mashaka mjadala wako sio kaka' sioni logic ya debate hii
From: Gaudencia Ngetti <gaudencia.ngetti@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 1:28 PM
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From: Gaudencia Ngetti <gaudencia.ngetti@yahoo.com>
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] URAIS 2015 – MATATIZO YA EDWARD LOWASSA
Hoja ni nzuri maana inajadilika. Lowassa kama Mtanzania mwingine yeyote nikiwemo mimi anaweza kugombea Urais na akawa. Hofu yangu Wanabidii ni kwamba si Lowassa anayetaka kuwa Rais na wala si yeye anayejitaja isipokuwa lipo kundi kubwa la mafisadi nyuma yake inayotaka kumuingiza si kutumikia wananchi, na kama ni kutumikia wananchi basi hiyo itakuwa ni surplus tu lakini agenda ni kuendeleza ukwapuaji wa rasilimali za umma kwa gharama za wasakatonge wa wavuja jasho. Tuko zaidi ya 20 milioni watu wazima, tujichunguze, tupapase hadi tumpate Rais afaaye 2015, mpo hapo/
From: Mashaka Mgeta <mgeta2000@yahoo.com>
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] URAIS 2015 – MATATIZO YA EDWARD LOWASSA
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Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] URAIS 2015 – MATATIZO YA EDWARD LOWASSA
Lucas Haule. Habari za siku?
Mimi nadhani si sheria, bali makubaliano ya pamoja ndani ya vyama husika.
Pili kuhusu kuwajua wagombea urais ni muhimu hata mimi ninaamini hivyo, na niliwahi kuandika hata kwenye safu za magazeti. Lakini hii hoja ya Maro bado sioni kama ina umuhimu.
Hebu soma maneno niliyoyawekea rangi nyekundu katika paragraph ya mwisho aliyoiandika halafu niambie utajibu nini! ninainukuu:
Sheria ya baadhi ya vyama zimewakataza wenye nia ya kugombea kujitangaza kabla ya wakati.
Nyerere alisema ni vyema tuwafahamu mapema kusudi tupate muda wa kuwatambua.
Mashaka Tubebelipi katika hayo?
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On Mon, 9/2/13, mngonge <mngonge@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] URAIS 2015 – MATATIZO YA EDWARD LOWASSA
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, September 2, 2013, 2:42 AM
Nafikiri Yona yuko sahihi
maana hapa tunajadili issues lakini issues zenyewe ziko
connected na wasifu wa mtu. Kwenye jukwaa hili
tumekwishawajadili wengi tu akiwemo Dr. Slaa, Zitto nk.
Hawakujadiliwa kwa sababu walitangaza nia ya kugombea urais
la hasha. Ni swala la kubrainstorm nani hasa anafaa
kuliongoza taifa letu hapo mbeleni. Kimsingi ni kujaribu
kuangalia taifa letu linahitaji nini na nani haswa anaweza
kutusaidia kufikia malengo yetu. Hakuna sababu ya kuwa na
woga wa kujadili haya. Inawezekana wapo watu wazuri sana na
wanafaa kuwa viongozi wetu lakini wao hawajijui, tukiwajua
ni swala la kwenda kuwaomba wagombee. Si kila mtu anayependa
kuwa kiongozi ana sifa za uongozi, wapo wasiopenda kuwa
viongozi lakini wanazo sifa.
2013/9/2 Mashaka Mgeta
<mgeta2000@yahoo.com>
Yona Maro
kwa nini tumjadili Lowassa kuhusu Urais ambao na wewe
umeandikwa 'anatajwa'. Tuambie kwanza
'anatajwa' na nani?
Pili, tunafikia mahali pa kumjadili mtu katika taifa lenye
changamoto nyingi zinazohitaji michango ya watu kama
unaowauliza swali hilo ambalo binafsi (niwie radhi kwa hili)
naliona halina mantiki yoyote.
Mzee Joseph Butiku, aliwahi kuzungumza kwenye mjadala mmoja
katika ukumbu wa Nkurumah, UDSM, akasema, "Kiongozi
bora ataonekana kwa maneno na matendo yake, akijiibua
kupitia njia hizo na umma kumuona anawafaa pale Uchaguzi
Mkuu unapowadia."
Hapo alikuwa akijibu hoja iliyotolewa siku hiyo na January
Makamba, aliposema Rais wa 2015 asiwe aliyezaliwa nyuma ya
1961 (mwaka Tanganyika ilipopata Uhuru), akimaanisha awe
kijana.
Sasa wewe tukishayajadili mema ama mabaya ya Lowassa,
ili iweje? Asipogombea ingawa anatajwa, mjadala huu utakuwa
na maana gani?
Ninashauri Lowassa aachwe atekeleze wajibu wake kwa umma
kama wengine wanavyofanywa, ili siku itakapofika, avune kwa
kadri ya mbegu alizozipanda. Ndivyo inavyotustahili wote.
Mashaka Bonifas Mgeta
From: Yona Fares Maro
<oldmoshi@gmail.com>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday,
September 2, 2013 1:43 AM
Subject:
[wanabidii] URAIS 2015 – MATATIZO YA EDWARD LOWASSA
Ndugu zangu ,
Mhe Lowassa ambaye ni waziri mkuu wa zamani wa
Tanzania ametajwa mara kadhaa kutaka kugombea urais wa
Tanzania kupitia CCM .
