Ndugu zanguni,
Daima lazima tujishauri kwa kina tunapoona kiongozi aliyekuwepo siku zote gafla anatoa ushauri husiofanana na tabia yake kuhusiana na dhana ya uvumilivu wa kisiasa nchini mwake. Naomba nielimishwe kama ni kweli kuwa wanasiasa hawa walio madarakani kwa sasa Tanzania waliutoa ushauri huu kwa sasa na kwa njia ulivyotolewa wameutoa ushauri huo kwa dhamira hisiyo na shaka ya kuweko kitu kingine nyuma ya pazi. Ebu nieleze walishindwa nini kutoa ushauri huu huko nyuma, tena kimya kimya kidiplomasia kwa viongozi wanaokutana nao kila mara kwa mwavuli wa Jumuia ya Afrika Mashariki? Ushauru huu kujulikana umetolewa na wao inawapa sifa sawa lakini hii inasaidaje kutatua migogoro husika? Kwa kutoa ushauri huu kwa njia walio tumia wanatarajia kupata nini zaidi ya kusifiwa na FDLR na ADF na washabikiwa wao wa kisiasa nyumbani mabo tayari wameisha jimwanga uwanjani kwa sifa kemkemi? Waasi wa FDLR wamefurahi sana ushauri huu na jinsi ulivyotolewa na bila shaka na Wafaransa. Sasa wale wanaotumia mwanya huu kutuaminisha kuwa tuwapongeze viongozi wetu niambie tuwapongeze kwa kufanya nini? Hivi kutunishana na misuli na Rais Kagame wa Rawanda kwa njia hii iliyojitokeza inasaidianaje kuondoa migogoro inayomaliza maisha ya watu wetu sehemu hii ya Afrika? Mimi si kati ya wale wanachotwa kirahisi kwa kuimba ngojela za watu wetu wanakufa... Hivi kauli hizi za kuwafurahisha FDLR na ADF zinahuhusiano gani na kukomesha mauaji ya Waafrika hao masikini. Naomba nijulishwe? Ukitumia critical discourse analysis utagundua kinachoonekana inawezekana siyo kilichopo!!! Kuhusu M23 naomba ujielimishe zaidi kuhusu wapiganaji hawa maana ninakushangaa unaposema eti Laurent Kabila hakusaidiwa katika kuongolewa kwa Mobutu... Hawa M23 ni moto wakuotea mbali na wala uwezi kutwala DRC bila ridhaa yao....Prof Wamba di Wamba yupo hapa hapa Tanzania na ukitaka nikupeleke kwake siku moja uzungumze naye tutapanga nikiwepo Dar es Salaam, anapenda sana kuwaelimisha Waafrika na Walimwengu kuhusu mchango asi na chanya wa viongozi kadhaa wa Tanzania katika kuyaendeleza au kuyapunguza mateso ya wakongomani kwa kushabikia au kukataa kushabikia tawala mbali mbali za kimla kule Kongo kama zile za Mobutu, Laurent Kabila na sasa Joseph Kabila .
Mwl. Lwaitama
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 12:55:59 -0700
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 09:19:12 -0700
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Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 12:55:59 -0700
From: kivamwo@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Rwanda's reaction to Pres. Kikwete's statement is shochking
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Mwalimu Lwaitama!
Nikuulize maswali kidogo!!--Ilikuwaje hao waasi wa Congo ambao wewe unasisitiza kuwa ndio walimsaidia Laurent Kabila kuingia madarakani wakahitilafiana pia na:-
1. Laurent Desire Kabila--1997
2. Professor Wamba Dia Wamba (ambae wewe nakumbuka ulikuwa very close nae. Sijui yuko wape yule professort siku hizi)--1999
3. Bw Ounusumba--2000
4. Dr Ruberwa--2001
5. Laurent Nkunda--2009
6. Bosco Ntaganda--2010
Dokezo: Kumbukumbu zangu zinaniambia Laurent Desire Kabila hakusaidiwa bali mwenyewe alikuwa kiongozi wa waasi dhidi ya Mobutu wa RCD--Rally for Congolese Defense na sio M23
Pili--Hivi nikikuambia hebu patana na adui yako--hata kama ni gaidi kuna kosa gani
Tatu--Inakuwaje ushadadie Joseph Kabila kongea na waasi wa M23 lakini uone nongwa kwa Rwanda kuongea na FDLR au Uganda kuongea na Konny kama kote lengo ni kuepusha kuendelea kumwagika kwa damu za wananchi wasio na hatia bila kujali wanatoka kabila au kundi gani katika taifa husika!!
