[wanabidii] Re: POLITICS MIGHT BE BEHIND KIDERO'S WOES

 

 

Okil,

 

 

 

I appreciate sharing this engagement in fairness of public judgement......and

I hope it will also throw some light to others who are still in doubt, grappling

with the idea of crediting misconduct of Shebesh.  I am convinced that the

correlation of "maybe" is not far from coming close to your acceptance that I

have satisfied you sufficiently.

 

 

 

Cheers !!!

 

 

 

Judy Miriga
Diaspora Spokesperson
Executive Director
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
USA
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Nyamodi Ochieng Nyamogo <okil@nyamogoadvocates.com>
To: wanakenya@googlegroups.com
Cc: Uchunguzionline <uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: POLITICS MIGHT BE BEHIND KIDERO'S WOES

Judy,
I can hear you! Maybe!

On 9/8/13, Judy Miriga <jbatec@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Okil,
>
>
>
> In that context, there seemed to have been some combination
> of grabbing and knee clogging that provoked the slap, a reflex
> of defense. This andrew is only saying what he saw. Other
> witness will also say what they saw. Kidero will say what he
> felt then after recollection from the agony of pain, he may
> remember and recollect what happened. But defense is justified.
>
>
>
> Again, it is clear that, Kidero was provoked beyond imagination.
>
>
>
> Judy Miriga
> Diaspora Spokesperson
> Executive Director
> Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
> USA
> http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Nyamodi Ochieng Nyamogo <okil@nyamogoadvocates.com>
> To: Judy Miriga <jbatec@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Uchunguzionline <uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>;
> "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>;
> "wanakenya@googlegroups.com" <wanakenya@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: POLITICS MIGHT BE BEHIND KIDERO'S WOES
>
> Judy,
> How is that so called body guard going to demonstrate that
> Kidero did not crash on to/in to Shebesh's knee???!!! In any event, i
> thought it was Kidero's claim that Shebesh TOUCHED his private
> parts!!! Either way, if Shebesh can demonstrate that whatever happened
> was accidental, would she still warrant a slap???!!! Is it not the
> quality of a leader to be restrained even in the face of obvious
> provocation???!!!
> Nyamodi Ochieng-Nyamogo.
>
> On 9/8/13, Judy Miriga <jbatec@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Okil,
>>
>>
>>
>> In Summary, let me re-phrase it in a way you can understand.
>>
>>
>>
>> Quote: Andrew Adallah One of Kidero's bodyguards and an aide have
>> confirmed
>> that #Shebesh hit Kidero's balls with her knees. This is BAAD!! Don't
>> ever
>> try hitting a man's strongholds
>>
>>
>> For this case, in whichever way you look at it, actions of Shebesh is
>> thuggish, provocative, irresponsible and is lacking aptitude of a
>> law-maker. All serious minded must see this to what it amounts and we
>> must
>> condemn in the strongest terms there is.
>>
>> Hiyo Shebesh alifanya ni dhambi tena ni makosa kuvamia office na gang.
>> There was no way Shebesh was going to solve a problem in Kidero's office
>> by
>> ambushing and terrorizing the office with thugs. By the look of things,
>> it
>> is proof enough that, by Shebesh aggression, she went to harass and
>> intimidate Kidero. Law Makers should know better than anyone else how to
>> conduct themselves honorably with dignity. There is protocol to follow;
>> and
>> so, Shebesh was wrong and those supporting her are influencing jungle
>> rule
>> opposite of Democracy. Shebesh behavior is not professional or
>> responsible
>> and it is unacceptable.
>>
>>
>>
>> Judy Miriga
>> Diaspora Spokesperson
>> Executive Director
>> Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
>> USA
>> http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Nyamodi Ochieng Nyamogo <okil@nyamogoadvocates.com>
>> To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: "africa-oped@yahoogroups.com" <africa-oped@yahoogroups.com>;
>> uchunguzi
>> online <uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 9:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [africa-oped] Re: [PK] Re: POLITICS MIGHT BE BEHIND KIDERO'S
>> WOES
>>
>>
>> Judy,
>> I am unable to answer because, honestly, i am unable to
>> understand what question you've asked in the so many words!
>> Nyamodi Ochieng-Nyamogo.
>>
>> On 9/8/13, khaguli maurice <mkhaguli@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> KM,
>>> I agree with you 100% but Okil practising law?mmmmh.........
>>> We stand to emphasize the truth, truth is one!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
