contagion of sin from the beginning," he prayed. "Accept the gift I offer on behalf of the church in Rome and throughout the whole world.""In this time that leads us to the feast of the birth of Jesus, teach us to go against the tide," Francis continued. "The power of God's love, which has preserved you from original sin, freed all of humanity through your intercession from every spiritual and material slavery and made the designs of God's salvation victorious within hearts and events."According to the National Catholic Register, he also declared to the crowds gathered that in Mary "there was no room for sin," because "God had chosen her to be the mother of Jesus," which resulted in her being preserved from "original sin."The pontiff later venerated the Statue of the Immaculate Conception in Rome's Piazza di Spagna and invited others to join him. The statue was created in 1857 as a mark of the Roman Catholic belief that Mary was conceived without sin."I ask you to spiritually unite yourselves to me in this pilgrimage, which expresses filial devotion to our heavenly mother," he said.
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