Wednesday 1 May 2013

Re: [wanabidii] AIBUUU.... PADRI WA KANISA KATOLIKI HUKO MOSHI AFUMANIWA LIVE NA MKE WA MTU AKIWA UCHI WA MNYAMA

Ndoa huleta utulivu wa nafsi, hufanya nafsi kutulia, mi naona
waruhusiwe kuoa ili nafsi Zao zipate utulivu, lasivyo kila siku mapapa
na maaskofu wataomba radhi juu vitendo hivyo, tena bora huyo katafuta
wakumliwaza kuliko wengine hulawiti mpaka watoto. wanafanywa kuishi
kiutakatifu wakati utakatifu hauzuii kuoa.

On 5/1/13, richard bahati <ribahati@gmail.com> wrote:
> <http://www.searchquotes.com/quotation/Truth_is_the_beginning_of_every_good_thing%2C_both_in_heaven_and_on_earth%3B_and_he_who_would_be_blessed/14149/>
> <http://www.searchquotes.com/quotation/Truth_is_the_beginning_of_every_good_thing%2C_both_in_heaven_and_on_earth%3B_and_he_who_would_be_blessed/14149/>
>
> **<http://www.searchquotes.com/quotation/Truth_is_the_beginning_of_every_good_thing%2C_both_in_heaven_and_on_earth%3B_and_he_who_would_be_blessed/14149/>
> *Truth is the beginning of every good thing, both in heaven and on earth;
> and he who would be blessed and happy should be from the first a partaker
> of truth, for then he can be
> trusted<http://www.searchquotes.com/quotation/Truth_is_the_beginning_of_every_good_thing%2C_both_in_heaven_and_on_earth%3B_and_he_who_would_be_blessed/14149/>:
> Plato*
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Hermengild Mayunga
> <drmayunga@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Tatizo kwa Baba Padre ni Kwamba amevunja Amri ya kumi na Moja (The
>> eleventh Comandments) "Though Shall Not Be Caught"...........USIKAMATWE,
>> Wengi wao zile Kumi wameona ni nyingi sana sasa wamekuwa waaminifu walau
>> kwa hii moja ya Kumi na moja. Angetunza hiyo bado Tungendelea kumuona
>> Baba
>> Padre Mwema.
>>
>> Basi Bahati mbaya Atafanya Sakrament ya Kitubio, Ila Next time awe
>> Mwaminifu katika Eleventh Commandments.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Vincent Mhangwa
>> <vmhangwa@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Kimsingi huyo Padre kafanya dhambi tena kwa aibu. Kama angefanya fanya
>>> kimyax2 tusingefahamu. Lakini KUOA au KUTOOA si issue. Nakumbuka hapa
>>> inchini kuna Mchungaji aliyeoa aliwahi fumaniwa na mke wa mtu, tena
>>> akachomwa kisu SEMBUSE HUYU AMBAYE HANA MKE KABISA. Sisi wenyewe tuliooa
>>> na
>>> tulioolewa na siyo mapadre pengine tumewahi au tunaendelea kufanya ngono
>>> na
>>> watu ambao sio wenzi wetu wa ndoa. Tunafanya dhambi! Dhambi ni tabia ya
>>> ubinadamu kwakuwa binadamu hana ukamilifu. Hii ni aibu ya Padre huyu na
>>> anastahili kupewa adhabu kwa taratibu za Kanisa.
>>> Vin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Reuben Mwandumbya
>>> <ipyana75@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Comrade Magobe;
>>>> Exactly I am with you,kushindwa kwa mtu kufikia standards sio sababu au
>>>> kipimo cha kubadili standards.
>>>> Kashindwa yeye kuwa Mkatoliki sio wameshindwa wote,hii hulka yetu ya
>>>> ku-generalize issues ni proof nzuri ya '*uvivu wa kufikiri'.*
>>>> Ni kama vile watoto wamefeli mtihani basi jawabu ni kupunguza maksi za
>>>> ufaulu!! Huo ni uhuni wa fikra.
>>>> Big plus Braza Magobe.
>>>>
>>>> Reuben
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Telesphor Magobe <tmagobe@gmail.com>
>>>> *To:* wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, April 29, 2013 5:26 PM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [wanabidii] AIBUUU.... PADRI WA KANISA KATOLIKI HUKO
>>>> MOSHI AFUMANIWA LIVE NA MKE WA MTU AKIWA UCHI WA MNYAMA
>>>>
>>>> Padri akizini siyo kwamba jawabu lake ni kuoa maana aliyeoa akizini
>>>> jawabu lake si kuwa padre au mseja. Inapotokea padre kazini au aliyeoa
>>>> kazini (nje ya ndoa) inaonesha kwamba huu ni wito na kuna wanaofaulu
>>>> na kuna wanaofeli. Hata kwenye kazi zingine - kuna wanaoweza na kuna
>>>> wasioweza na si sahihi kwamba mtu akishindwa kutimiza wajibu wake basi
>>>> kazi nzima ibadilishwe muundo wake. Hapa nasema kwa wale wanaopenda
>>>> kutoa majibu mepesi kwamba kwa vile baadhi ya mapadri wanazini basi
>>>> mapadri wote waoe as if katika waliooa wote hakuna anayezini (nje ya
