Monday, 2 September 2013

[wanabidii] ODM is no as good at it portrays itself

TNA has the instruments of power at hand. Land issues in Kenya are well documented in the Ndungu report and in the TJRC among others.
 
We have now had successive governments that have just talked about land without making attempts of finding long lasting solutions. If TNA can undo such, then its a welcome so that issues of squatters can be a bygone the goodness of ODM being a non factor - some problem you suffer whether one is in a ruling party or not.
 
Evans MACHERA

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Subject: (VVM Forum) Re: [PK] ODM is no as good at it portrays itself
 
Kumbe ndugu Muoga. Thanks for sharing this with us.
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Jacob Boaz Muoga <jacoboaz2002@yahoo.com> wrote:
the so called ODM Leaders in Coast use to use Orengo As a bridge to allocate themselves thousands of acres in Lamu and get title deeds that belonged to other people in Mombasa at exchange of paying Orengo apartment/hotel rooms at The NYALI beach hotels particularly Tamarind and they also got Railway land to place their godowns at no fees.who does not know that in Mombasa?They should support UHURUTO forthwith on this matter and stop acting like the Arab absentee landlords.

Jacob Boaz
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Subject: Re: [uchunguzionline] CORD POSITION ON LAND REFORMS
 
Elimu ni nguvu. Thank you mama Cidi for speaking the truth and speaking from the ground. I think Cord and more so Rao should first get the right information before going public on such issues. I would have expected them to support the issuance of the title deeds but call for speedy investigation and issuance of title deeds instead of condemning the exercise in toto. For once, their position that there is a political agenda didnt hold water since those they claimed were sidelined went public and stated that they were consulted and are in full pictures. The Cord leaders in Coast realized that their leaders at the top were the ones playing politics with the land issue. It is from this background, that Lee, a prominent ODM youth leader payukered.
Ruto had a good response on this. He said that, they are okay being labeled clerks if that means helping wananchi.
I dont see the reason for porojo from Cord, the anger over these title deeds. The focus should have been solving the land instead of attacking those trying to solve the land question. Are they afraid that the current regime may succeed where others failed? Afraid of losing ground politically?
If I were Uhuruto, I would ignore Cord and solve this land issue for the next 5 years. By the time Rao returns to Coast to talk land maneno, no one would listen to him. Lets not forget that ODM held the land docket and Orengo, like those before him sat on these titles for years. Ngilu comes in, get cobwebs off the titles and hand them to owners. Instead of giving her kudos and demanding that more be done, Cord leaders come raising hell and didnt even want the titles go to owners. Will there ever learn to shut the hell up when necessary and raise it when it is necessary? Hell no. Everything must be opposed as long as it does not benefit them,
I wont be shocked to see Coast tilting towards Jubilee in 2017 if the latter play their political cards well. They are already doing well....Just Cord leaders in Coast about that.
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Naomi Cidi <cidi.naomi@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Hey Lee,
We all know information is power!
The tittle Deeds that are being distributed now have been in draws since the NARC administration was in power as you rightly put it.  The question is - Why were they not distributed to us then?  
I received my tittle deed at last. I come from Kakoneni in Kilifi County. People in Lango Baya and Chakama and Soso Bora in Kilifi County got their tittle deeds. This is land that is not contested and not held by absentee landlords. We are not squatters on this land! Why deny us our titles in the name of Land Reforms? Other Kenyans in other counties have their tittle deeds so they can empower themselves through bank loans. Kwani Pwani Si Kenya?  
For your information, the Land Reforms are on Course. My Brother Dr. Swazuri who heads the NLC says the land reforms are on course and that contested Land is 20% only out of coastal land that needs to be investigated. The balance 80% is not contentious. Why deny coastals their tittle deeds on the 80% ?
Previous Governments played politics with our land problems. I am aware ODM especially played politics on our land issues and were voted into power all of the 6 Counties. Now, those who were shouting horse for us not to take our tittle deeds were not coastals. Anyway they went to State House - ate Ugali I presume and changed tune! Now it's OK for us to receive our tittle deeds! Shame on them. They own big pieces of land in Lamu and other parts of Kenya and have tittle deeds but they don't want the poor coastal to get their titles for two acres three acres of lands? It's inhuman! 
Wapwani wish to collectively thank the Jubilee Government for distributing our long awaited tittle deeds. We have all hope that through the NLC more tittle deeds will be given to us by the Jubilee Government - kusema na Kutenda mayo- and that other historical injustices wll be addressed within the first 4 years of this administration!
Am smiling! All the way to the bank!
Madam Naomi Cidi.
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On Sep 2, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Lee Makwiny <amosogal@gmail.com> wrote:
 
The new obsession of the Jubilee government with title deeds at the Coast Province raises many questions as to the true objectives of the coalition. Firstly, the truth is that the process of solving the squatter problem at the coast is not a jubilee initiative. These are processes that started as far back as 2002 under the NARC government. All that the Jubilee government has done is to move title deeds from the strong room and distributed it to the beneficiaries. It is not honest to pirate on the efforts and initiatives of previous governments to bolster ones political capital. Let Jubilee initiate and implement its own programs on land reform and only then will they be entitled to claim credit. Secondly, this process is clearly an effort to hood wink Kenyans into believing that land reform has started without the government having to deal with the real issues. At the centre of land reform in Kenya is the addressing of historical injustices as contemplated by the Constitution. How the Kenyattas came to own upto one quarter of Kenya's land. The Jubilee government wants to pull the wool over the eyes of Kenyans so that they forget the real objectives of land reform. When the President says that land titles should be investigated, this investigation cannot be for the crimes of a few years back and must extend to the days after independence where the root of these land crimes lie. And the Constitution is clear that this investigation is to be conducted by the National Lands Commission. By taking over the process, the president and his deputy want to determine what gets investigated and what does not. That leaves the Kenyatta family's land intact. Remember Ruto was recently forced to hand back land he had stolen from an internally displaced Kenyan. Remember the same Ruto was in court over land belonging to the Kenya Pipeline. The two leaders want to hijack the process, keep the Land Commission away so that Kenyans cool down feeling reforms have began and so that the two shield what they own.If the Jubilee government is being honest about land reform, let them uphold the Constitution of Kenya and leave the matter to the institutions and agencies created by the Constitution for this purpose. Otherwise, the Jubilee government will only be subverting the Constitution so as to protect the vested interests that will suffer from genuine land reform. Let an independent organisation carry out land reforms. That organisation is the Land Commission.
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