Zitto kajaribu kuweka tatizo hadharani ambalo tayari liko hadharani na kupendekeza njia nyepesi kumaliza tatizo kubwa ambalo limeishaota mizizi. Kuna mifano aliyotumia ambayo mimi namuona yeye mwenyewe kama sehemu ya tatizo analoliongelea. Ukiusoma kwa makini waraka wake unamuona kama ana upande fulani anaoutetea kama yeye alivyowataja wachangiaji wengine kwenye mitandao.
Tatizo la udini hapa kwetu ni la kufukirika na kutengenezwa zaidi kuliko uhalisia wake. Anapotoa mfano wa Mwembe chai kwamba waislamu wake kwa waume waliteswa wakaa magerezani miezi mingi bila kushitakiwa na kwamba hawakufanya lolote kwa wakristu ana maana gani? Ina maana serikali iliyowatesa ilikuwa ni ya wakristu au? Kama basi ni kuchukua hatua angesema waislamu hawakuichukulia hatua serikali anapoingiza wakristu nashindwa kumwelewa vizuri hapa.
Pili anaposema CCT inawawakilisha wakristu kuliko BAKWATA inavyowawakilisha waislamu ana uhakika na hilo? Nijuavyo mimi yapo madhehebu mengi sana ya kikristu kuliko yalivyo ya waislamu sina uhakika na representation ya kila dhehebu kwenye vyombo hivyo, kitu ambacho pia nahisi hata Zitto hana uhakika nacho. BAKWATA yawezekana ni kweli iliundwa kwa misingi isiyokubalika kwa baadhi ya waislam lakini ukakuta ni kikundi kidogo tu chenye msimamo wa kivyake ambacho pengine hakikubaliki kwa waislamu walio wengi. Kumaliza tatizo la udini hapa kwetu kunahitaji utafiti wa kina wala si hizi hear say
Tatizo la udini hapa kwetu ni la kufukirika na kutengenezwa zaidi kuliko uhalisia wake. Anapotoa mfano wa Mwembe chai kwamba waislamu wake kwa waume waliteswa wakaa magerezani miezi mingi bila kushitakiwa na kwamba hawakufanya lolote kwa wakristu ana maana gani? Ina maana serikali iliyowatesa ilikuwa ni ya wakristu au? Kama basi ni kuchukua hatua angesema waislamu hawakuichukulia hatua serikali anapoingiza wakristu nashindwa kumwelewa vizuri hapa.
Pili anaposema CCT inawawakilisha wakristu kuliko BAKWATA inavyowawakilisha waislamu ana uhakika na hilo? Nijuavyo mimi yapo madhehebu mengi sana ya kikristu kuliko yalivyo ya waislamu sina uhakika na representation ya kila dhehebu kwenye vyombo hivyo, kitu ambacho pia nahisi hata Zitto hana uhakika nacho. BAKWATA yawezekana ni kweli iliundwa kwa misingi isiyokubalika kwa baadhi ya waislam lakini ukakuta ni kikundi kidogo tu chenye msimamo wa kivyake ambacho pengine hakikubaliki kwa waislamu walio wengi. Kumaliza tatizo la udini hapa kwetu kunahitaji utafiti wa kina wala si hizi hear say
2013/5/10 denis Matanda <denis.matanda@gmail.com>
Nimekuelewa Engineer. Nikuombe kitu kimoja, huko uliko hamna dalili yoyote ya mabadiliko. Unaonaje ukijiunga na kamanda kiona Mbali, kipenzi cha wengi Zitto Kabwe huko aliko ili kuongeza nguvu mabadiliko ya kweli?Mhandisi nisamehe kama nimepiga ikulu hahahahahahaha hahahahaaaaaaaa--2013/5/10 ezekiel kunyaranyara <ekunyaranyara@yahoo.co.uk>
--Eng, MatandaYawezekana kweli kuna watu walikwisha yaona mambo haya, lakini kuyasema waziwazi kwa mfano lile la BAKWATA nakiri sijawahi kukutana nalo. Lakini lingine eng ni jinsi anavyojenga hoja yake ni kwa namna ya pekee ukilinganisha na wengine waliopo kwa sasa.K.E.M.S.From: denis Matanda <denis.matanda@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Zitto Kabwe : Taifa lina nyufaMhandisi, bila ya kuingilia uhuru wako wa kumkubali mheshimiwa Zitto, hivi ni kweli aliyoyasema kuna watu walikuwa hawajayaona?-- Send Emails to wanabidii@googlegroups.com Kujiondoa Tuma Email kwenda wanabidii+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com Utapata Email ya kudhibitisha ukishatuma Disclaimer:Everyone posting to this Forum bears the sole responsibility for any legal consequences of his or her postings, and hence statements and facts must be presented responsibly. Your continued membership signifies that you agree to this disclaimer and pledge to abide by our Rules and Guidelines.--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Wanabidii" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to wanabidii+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 3:42 PM, ezekiel kunyaranyara <ekunyaranyara@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:--
