Saturday, 7 June 2014

[wanabidii] RE: [PK] RAILA ODINGA wants the Police headed by a Scottish and IEBC Chair from US or UK.

Good People,


You have no idea how most white foreign hate blacks.  Until that attitude is changed, there is nothing good to be expected except, they will take advantage of any opening to drive Africans out of Africa.  Tom Mboya did well because he had good motives of shared responsibilities and service to his Nation and Africa in general.  Treat whites as Partners for development not masters. Otherwise, most of them are greedy and self-centred, just like some Africans leadership the reason why Africa and Africans are behind yet Africa has the most and best wealth and resources the whole world need.  What is lacking is simple calculus.  Raila's motives are not those of the People who voted for him, the little they tasted, should be reasons enough to open their eyes wide with food of thought.  You should never put a hyena in the same den with chickens and expect positive good results.


The people must wake up to demand services, responsibilities, credibility with checks and balances through transparency and accountabilities.  Leaders who fail to measure, like Raila, should not be given any opportunity unless he face the people to accounts and by legal channels get a legitimate clearance why certain things happen the way they did to build confidence and not to base on shrouded make believe.  The people must be certified with the proof Public Trust must be guaranteed. Unfortunately,  Africans lack reality check which comes from the people themselves who hire leaders to public offices.  Mostly we have corrupt and confused lots who do the bid for poor Africans unaware they have been put on Auction.  Has anyone bothered to ask what Raila was doing in Boston?  Why accommodate lies that Raila had Tea with Obama.  That is a white lie…………Why cant you ask why Raila is back with steam to cause chaos instead of peace and with
backwards
proposal, did he eat some peoples money and promised them jobs from Boston yet he is not in power?  What happened?  Why did Obama's name feature at Jakoyo's talk at Jeff Koinange's bench when in Reality while Raila was in three months visit to USA, he never stepped at "The White House" for Tea, nor did Obama meet with him in seclusion of Boston where an opportunity by the US Media was missed.  Leaders whose lead agents lie this much have no business to be taken in Trust over Public matters. 


On the other hand, an extensive Civic Education is crucially necessary for Kenya to build its  capacity on Social, Economic and Political landscape to be able to face and compete at par with the world.......just like Africa has the wealth and natural resources the world needs, manpower resource are as well lucrative and are in high demand, they must be put to good use in the downloadable digital set-up. Organization is therefore crucial.......Instead of moving backwards, we should instead be moving forward negotiating at the Global Emerging Market-Place, the kind of knowledge Raila and team also lacks..........and they are selling products to public that are non productive, non progressive, non sustaining and are not security safe; instead they are pollutants and very poisonous and dangerous for public consumption......take care!!!!


You try put foreigners in position of authority to rule your mind, you will be in for a rude shock.  Start by asking Malawi after episode with former British President Tony Blair as advisor, how well they did.......



Cheers !!!




Judy Miriga
Diaspora Spokesperson
Executive Director
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
USA
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com


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On Sat, 6/7/14, account146w qt4 <account146w@hotmail.com> wrote:

Subject: RE: [PK] RAILA ODINGA wants the Police headed by a Scottish and IEBC Chair from US or UK.
To: "progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com" <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, June 7, 2014, 9:13 AM




I said it earlier and will repeat it
now: AFRICANS GOT INDEPENDENCE PREMATURELY. Next time we
africans should be  very careful about what we wish
for. How can a foreigner lead institutions in Kenya?. Under
which constitution is that ?. If there is a mistrust in the
IEBC as it has been; Why can´t we Kenyans call the united
nations (UN) to organise and lead a peaceful election in
2017?. It has been done in many countries with disputes and
ended up very successfully.
Our constitution does not allow even a kenyan
with dual citizenship to hold some higher offices in Kenya:
the state house is prohibited even for a kenyan with dual
citizenship. So how can a ``gnu`` who is not a kenyan be
given all those post Midiwo and So and so are claiming to be
occupied by foreigners?. Let us all be realistic with life
you people. Just talking because words are coming from the
mouth is not the way to solve problems in kenya today.