Pamoja na mazuri yote aliyonayo kama kiongozi bado kuna yale
mengi tusiyajua kama kiongozi tunapenda tufahamishane wewe
kama Mtanzania unaona matatizo gani ukumtazama Edward
Lowassa , ukimsikia au ukisoma kuhusu yeye ?
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Mimi nadhani si sheria, bali makubaliano ya pamoja ndani ya vyama husika.
Pili kuhusu kuwajua wagombea urais ni muhimu hata mimi ninaamini hivyo, na niliwahi kuandika hata kwenye safu za magazeti. Lakini hii hoja ya Maro bado sioni kama ina umuhimu.
Hebu soma maneno niliyoyawekea rangi nyekundu katika paragraph ya mwisho aliyoiandika halafu niambie utajibu nini! ninainukuu:
Pamoja na mazuri yote aliyonayo kama kiongozi bado kuna yale
mengi tusiyajua kama kiongozi tunapenda tufahamishane wewe
kama Mtanzania unaona matatizo gani ukumtazama Edward
Lowassa , ukimsikia au ukisoma kuhusu yeye.
mengi tusiyajua kama kiongozi tunapenda tufahamishane wewe
kama Mtanzania unaona matatizo gani ukumtazama Edward
Lowassa , ukimsikia au ukisoma kuhusu yeye.
From: lucas haule <kisacha2003@yahoo.com>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] URAIS 2015 – MATATIZO YA EDWARD LOWASSA
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 3:06 AM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] URAIS 2015 – MATATIZO YA EDWARD LOWASSA
Sheria ya baadhi ya vyama zimewakataza wenye nia ya kugombea kujitangaza kabla ya wakati.
Nyerere alisema ni vyema tuwafahamu mapema kusudi tupate muda wa kuwatambua.
Mashaka Tubebelipi katika hayo?
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 9/2/13, mngonge <mngonge@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] URAIS 2015 – MATATIZO YA EDWARD LOWASSA
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, September 2, 2013, 2:42 AM
Nafikiri Yona yuko sahihi
maana hapa tunajadili issues lakini issues zenyewe ziko
connected na wasifu wa mtu. Kwenye jukwaa hili
tumekwishawajadili wengi tu akiwemo Dr. Slaa, Zitto nk.
Hawakujadiliwa kwa sababu walitangaza nia ya kugombea urais
la hasha. Ni swala la kubrainstorm nani hasa anafaa
kuliongoza taifa letu hapo mbeleni. Kimsingi ni kujaribu
kuangalia taifa letu linahitaji nini na nani haswa anaweza
kutusaidia kufikia malengo yetu. Hakuna sababu ya kuwa na
woga wa kujadili haya. Inawezekana wapo watu wazuri sana na
wanafaa kuwa viongozi wetu lakini wao hawajijui, tukiwajua
ni swala la kwenda kuwaomba wagombee. Si kila mtu anayependa
kuwa kiongozi ana sifa za uongozi, wapo wasiopenda kuwa
viongozi lakini wanazo sifa.
2013/9/2 Mashaka Mgeta
<mgeta2000@yahoo.com>
Yona Maro
kwa nini tumjadili Lowassa kuhusu Urais ambao na wewe
umeandikwa 'anatajwa'. Tuambie kwanza
'anatajwa' na nani?
Pili, tunafikia mahali pa kumjadili mtu katika taifa lenye
changamoto nyingi zinazohitaji michango ya watu kama
unaowauliza swali hilo ambalo binafsi (niwie radhi kwa hili)
naliona halina mantiki yoyote.
Mzee Joseph Butiku, aliwahi kuzungumza kwenye mjadala mmoja
katika ukumbu wa Nkurumah, UDSM, akasema, "Kiongozi
bora ataonekana kwa maneno na matendo yake, akijiibua
kupitia njia hizo na umma kumuona anawafaa pale Uchaguzi
Mkuu unapowadia."
Hapo alikuwa akijibu hoja iliyotolewa siku hiyo na January
Makamba, aliposema Rais wa 2015 asiwe aliyezaliwa nyuma ya
1961 (mwaka Tanganyika ilipopata Uhuru), akimaanisha awe
kijana.
Sasa wewe tukishayajadili mema ama mabaya ya Lowassa,
ili iweje? Asipogombea ingawa anatajwa, mjadala huu utakuwa
na maana gani?
Ninashauri Lowassa aachwe atekeleze wajibu wake kwa umma
kama wengine wanavyofanywa, ili siku itakapofika, avune kwa
kadri ya mbegu alizozipanda. Ndivyo inavyotustahili wote.
Mashaka Bonifas Mgeta
From: Yona Fares Maro
<oldmoshi@gmail.com>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday,
September 2, 2013 1:43 AM
Subject:
[wanabidii] URAIS 2015 – MATATIZO YA EDWARD LOWASSA
Ndugu zangu ,
Mhe Lowassa ambaye ni waziri mkuu wa zamani wa
Tanzania ametajwa mara kadhaa kutaka kugombea urais wa
Tanzania kupitia CCM .
Pamoja na mazuri yote aliyonayo kama kiongozi bado kuna yale
mengi tusiyajua kama kiongozi tunapenda tufahamishane wewe
kama Mtanzania unaona matatizo gani ukumtazama Edward
Lowassa , ukimsikia au ukisoma kuhusu yeye ?
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