Nne--Hivi kweli Dr Lwaitama, unaweza kulinganisha uasi wa FDLR vs Rwanda sawa na CHADEMA vs CCM (Serikali ya JK)!!--mbona ni vitu tofauti!!--Kwanini unamtuhumu JK kuwa hana haki ya kuwashauri marais wenzie!! Unategemea kama si JK au Kenyatta au Pierre Kurunziza wa Burundi nani wa kutoa ushauri kwa ndugu zao katika jumuiya ya Afrika Mashariki!!
Tano--Hivi kweli Mwalimu Lwaitama--unasema Rwanda na Uganda ziachwe ziwashughulikie waasi wake vile zinavyoona na zisiingiliwe na mtu--uko serious!!--kweli unadhani zitafaulu wakati vita hizo zimekuwa zikipiganwa tangu 1990s (Uganda) na 1996 (Rwanda) lakini uasi huo unazidi kuwa sugu na wala hakuna suluhu inayopatikana--Umesema, nanukuu: "I would have thought that Tanzania should have no business telling Rwanda and Uganda how they should treat their armed political opponents, Tanzania should let Rwanda and Uganda handle their rebels they way they see fit...
From: Azaveli Lwaitama <kerezesia_mukalugaisa@hotmail.com>
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Subject: RE: [wanabidii] Rwanda's reaction to Pres. Kikwete's statement is shochking
The incumbent President of Tanzania in 2013 is head of a government whose police and intelligence operatives stand accused of abducting and torturing trade unions like Dr Ulimboka and murdering, in broad day light, journalists who are deemed to be sympathetic to the opposition party Chadema like Daudi Mwangosi. It must therefore be amusing to say the least if this is the same President who is being praised for finding the nerve to give lectures to Rwanda and Uganda about accommodating armed political opponents!!! He himself cannot stand unarmed political opponents but he wishes to tell Rwanda to talk to armed elements from the former Rwanda army who killed millions of Tutsis merely because they were Tutsi? The article on Rwanda is written is smooth and clever English but only the incorrigibly gullible would fall for it! Tanzania under Mwalimu Nyerere should not be equated to Tanzania under the current political leaders who have can hardly be said to tolerant of political opposition, even when unarmed, such as CUF previously and Chadema today. I do not believe the motivation for attacking President Kagame and Museveni stems from sympathizing with those fighting for greater democracy and more inclusive political systems in the region.
The USA, France, Belgium and the UK now do not like Kagame to be in charge in Rwanda because he is messing up their exploitative neo-colonial schemes in the DRC and they wish to overthrown Kagame. They are using some of our leaders to carry out this agenda. That is why Tanzania has now been drafted into the ridiculous fight against M23 in the DRC. The West do not want the DRC to be governed by someone who has the same attributes as Kagame. They want DRC to be governed by the likes of the son of Laurent Kabila whose attention span on matters of national importance is short. I would have thought that Tanzania should have no business telling Rwanda and Uganda how they should treat their armed political opponents, Tanzania should let Rwanda and Uganda handle their rebels they way they see fit...