BILLEGEYA, Mussa,Twitter: @MBillegeyaFrom: ELISA MUHINGO <elisamuhingo@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Zitto Kabwe : Taifa lina nyufaLo! Nani hakuelewa hotuba hii? Swala la BAKWATA mbona kaliweka sawa? Natumaini anayetaka ukweli amegundua. Ni swala la kukubali tu.----------Sent from my Nokia Phone------Original message------From: Abdalah Hamis <hamisznz@gmail.com>To: "Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>Date: Wednesday, May 8, 2013 11:16:33 AM GMT+0300Subject: [wanabidii] Zitto Kabwe : Taifa lina nyufaNDUGU KABWE Z. ZITTO, MB – BUNGENI TAREHE 6 MEI, 2013Mheshimiwa Mwenyekiti, nakushukuru sana kwa kunipa nafasi ili niwezekuchangia leo katika mjadala huu muhimu sana.Hapa Afrika kulikuwa kuna nchi, na bado ipo, inaitwa Ivory Coast. Ilikuwani nchi ambayo inasifika sana kwa amani na utulivu; na ilikuwa ni nchi yakupigiwa mfano. Leo hii Ivory Coast imegawanyika vipande vipande. Ukiendaleo Ivory Coast unakuta wanaoitwa Ivorite na wanaoitwa wageni ambao wazaziwao walienda Ivory Coast kufanya kazi miaka mingi sana. Lakini pili katikamgawanyiko huo kuna mgawanyiko mkubwa sana wa kidini kati ya watu wa IvoryCoast wanaotokea Kaskazini na watu wa Ivory Coast wanaotokea Kusini.Mheshimiwa Mwenyekiti, tulikuwa tuna Sierra Leone nchi ambayo wageniwalikuwa wanakirimiwa katika hali ambayo haijawahi kutokea hapa duniani.Lakini leo Sierra Leone ina rekodi kubwa sana ya watu wenye ulemavu kwasababu ya vita ya wenyewe kwa wenyewe.Naomba nichukue nafasi hii kufuatia matukio ambayo yametokea hivi karibunina hasa jana na siku zilizopita ninanukuu hotuba ambayo Rais wa Awamu yaTatu Mheshimiwa Benjamin Mkapa aliitoa katika Bunge hili tarehe 4 Novemba,1998. Alisema:"Mr. Speaker, after three years of my presidency, I can dare to modify thewords of famous Zanzibar maestro Siti Binti Saada by saying, Tanzania is agood country, let one who wishes to come do so. God has showered blessingson our country. It is a country of unity, peace, love, rejoicing andexciding generosity. It is a country of people who love equality andjustice. Our national unity brings from our firm believe in equality ofhuman beings before God and before the Law. A Unity reinforced by correctpolicies of national building. Policies based on the principles of socialjustice, peace, harmony and development for all. A unity which is extrasensitive to policies, statements behavour and actions which may sore seedsdiscard hatred and suspicious among Tanzanias"Mheshimiwa Mwenyekiti sitatafsiri. Lakini naomba kila Mbunge ajiulize leoiwapo Rais Mkapa tukimpa fursa ya kuja kuhutubia Bunge hili anawezaakayatumia maneno haya tena? Hakuna mtanzania yoyote anayeweza kuthubutuleo kutumia maneno haya tena kwa sababu nchi yetu ina nyufa. Ina nyufaambazo kwa kujua au kwa kutokujua sisi kama watu ambao tumepewa wajibi nawananchi wa kuitunza nchi hii na kuipeleka pamoja tumejikuta tukiingiakatika kutoa kauli, maneno na vitendo ambavyo ni "irresponsible"vinavyopelekea kugawanya nchi; na yanayotokea sasa ni matumizi ya nyufahizo.Asubuhi hapa Mheshimiwa Lissu amesema, ametoa rekodi ya namna ambavyowanasiasa wa chama kinachoongoza (CCM) wamekuwa wakitoa kauli dhidi yavyama vya upinzani kuhusiana na masuala haya ya kidini. Wametoa mfanokuhusu chama cha CUF kilipoitwa chama cha waislam, wamekitolea mfano kuhusuCHADEMA kinavyoitwa mpaka sasa chama cha wakristo.Mheshimiwa Mwenyekiti, inawezekana ikawa ni rahisi sana tuka-"pointfingers" kwa wenzetu nyie, ni rahisi sana; lakini CUF wakati wanaitwa nichama