Date: Fri, 6 Jun
2014 23:08:08 -0400
Subject: Re: [PK] RAILA ODINGA wants the Police headed by a
Scottish and IEBC Chair from US or UK.
From: mauricejoduor@gmail.com
To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com

Judy,
Please don't play propaganda with this
issue. 
We all know very well that there are areas in
Kenya such as policing that still need a lot of training in
order to become what we're familiar with as modern
policing. We just don't have anyone qualified enough to
reform our police system.
Maybe we need foreign experts for a while.
If we had a real expert police chief in Kenya in
1990, Ouko's murder would have been solved. No one would
have told us something as stupid as Ouko breaking both of
his own knees, shooting himself in the head and then setting
himself on fire and still placing his gun 5 metres away from
his body !!!!

In other words Judy, we may have qualified people
in key positions but they are so corrupt and wakabila to the
point that we may actually do better with foreigners who are
neutral with respect to tribe, thus, not
corrupt. 

Courage


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On Fri, Jun 6, 2014
at 10:48 PM, 'Judy Miriga' via Progressive Kenyans
<progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
wrote:



Karanja Goro,


 
It is the first time I read of you, but I must say that, you
are spot on.

 
Raila and Jakoyo speaks for themselves and not for the
people of Kenya.

Both can go to preach to the birds or the animals in the
bush.  Both have

no idea the meaning of freedom struggle, rights and liberty.
They are

after their stomach.  If they cant get what they want,
then nothing else

makes sense.  If both are not schooled, then they
should know that Kenya

has a great number of highly educated, honest and reliable
who are smarter

and more intelligent capable of delivering public mandate.
Why give a

foreigner a job when local educated, honest and reliable can
do the same

sometimes even better.





How on earth can a thief know the price and value of an
asset he stole

without rightfully paying from own fair earnings?







Judy Miriga

Diaspora Spokesperson

Executive Director

Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,

USA

http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com







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On Fri, 6/6/14, Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
wrote:



 Subject: Re: [PK] Re: RAILA ODINGA wants the Police
headed by a Scottish and IEBC Chair from US or UK.

 To: "Progressive Kenyans" <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>

 Date: Friday, June 6, 2014, 4:52 PM



 The constitution can

 only work if the leaders obey it.

 Right now the constitution calls for the civil

 service appointments to reflect the face of

 Kenya. Are Uhuru and Ruto obeying that

 provision? Are they?



 Courage





 On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at

 3:55 PM, karanja goro <ka_goro@hotmail.com>

 wrote:









 All,



 Just wondering how does Midiwo and all who are calling
for

 foreigners expect us to explain to my grand mother
who

 fought for independence that we want to bring back
the

 mubeberu. This talk of bringing back the wabeberus to
me

 looks to an un viable option. We need to look for
solution

 based on the constitution-which we were told was a
panacea

 to most of our problems.





  KG



 Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 13:41:40
-0400

 Subject: [PK] Re: RAILA ODINGA wants the Police headed
by a

 Scottish and IEBC Chair from US or UK.

 From: mauricejoduor@gmail.com



 To: wanakenya@googlegroups.com

 CC: VuguVuguMashinani@yahoogroups.com;

 progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com;

 Kiswahili@yahoogroups.com





 I agree with Midiwo.

 If these positions are held by Kenyans they will

 be held or controlled by one community, a recipe for

 corruption and rigging.



 Courage









 On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:28 PM, maina ndiritu <litshooz@gmail.com>

 wrote:



 Friday June 6, 2014 - Former Prime

 Minister, Raila Odinga, has



 continued with his onslaught on the Independent
Electoral

 and



 Boundaries Commission (IEBC) saying the commission
should be

 disbanded



 and foreigners appointed to head the Commission.







 Addressing Eastleigh residents as he made a solidarity
tour

 of the



 area which has made headlines over terror attacks,
Raila

 said IEBC



 should be headed by somebody from America or United
Kingdom

 because



 Kenyans have lost faith with Kenyans heading the

 Commission.







 He also said the Inspector General of Police post
should

 also be



 occupied by a foreigner in order for Kenyans to regain
their

 trust



 with the police force.







 Raila's assertions come a day after Gem MP and
Deputy

 Leader of



 Minority in Parliament, Jakoyo Midiwo, said all key

 institutions in



 Government should be chaired by foreigners.







 Midiwo said the Attorney General, the Chief Justice,
the

 IEBC Chair,



 the IG should all be foreigners to avoid rigging of

 elections in



 favour of the Jubilee coalition.















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 , we are fellow passengers on the same planet and
dwell

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individual

 endeavours to reach



 the ultimate truth ? the riddle of existence is too
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