It is hypocricy of the highest order for Tanzania to tell Rwanda and Uganda to talk to their rebels while the same Tanzania has not told Kenya to talk to Alshabab in Somalia, instead, Tanzania has agreed to help the UN and IGAD imposed government in Somalia to crash Alshabab because the USA does not like them!!! If Tanzania has the guts to lecture Rwanda and Uganda on instituting inclusive political leadership structures let it begin by inviting Chadema to join CCM in a government of national unity, surely, the Tanzania leadership knows it did not win the election in 2010!!! Furthermore, why is it the Tanzania Government sent armed soldiers and police to meet the Mtwara people who were demanding to be heard on the issue of transporting gas from Mtwara to Dar es Salaam..... Tanzania lecturing Rwanda and Uganda on political tolerance is a big joke and to shower praise on any Tanzanian leader who gives lectures of this kind is to engage in national jingoism. I am a Tanzania but I am ashamed of the caliber of political leadership we currently have. I suppose by all that I have written here I will not be surprised if the Tanzania governments sends someone to kill me or kidnap me and torture me, only to blame it on opposition party Chadema!! The 2015 General Elections are going to require that the ruling party in Tanzania needs lots of money tpo bribe journalists and politicians in opposition parties. The Rwanda rebels in the DRC, the remnants of the former army of Rwanda that carried out the genocide in 1994, have lots of money that they could share with those who put in a word about being included in a government of national unity in Kigali. Perhaps this may be the motivation for some politicians in the region putting in a word about political tolerance and inclusive politics, I wonder!!
Dr Lwaitama
Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 09:19:12 -0700
From: kivamwo@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Rwanda's reaction to Pres. Kikwete's statement is shochking
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Great article and msg to Rwanda
From: Ezekiel Massanja <ezekielmassanja@gmail.com>
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BRAVO BRO. YOU SAID IT ALL. OUR PRESIDENT GOT IT RIGHT. THE SPOILED CHILD SHOULD LISTEN
On Saturday, June 1, 2013, Abdalah Hamis wrote:
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On Saturday, June 1, 2013, Abdalah Hamis wrote:
--RWANDA'S REACTION TO PRESIDENT KIKWETE'S STATEMENT IS SHOCKING TO SAY THE LEAST!
On 26 May 2013 in Addis Ababa the UN Secretary General, Mr. Ban Ki-moon and the Chairperson of the African Union Commission Dr. Nkosazana Dlamini Zuma, convened the first meeting of the Regional Oversight Mechanism of the Peace, Security and Cooperation Framework for the DRC and Region.
It was at this important meeting where the President of the United Republic of Tanzania, H.E. Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete made what many level headed commentators have referred to as candid and commonsensical remarks about the protracted conflicts in the Great Lakes Region.
President Kikwete - a seasoned and consummate diplomat who has helped broker many peace deals in Africa - remarked that it was high time Rwanda and Uganda gave serious attention to peace talks with FDLR andADF rebels respectively.
He said, and correctly so, that it was evident the barrel of the gun cannot bring about the ultimate answer as testified by the recurrence of fighting in our region. He never condoned the role that the FDLR rebels played in the 1994 genocide. He was being reasonable and pragmatic.
Rwanda should know better than any other country that there is no way Tanzania would condone or sympathize with the perpetrators of genocide. To make such insinuations is, quite frankly, a demonstration of breathtaking ignorance about Tanzania's enviable and unparalleled history - the history of speaking out against any forms of crimes and injustices. Moreover, for Rwanda to make such insinuations is to show just what a short memory span this country has.
Admittedly, genocide brought about painful and unforgettable misery to the people of Rwanda but its spillover effects were felt well beyond its borders. The effects of genocide were felt right inside Tanzania which had to shoulder the burden of providing for thousands of Rwandan refugees.
By the way, Tanzania has a long history of taking good care of Rwandan refugees both before and after genocide. The sons and daughters of the Rwandan refugees benefitted from Tanzania's generous education system by studying, for free, at the country's Universities and many of them are now occupying high positions in the Government of their motherland.
So given the foregoing, I have to say that I have been taken aback by our neighbors' over-reaction to what was a completely innocuous statement by President Kikwete. Indeed, what the President said could (and should) have been said by other leaders a long time ago. What he said is a no-brainer!
It is commonsensical! Negotiations have a much better chance of resulting into durable peace than the use of force. Thus, I find the reactions from Rwanda not only disturbing but also objectionable and utterly impudent! What is even more shocking is the discourteous behavior shown by the Rwanda's Foreign Minister.