>>>> ndoa). Imani ni kuona "kichaka kinawaka moto lakini bila kuteketea"
>>>> (Musa), "Nabii Yona kukaa ndani ya tumbo la samaki siku tatu lakini
>>>> bila kutafunwa", "Yesu kuzaliwa bila kuwa na physical baba", "kufa na
>>>> kisha kufufuka", Mungu kuwa "transcendent" na 'immanent", "kubadili
>>>> maji kuwa divai"... imani is "to see beyond the horizon."
>>>>
>>>> On 4/29/13, Joseph Beda Rupia <rupia.joseph@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Asante kaka Reginald nimeiona hahahahaha! nilichanganyikiwa, unajua
>>>> tena
>>>> > Ukatoliki wangu!!!
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 5:47 AM, Maurice Oduor
>>>> > <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Ayiiii !!!!! Mtume !!!!! Aibu kupita kipimo mjomba !!!!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Mombasa karibu kila padri kaoa kisiri, kumba kwa jirani yetu TZ nako
>>>> >> zaendelea dhambi hizi !!! Salaaaaleh !!!!!!
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Courage
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Joseph Beda Rupia
>>>> >> <rupia.joseph@gmail.com
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> Richard, iweke full story tuipate
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 5:36 AM, denis Matanda
>>>> >>> <denis.matanda@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Wazinzi wanaheshimika kwenye vijiwe vyao vya
>>>> >>>> wazinzi........................
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Reginald Miruko
>>>> >>>> <rsmiruko@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>> Mzinifu yeyote aheshimiki hata kama si padri.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> RSM
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On 29 April 2013 15:07, richard bahati <ribahati@gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Nimeshindwa kuiweka hii story katika blogu yangu kwa kuwa
>>>> ninaamini
>>>> >>>>>> aliyofundisha St. Francis na ningependa na wewe usome na pengine
>>>> >>>>>> uamini
>>>> >>>>>> kama mimi. Watumishi wa Mungu ni wa kuombea kwa kuwa wanakutana
>>>> >>>>>> na
>>>> >>>>>> vishawishi vingi sana na pengine kwa nguvu zao wenyewe si wote
>>>> >>>>>> wanaweza
>>>> >>>>>> kutimiza yote yanayoagizwa juu yao. Ni kama askari walio mstari
>>>> >>>>>> wa
>>>> >>>>>> mbele
>>>> >>>>>> vitani, wanaonekana haraka na kwa kuwa ni hatari zaidi kwa adui
>>>> >>>>>> (shetani)
>>>> >>>>>> wanakuwa kwenye nafasi ya kushambuliwa zaidi kuliko wengine.
>>>> >>>>>> Hata
>>>> >>>>>> hivyo
>>>> >>>>>> hiyo sio kisingizio cha kutimiza ahadi zao, bado wana option ya
>>>> kuamua
>>>> >>>>>> kama
>>>> >>>>>> Mtume Paulo alivyosema, anayeweza kuishi kama mimi na aishi, na
>>>> >>>>>> asiyeweza
>>>> >>>>>> basi na aoe.
>>>> >>>>>> Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them
>>>> >>>>>> to
>>>> >>>>>> stay unmarried, as I do. But if they cannot control themselves,
>>>> they
>>>> >>>>>> should
>>>> >>>>>> marry (*1 Corinthians
>>>> >>>>>> 7:8-9*)<
>>>> http://www.google.co.tz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.biblegateway.com%2Fpassage%2F%3Fsearch%3D1%2BCorinthians%2B7%253A8-9%26version%3DNIV&ei=wlt-UZvvA4rdswbYooBI&usg=AFQjCNHNw54BnKCOrm-nE_6SjqV54GfoGQ&bvm=bv.45645796,d.Yms
>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>> How could anyone respect a sinful priest?! St. Francis
>>>> >>>>>> did!<http://stfrancisspeaks.blogspot.com/2010/01/st.html>
>>>> >>>>>> St. Francis wanted all of his brothers to honor and lovingly
>>>> >>>>>> obey
>>>> all
>>>> >>>>>> members of the clergy, especially priests who have, as St. Paul
>>>> said,
>>>> >>>>>> 'the
>>>> >>>>>> responsibility of watching over your souls'. Francis' rationale
>>>> for
>>>> >>>>>> honoring the clergy is based on the fact that it is GOD that has
>>>> >>>>>> decided to
>>>> >>>>>> act through them . . . to bring Christ back into the world
>>>> >>>>>> physically,
>>>> >>>>>> during the Mass, and HE ALWAYS deserves our honor and respect!
>>>> >>>>>> .........
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> http://goldentz.blogspot.com/2013/04/aibuuu-padri-wa-kanisa-katoliki-huko.html
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