[wanabidii] Re: [PK] Men as baby sitters?

Pastor/Kamakia,

The world has changed. With both husband and wife going to work, kids
spend most time with babysitters or maids so the issue of the man or
woman babysitting is gradually becomng irrelevant.

Courage



On 10/24/12, PETER KAMAKIA <pkamakia@yahoo.com> wrote:
> bwana Birai,
> the things you say do not make much sense. They are kids. They need nappy
>
> change. they cry and holler. they cry for their mama.They pick up soil and
> put it
> on their hair.
>
>
> And later they dont want your help as they learn to do one thing at a time.
>
>
>
> Being their father makes all those things irrelevant.
>
>
> Granted women give a higher level of attention and details to the child. One
> day i found
> the child worn ten clothes to  school, looking quite round like like a
> visitor headed to the
>
> space mission. Reason being it was too cold- i was told.
>
>
> Its almost like there is a wish here that if only men were to find it hard
> and difficult
> to take care of their own children! Is that what your intention is by any
> chance or why do you
> keep pushing an agenda where there is none?
>
> Kamakia
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Pastor Absalom Birai <prbirai@gmail.com>
> To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [PK] Men as baby sitters?
>
>
> Let us try "staying home with the kids" while the wife is at work or on a
> business trip. Any time a man is left with children alone, many find it so
> challenging. Children demand or require so much- the cry and whining- I need
> this, I need that; diaper changing; the repeated question, "when is mama
> coming" and such like
>
> Today at the Drivers license office, I witnessed the struggle of one guy.
> His wife was on line waiting to renew the license. The guy was moving from
> point A to point B wondering what time the wife will be done.
>
> Generally speaking, taking care of children and their many needs is a tough
> job for men. That is why as for me, I take off the hat for women for
> managing the tough job
>
> Pastor Birai
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 2:46 PM, <samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Pastor Birai,
>>Defn for us;
>>Baby sitting
>>Fathering(parenting as a father)
>>Bringing up(kulea);
>>
>>
>>Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>________________________________
>>
>>From: PETER KAMAKIA <pkamakia@yahoo.com>
>>Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:41:09 -0700 (PDT)
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>>Subject: Re: [PK] Men as baby sitters?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>i have never felt the weight of baby sitting too. or school fees and the
>> like.
>>
>>if anything i always feel much much better and happier when i spend time
>> with
>>
>>my child.
>>
>>
>>I guess i do not know what baby sitting means.
>>
>>
>>
>>here is is me with my child www.facebook.com/pkamakia
>>My big challenge is to teach her etiquette like to say thank you to a
>> waiter.
>>
>>
>>Kamakia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>> From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
>>To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>Cc: "youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com"
>> <youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com>; VVM Vuguvugu Mashinani
>> <VuguVuguMashinani@yahoogroups.com>; "wanakenya@googlegroups.com"
>> <wanakenya@googlegroups.com>
>>Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:22 PM
>>Subject: Re: [PK] Men as baby sitters?
>>
>>Moturi,
>>
>>I imagine that the attitude you have on this issue is very normal in
>>Kenya. Not over where I stay buddie. Infact over here one of the first
>>tests a woman puts you through during the 'interview' period is put
>>you in babysitting situations and see how you fair.
>>Moturi, why would I look at being with my kids as babysitting? You
>>make it sound like work.  babysitting is a job but being with your own
>>kids is not work so should not be referred to as babysitting.
>>
>>When my kids were born, each time I took 6 months off work to be home
>>with them while the wife went to work. We shared the one-year Parental
>>leave half-half; she takes the first 6 months and I take the next. It
>>gave me a tremendous appreciation of the role of a stay-at-home
>>parent.
>>Try it if you ever get a chance.
>>
>>Courage
>>
>>
>>
>>On 10/24/12, samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk <samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Pastor,
>>> Men owe women zero.Child rearing like suckling (breast feeding) is a God
>>> given duty.a servant is not thanked for performing his duties, is that
>>> biblical?
>>> When men struggle to baby sit that is by default.
>>> Moturi
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pastor Absalom Birai <prbirai@gmail.com>
>>> Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 11:37:33
>>> To: Progressive Kenyans<progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>; Young
>>> Proffessionals<youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com>
>>> Reply-To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: [PK] Men as baby sitters?
>>>
>>> It seems to me that baby sitting is not a man thing. Much as many try to
>>> baby sit, they end up being frustrated. They spend time with the
>>> children
>>> but wondering all along as to what time the wife will return. My
>>> tribe(men)
>>> do not have the patience that is needed to baby sit.
>>>
>>> It therefore goes without saying that that the men owe women a great
>>> deal
>>> for their outstanding ability to rear
> kids.
>>>
>>> It might be nice to hear from men. Has your wife ever left you to baby
>>> sit?
>>> What was your experience like?
>>>
>>> Pastor Birai
>>> www.pastor Birai
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