She seems to be getting too much big for her boots as to suggest that President Kikwete's statement was absurd! She even has the audacity to ask that he should retract it. If anything, I think it is our Foreign Ministry which should summon the Ambassador of Rwanda in Dar es Salaam and ask him to clarify his Minister's inadvisable utterances.
For far too long now the international community has adopted a softly softly approach with respect to Rwanda and this has meant that this tiny country gets away with literally everything, even murder. Rwanda has become like a spoiled child - untouchable and overly sensitive to everything even the slightest suggestion of censure. Rwanda has a tendency of not taking kindly any form of criticism whether from within or without. And its leadership comes across as snobbish and delusional. May be the western countries' plaudits about its so called success story have finally got into the heads of Rwandan leaders so much that they think they know it all.
For Rwanda to say that they cannot engage in talks with FDLR rebels because of their role in 1994 genocide is to allow themselves to be the captives of the past. History is replete with numerous instances of former sworn enemies burying their hatchets and extending an olive branch to one another for the sake of peaceful coexistence and future prosperity. This happened in South Africa where ANC and other progressive movements sat down with the perpetrators of one of the most brutal and inhumane policies in the history of mankind (apartheid) and agreed to work together in an inclusive and democratic society. Similarly, after many decades of committing some of the most heinous crimes against the people of Angola, UNITA is now part of the democratic government of that country. And in 2011, US and its allies initiated direct talks with some elements of the Taliban in Doha (Qatar), if my memory serves me well.
Rwanda should wake up and smell the coffee! Being delusional has not worked and won't work. It is now close to 20 yrs since the 1994 genocide and during all that time Rwanda has not been able to achieve its objectives visa vis FDLR rebels through the use of force. Any sane person in Kigali should see the wisdom of changing the tactic/strategy which is, for all purposes and intents, what our President said in the Statement. Rwanda should understand that by calling for direct talks, Tanzania does not suggest, by any stretch of imagination, that the architects and executors of genocide should go scot free. Not at all! Talks can, and indeed should, offer the mechanism of dealing with known perpetrators of genocide by isolating them from non-perpetrators such as those born after 1994. This is just one example of approaching talks. I am sure there are many others.
But talking of genocide, am I wrong in recalling that even President Kagame himself was once found to be complicit in this crime by a French Magistrate? I recall that Rwanda's reaction to this finding was, as we have come to expect, fast and furious to the extent of severing its diplomatic relations with France. Again, this goes to show that this "spoiled child" can't stand any sort of censure or straight talking. I also recall that as recent as last year a UN report revealed that Rwanda's Kagame had committed or assisted in committing genocide in DRC!
Despite all this compelling evidence, neighbors of Rwanda are still ready to engage that country in talks. Why can't Rwanda show the same attitude? And lest he forgets, Kagame himself and his RPF henchmen come from a background of rebellion. They were rebels operating from Ugandan forests before taking over power in 1994. However, despite their "rebels" status they were invited and took part in the Arusha peace process of the early 1990s.
Finally, I have a gut feeling that Rwanda doesn't want FDLR rebels to go away that's is why it is vehemently opposing the suggestion of talks which is one sure way of ending this conflict once and for all. This because, the perpetual presence of FDLR rebels in DRC gives Rwanda a convenient excuse to interfere in the DRC's affairs thereby making the country ungovernable for its own economic and geopolitical interests. I read somewhere that Rwanda's army – which is one of the biggest for a country of that economy and size - is mainly sustained by the exploitation of DRC's natural resources. So, Rwanda goes into the DRC on the pretext that it is in hot pursuit of the FDLR rebels but in actual fact what it does is to plunder the resources.
And Rwanda is particularly angry with Tanzania because by being part of MONUSCO in DRC, its misdeeds will be exposed and curtailed by our non-nonsense troops. So the over-reaction to our President's innocuous statement should not be seen in isolation. It is part of the frustration born out of the uneasy situation which Rwanda finds itself in as a result of our troops being part of the UN/SADC intervention force in DRC.
I submit.
Concerned Citizen
Source: http://www.wavuti.com/4/post/2013/06/rwandas-reaction-to-pres-kikwetes-statement-is-shochking.html#ixzz2UyWzkXxC
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