>>> To: progressive-kenyans <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
>>> Cc: uchunguzi online <uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; Africa-Oped
>>> <africa-oped@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 8:15 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [africa-oped] Re: [PK] Re: POLITICS MIGHT BE BEHIND
>>> KIDERO'S
>>> WOES
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Khaguli
>>> Unlike you and me, Okil studied law and practices it. Now shut the hell
>>> up
>>> and listen to him.
>>> On Sep 7, 2013 10:10 AM, "khaguli maurice" <mkhaguli@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> KM,
>>>>You understand Kenya traditions very well. Am not a lawyer but this case
>>>> will never see proper justice that is a valid argument. Why? it is
>>>> Nairobi
>>>> and Uhuru can not accept to be tangled in a women vs men street wars.
>>>> look
>>>> at it and connect it straight not from selfish angle to the last
>>>> worrying election. Son of Jomo need political peace now than crap wars
>>>> of
>>>> Kidero and thuggish Shebesh. Shebesh was wrong, an embarrassment to
>>>> Kenya
>>>> women-simple as that
>>>>We stand to emphasize the truth, truth is one!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
>>>>To: progressive-kenyans <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
>>>>Cc: uchunguzi online <uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; Africa-Oped
>>>> <africa-oped@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 7:58 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [africa-oped] Re: [PK] Re: POLITICS MIGHT BE BEHIND
>>>> KIDERO'S
>>>> WOES
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sure. Did they sue her and judge said she was justified? If Shebesh does
>>>> sue, it will be like those cases. She sues, those cases become
>>>> irrelevant
>>>>
>>>>On Sep 7, 2013 9:44 AM, "khaguli maurice" <mkhaguli@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>Kuria,
>>>>>Don't twist us saaaaana ndugu. Remember what Lucy Kibaki did to Saitoti
>>>>> and Kiraitu wa murungi? jameni, wewe ni cancer mbaya sana. If akina
>>>>> waititu can ran away from justice why are you pushing justice from
>>>>> other
>>>>> angle of the county? does it mean shebesh is more special because
>>>>> alizapwa na Kidero? you cant win on this argument. attack it from the
>>>>> other door
>>>>>We stand to emphasize the truth, truth is one!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
>>>>>To: progressive-kenyans <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>;
>>>>> uchunguzi
>>>>> online <uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; Africa-Oped
>>>>> <africa-oped@yahoogroups.com>; VVM Vuguvugu Mashinani
>>>>> <VuguVuguMashinani@yahoogroups.com>; WanaKenya
>>>>> <Wanakenya@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 7:30 AM
>>>>>Subject: [africa-oped] Re: [PK] Re: POLITICS MIGHT BE BEHIND KIDERO'S
>>>>> WOES
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks Okil. I am now getting to understand them. I had assumed we were
>>>>> debating strictly legal issues and forgot the politics which seem to
>>>>> influence most discourses on the forum.
>>>>>
>>> i would rather we assumed it was not Kidero but Waititu occupying that
>>> seat
>>> as Governor, then one Hon Millie Odhiambo did what Shebesh did but got
>>> slapped by Waititu. If they tell us that Waititu would be justified,
>>> then,
>>> I
>>> would say the gentlemen and women of Cord are very objective and have a
>>> point,. If Kidero can slap Ida also if she went to complain to him, then
>>> we
>>> have no issue with them.
>>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Nyamodi Ochieng Nyamogo
>>>>> <okil@nyamogoadvocates.com> wrote:
>>>>>KM,
>>>>>> "CORD" political "correctness", equitably applied should! You
>>>>>>remember the type that dictates that Uhuru Kenyatta is "guilty" simply
>>>>>>because certain allegations have been leveled against him in Holland!
>>>>>>By the way, does it matter how a "leader" acts/reacts in the face of
>>>>>>public "hostility"???!!!
>>>>>> Nyamodi Ochieng-Nyamogo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/7/13, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote: > Who can remove
>>>>>> Kidero unless he is charged and has to face jail time? > > > On Sat,
>>>>>> Sep
>>>>>> 7, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Tim Mutala <timutala@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >>
>>>>>> And
>>>>>> the politics of that infamous slap shall have serious consequences on
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> the residents of Nairobi unless Kidero is removed from power. Slaps
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> >> consequences.