cha waislam ambao walikuwa hawaitwi ni chama cha waislamhawakunyoosha mkono kupinga. Wakati CHADEMA kinaitwa cha cha Kikristo ambaohawaitwi hivyo hawakunyoosha mkono. Matokeo yakeni nini? Tumejenga hofukubwa sana katika Taifa na hii ni lawama kwa wote. Wote kama nchi ilituseme kwamba hapa tumekosea na tuanze upya.Mheshimiwa Mwenyekiti, adui anapokuja kwenye nyumba anaangalia ni wapiambapo ni rahisi kamba kukatika. Tumeji-"expose", tumejiweka wazi. Leo mtuanayetaka kuishughulikia Tanzania ata-deal na udini tu. Kwa sababu anajuawatanzania hivi sasa wamegawanyika katika misingi hiyo. Jana limetokeatukio Arusha, angalia kwenye mitandao ya kijamii mara moja watanzaniawenyewe kwa wenyewe na ukiangalia majina ya watu wanaojadiliana wanaanzakusemana kwa dini zao. Ndiyo hatari ambayo tumeifikia; na ndio anachokitakaadui. Ni hicho. Atakuja, wanaitwa "Agent Provacateur", watapiga, mtabakimnagombana ninyi. Tukiruhusu NYUFA hizi ziendelee hatutakuwa taifa. Nilazima sote kwa pamoja tusimame imara.Mheshimiwa Mwenyekiti, waislam na wakristo nchi hii hawana chuki kwa sababuwanaishi pamoja, ni marafiki, ni ndugu na kama ingekuwa kwa mfano waislamwanawachukia wakristo waislam wangevunja makanisa au wangechoma makanisa auwangewalipua wakristo. Wakati wa tukio la Mwembechai ndipo ambapo Polisiwaliingia mskitini wakaua watu, wanawake wakateswa kwenye magereza nakadhalika, watu wakakaa miezi mitano gerezani bila kushtakiwa lakinihapakuwa na mtukio yoyote ya namna hii. Waislam na wakristo wa nchi hii niwamoja. Wananchi wetu ni wa moja lakini sisi viongozi kwa kutoa kauliambazo ni "very irresponsible" tunawagawa watu wetu na ni lazima tukataehali hii. Tunafanya nini?Mheshimiwa Mwenyekiti, lazima twende mbele. Kwanza ni lazima sasa Serikaliijenge utamaduni wa kufuatilia "grievances" zote ambazo wananchi wanazobila kujali dini zao. Pili turuhusu watu kuwa huru kusema. Nimesikia hapawatu wanasema kwamba maandamano ni tatizo nakadhalika. Maandamano sitatizo, ukimzuia mtu kuandamana akiweka hasira zake kesho atafanya nini?Atatoka na bomu. Turuhusu "honest discussions" miongoni mwetu kama wananchi.Mheshimiwa Mwenyekiti, tatu ni lazima sasa tuseme ya kwamba ni marufukukuwa na kauli za chuki "hate speeches". Kama hatuna vipengele vya kisheriatutunge sheria kwa sababu kumekuwa na "hate speeches" nyingi sana katikahii nchi na hakuna hatua ambazo zinachukuliwa.Mheshimiwa Mwenyekiti, state, dola, ihakikishe inajiondoa kwenye shughuliza uendeshaji wa mambo ya kidini. Ijiondoe kabisa. Kwa mfano kuna lawama yamuda mrefu sana ya waislam kuhusu BAKWATA, Waislamu miaka mingi toka mwaka1969 wakati Serikali imeunda BAKWATA wanalalamika. Leo hii Serikali ikitakakuzungumza na waislam inafanya nini? Inaenda kuwaita BAKWATA. Hawanalegitimacy ya waislam, hamtaweza ku-addres masuala ya waislam lakini nirahisi sana kuweza kuongea na CCT kwa sababu CCT ni chombo ambacho kinauhuru wake. Kwa hiyo Serikali ijiondoe kwenye uendesheji wa shughuli zakidini. Hapa ndipo tutakapoweza kuhakikisha kwamba tunakuwa na nchi mojanchi ambayo ina amani.Mheshimiwa Mwenyekiti, namaliza kwa kusema nchi hii si ya waislam pekeyake, nchi hii si ya wakristo peke yake. Nchi hii si ya CCM au ya CHADEMA,CUF au ya NCCR-Mageuzi au TLP na kadhalika. Nchi hii ni moja, nchi hii niya Jamhuiri ya Muungano wa Tanzania. Lazima wote tusimame kuhakikishatunailinda Jamhuri ya Muungano wa TanzaniaMheshimiwa Mwenyekiti, nakushuru sana asante.-- Send Emails to wanabidii@googlegroups.comKujiondoa Tuma Email kwenda wanabidii+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com Utapata Email ya kudhibitisha ukishatumaDisclaimer:Everyone posting to this Forum bears the sole responsibility for any legal consequences of his or her postings, and hence statements and facts must be presented responsibly. 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