Sidhani kama unachosema kama kiko sahihi, kwamba vyama ni vinamilikiwa na wasisi wake, suala ni kuwa je vyama huwa vinakuwa nataratibu za kufuata na miiko inayozuia mtu kuikiuka?
Nikawaida kwenye kundi la zaidi ya mtu mmoja mngelipenda muwe na taratibu za kufanya, hata mtu mmoja kuna vitu ambavyo usingelipenda kuvifanya ukiamini kuvifanya vitakutibulia mfumo wa shughuli zako, sasa ije iwe chama, lazima kuwe na miiko ya kutofanywa na taratibu za kufuatwa.
On Wednesday, 30 October 2013, 10:12, Magora Hassan <magorah15@gmail.com> wrote:
Marry,
Tatizo hapa ni mfumo.vyama vingi hapa nchini vipo kama taasisi binafsi na hati miliki iko mikononi mwa waasisi.ni vigumu kupata katiba itakayobeba mapinduzi ya kweli kwani fikra za mtu mmoja hazitakiwi kupingwa na atakayehoji juu ya mfumo huo atapewa jina baya kama vile msaliti,mamluki n.k. Mwigamba sio criminal ila amejaribu kugusa mfumo huo na bila shaka umeona majina anayoitwa.
Tatizo hapa ni mfumo.vyama vingi hapa nchini vipo kama taasisi binafsi na hati miliki iko mikononi mwa waasisi.ni vigumu kupata katiba itakayobeba mapinduzi ya kweli kwani fikra za mtu mmoja hazitakiwi kupingwa na atakayehoji juu ya mfumo huo atapewa jina baya kama vile msaliti,mamluki n.k. Mwigamba sio criminal ila amejaribu kugusa mfumo huo na bila shaka umeona majina anayoitwa.
Rgrds
Magora
Magora
On Oct 30, 2013 12:47 PM, "MaryGlady Heri" <mglady2@gmail.com> wrote:
-- Magora bado hujanisaidia!--2013/10/30 Magora Hassan <magorah15@gmail.com>
MargLady.
Hilo swali likipata jibu basi naamini ndilo jibu la mgogoro huu.Rgrds
MagoraOn Oct 30, 2013 12:35 PM, "MaryGlady Heri" <mglady2@gmail.com> wrote:--Kitu ambacho sijakielewa katika hii post ni kwamba is it a crime kukosoa chama chako kama kinaenda vibaya? au ni dhambi kuuliza maswali ambayo yanaumiza lakini ni kwa manufaa ya kuwekana sawa?--2013/10/30 flano mambo <flein47@yahoo.com>nimefuatilia majibu aliyotoa msemaji wa chadema yanaleta shida kidogo, alipoulizwa mwigamba kikaoni alikana kuwa yeye alirusha ile post kwenye mtandao, ila alikaa na waandishi wa habari akasema ni yake na anamaanisha kile anachokisema.
Mimi kupitia makala zake kwenye tanzania daima nimemjua mwigamba kama jembe kweli kweli na nimekua mpenzi sana wa makala zake. Lakini hata kama wewe ni mtu makini unawezakuchakachuliwa tu kwani Yuko wapi mpinzani aliyekua na heshima zote kwa kazi aliyoifanya Dr. Amani Kaborou?
Kama mtu unafuatilia vizuri upinzani wa Tanzania, kwa kila tukio utagundua kuna kundi la vijana wako chadema ni hatari kwa chama chao. Ila ngoja tuone
On Wednesday, October 30, 2013 12:11 PM, Magora Hassan <magorah15@gmail.com> wrote:
Mr Muggitu
Sina shaka juu ya chagamoto kutokea kwani kila organization yeyote huwa na muongozo,yaani katiba na mwongozo huo(katiba) waweza kuwa muarobaini au virus wanaoweza kusambaratisha umoja ktk jumuuiya hiyo.Mwigamba amezungumzia kuondolewa kwa ukomo wa kugombea uongozi ktk katiba ya chadema kitu ambacho kimsingi ndio chimbuko la kadhia ya kuonekana kuwa kuna uongozi wa kifalme ktk chadema na kuzua maswali mengi.utawala wa sheria si kutawala kwa kufuata sheria tu bali sheria zenyewe inatakiwa ziwe fare and just.sheria zikiwa na kasoro hapo ndipo demokrasia ya kweli inapotoweka na kusalia midomoni mwa watu tu.Rgrds
MagoraOn Oct 30, 2013 11:17 AM, "Zephaniah Mugittu" <zephymugittu@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:----Magora, Hassan,Tambua kuwa huwezi kuwa na jamii ndani ya cham yenye mitazamo sawa, kama mke na mume tu kuna wakati wanatofautiana tena wawili tu iweje kundi kubwa kama la CDM isipatikane migongano???? mi naona tusikimbie CHANGAMOTO... Wapo watu wenye hekima na busara kutatua migogoro hiyo... CDM wanao na wala si mara ya kwanza kutokea kama huna taarifa Ndg yangu... na ndio maana leo unaona kimekuwa imara kiasi hicho... ni kwa kuwa kimevuka VIHUNZI vingi sana!!!!!!SUCCESS IS A RESULT OF SERIES OF FAILURES... IF YOU FAIL DO NOT GIVE UP THE MORE YOU FAIL(CONFLICTS) THE MORE CLOSER TO SUCCESS THIS IS WHAT WE PEOPLE WITH BUSINESS/ENTREPRENEURAL MINDSET THINK NA NDO MAANA MAFANIKIO TUNAYATEGEMEA HATA KAMA TUNAPATA MIKWAMO....Regards,Mugittu, Zephaniah,Cell: +255 784 769 481Fax2Email: 0736605633Skype: Zephaniah N.N. MugittuNo matter how high one is talented , business acumen still a necessity"Poverty is a result of attitude ..."
On Tuesday, 29 October 2013, 10:20, steven aloys <stevenaloys05@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear wanabidiiHope everyone is doing fine,The issue of Mr, Mwigamba in Politics it has a lot of things to do and to consider, since politics is beyond what you see you need to hear also. Remember there the open agenda in politics does not imply the hidden ones but reveals to open up your mind metaphysically.The problem of many people do always make analysis of politics events with romantics rather than the attitude of reality where our judgments falls in the love and the hate of political parties.In this juncture I wish the two conflicting part within the political party one day yes should reveal the truth to the public if necessary but always you can change the truth but not the reality.Another reminder is that we should be aware that sometimes if not always people in certain group can not think the same way, can not behave the same way, can not be focused the same way, and thus is what make the contradiction principle of existence of the universe and the world,due to contradiction, therefore if you have people for instance in a political party have the same ideas, focuses ,altitude, behavior and thinking, therefore the existence of that party could be in danger.Conflicts and contradiction in any organization is inevitable BUT management of conflicts and contradiction in many organization is dilemma and problem.Steven ARISTOTLEPOLITICAL ENGINEER.
On Monday, October 28, 2013 9:13 PM, Zephaniah Mugittu <zephymugittu@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
--Tofauti zao ndio uimara wao tena mi natamani itokeee mingi tu migogoro kama hii ndani ya CDM ni kipimo na tanuru tosha kuchuja na kusafisha chama... Baada ya wasaliti nyie kutwa je chama kiliyumba??? wacheni mchezo wenu nyieeee bwana kama mtu akiteleza lazima apewwe utamu wake.
CHAMA KINAJIJENGA HAYO LAZIMA YATOKE NA YANAYATEGEMEA SANA TU KWANI BADO YAJA ZAIDI PIA HAYATISHI KIIIVYO. NCHI HAIWEZI KUWA NA CHAMA KINACHOKUA KWA KASI KUUUUBWAAA HALAFU KIKOSE MATATIZO KAMA HAYA...
Regards,Mugittu, Zephaniah,Cell: +255 784 769 481Fax2Email: 0736605633Skype: Zephaniah N.N. Mugittu
No matter how high one is talented , business acumen still a necessity"Poverty is a result of attitude ..."
On Monday, 28 October 2013, 19:13, Bollen n <gaudencia.ngetti@yahoo.com> wrote:
--From: mchangehabibuNi wazi kuwa Chadema hakiwezi kuwa tumaini la Watanzania maana ingekuwa ni tukio la kwanza lkn inavyoonekana kwa Chadema back ni "zidumu fikra za mwenyeti Mbowe". Mwigamba kaa nao chonjo wasije wakaku-Pandambili. Kimbia uokoe nafsi yako nyumba hiyo inaungua.
Sent: 28/10/2013 18:48
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Subject: [wanabidii] Samsoni mwigamba
Wakubwa.
Natanguliza pole dhati kabisa kwako mpiganaji mwigamba.
Nakupa pole kwa kuwa nawe umeingizwa kwenye kundi la wasaliti.
Kwenye chadema msaliti ni yule anayeweza kusimamia kweli na haki bila kujali reaction ya slaa Na mbowe,
CHACHA ZAKAYO WANGWE kabla hajafariki aliitwa msaliti na kwmba anatumiwa na ccm sisi tulipewa mpaka pesa tutoe tamko kumlaani(tamko alilotoa marehemu Kikoti aliyekuwa mwenyekiti wa chadema temeke kipindi cha uhai wake) japo matamko yote hayo yaliandaliwa Na mnyika na slaa.
Alipokufa hakuitwa tena msaliti, akageuka gafla na kuitwa kamanda, hata Tanzania daima nalo liliandika makala za kumsifia.
Akaja zitto kabwe naye akaitwa msaliti, na kwamba anatumika na ccm. Ni bahati tu zitto amejiwekea mizizi mikubwa sana kwa wananchi ndio maana mpaka Leo anaendelea kuwa mwanasiasa mwenye nguvu na mwenye kuaminiwa sana.
Marehemu Philip magadula shelembi aliyekuwa mwenyekiti was chadema mkoa w shinyanga naye aliitwa msaliti mpaka umauti unamkuta.
Mimi niliyekuwa nikiitwa kamanda kipindi hicho nikaja kugeuzwa kuwa msaliti namba moja baada ya wangwe Na zitto.
Mwampamba akawa msaliti Na shonza naye akawa msaliti.
Leo umeongezeka mwigamba kwenye kundi la wasaliti.
Pole sana naamini hautakuwa wa mwisho. Bado watatokea wengine wasaliti zaidi na zaidi.
Habib Mchange
Futian District,
Shenzen, GuangDong
China.
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