Saturday, 7 June 2014

[wanabidii] Re: [Mabadiliko] RE: [PK] RAILA ODINGA wants the Police headed by a Scottish and IEBC Chair from US or UK.

Judy,

1.  I stopped reading your piece after 1 paragraph when I noticed that Raila was your theme yet again.

2. There are areas in Kenya that we lack expertise/neutrality in. Policing is one. Elections is the other. 
We should bring in some foreigners who can give us training to transform our police force into something modern and competent, and not corrupt. 
Our judges, including the Chief Justice, can be foreigners. Why can't our police?

We can also bring in the UN to run our elections since we've proven ourselves incapable of doing it.

Courage



On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:00 AM, 'Judy Miriga' via Mabadiliko Forum <mabadilikotanzania@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Good People,


You have no idea how most white foreign hate blacks.  Until that attitude is changed, there is nothing good to be expected except, they will take advantage of any opening to drive Africans out of Africa.  Tom Mboya did well because he had good motives of shared responsibilities and service to his Nation and Africa in general.  Treat whites as Partners for development not masters. Otherwise, most of them are greedy and self-centred, just like some Africans leadership the reason why Africa and Africans are behind yet Africa has the most and best wealth and resources the whole world need.  What is lacking is simple calculus.  Raila's motives are not those of the People who voted for him, the little they tasted, should be reasons enough to open their eyes wide with food of thought.  You should never put a hyena in the same den with chickens and expect positive good results.


The people must wake up to demand services, responsibilities, credibility with checks and balances through transparency and accountabilities.  Leaders who fail to measure, like Raila, should not be given any opportunity unless he face the people to accounts and by legal channels get a legitimate clearance why certain things happen the way they did to build confidence and not to base on shrouded make believe.  The people must be certified with the proof Public Trust must be guaranteed. Unfortunately,  Africans lack reality check which comes from the people themselves who hire leaders to public offices.  Mostly we have corrupt and confused lots who do the bid for poor Africans unaware they have been put on Auction.  Has anyone bothered to ask what Raila was doing in Boston?  Why accommodate lies that Raila had Tea with Obama.  That is a white lie…………Why cant you ask why Raila is back with steam to cause chaos instead of peace and with
 backwards
 proposal, did he eat some peoples money and promised them jobs from Boston yet he is not in power?  What happened?  Why did Obama's name feature at Jakoyo's talk at Jeff Koinange's bench when in Reality while Raila was in three months visit to USA, he never stepped at "The White House" for Tea, nor did Obama meet with him in seclusion of Boston where an opportunity by the US Media was missed.  Leaders whose lead agents lie this much have no business to be taken in Trust over Public matters. 


On the other hand, an extensive Civic Education is crucially necessary for Kenya to build its  capacity on Social, Economic and Political landscape to be able to face and compete at par with the world.......just like Africa has the wealth and natural resources the world needs, manpower resource are as well lucrative and are in high demand, they must be put to good use in the downloadable digital set-up. Organization is therefore crucial.......Instead of moving backwards, we should instead be moving forward negotiating at the Global Emerging Market-Place, the kind of knowledge Raila and team also lacks..........and they are selling products to public that are non productive, non progressive, non sustaining and are not security safe; instead they are pollutants and very poisonous and dangerous for public consumption......take care!!!!


You try put foreigners in position of authority to rule your mind, you will be in for a rude shock.  Start by asking Malawi after episode with former British President Tony Blair as advisor, how well they did.......



Cheers !!!




Judy Miriga
Diaspora Spokesperson
Executive Director
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
USA
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com


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On Sat, 6/7/14, account146w qt4 <account146w@hotmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: RE: [PK] RAILA ODINGA wants the Police headed by a Scottish and IEBC Chair from US or UK.
 To: "progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com" <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Saturday, June 7, 2014, 9:13 AM




 I said it earlier and will repeat it
 now: AFRICANS GOT INDEPENDENCE PREMATURELY. Next time we
 africans should be  very careful about what we wish
 for. How can a foreigner lead institutions in Kenya?. Under
 which constitution is that ?. If there is a mistrust in the
 IEBC as it has been; Why can´t we Kenyans call the united
 nations (UN) to organise and lead a peaceful election in
 2017?. It has been done in many countries with disputes and
 ended up very successfully.
 Our constitution does not allow even a kenyan
 with dual citizenship to hold some higher offices in Kenya:
 the state house is prohibited even for a kenyan with dual
 citizenship. So how can a ``gnu`` who is not a kenyan be
 given all those post Midiwo and So and so are claiming to be
 occupied by foreigners?. Let us all be realistic with life
 you people. Just talking because words are coming from the
 mouth is not the way to solve problems in kenya today.

 Date: Fri, 6 Jun
 2014 23:08:08 -0400
 Subject: Re: [PK] RAILA ODINGA wants the Police headed by a
 Scottish and IEBC Chair from US or UK.
 From: mauricejoduor@gmail.com
 To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com

 Judy,
 Please don't play propaganda with this
 issue. 
 We all know very well that there are areas in
 Kenya such as policing that still need a lot of training in
 order to become what we're familiar with as modern
 policing. We just don't have anyone qualified enough to
 reform our police system.
 Maybe we need foreign experts for a while.
 If we had a real expert police chief in Kenya in
 1990, Ouko's murder would have been solved. No one would
 have told us something as stupid as Ouko breaking both of
 his own knees, shooting himself in the head and then setting
 himself on fire and still placing his gun 5 metres away from
 his body !!!!

 In other words Judy, we may have qualified people
 in key positions but they are so corrupt and wakabila to the
 point that we may actually do better with foreigners who are
 neutral with respect to tribe, thus, not
 corrupt. 

 Courage


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 On Fri, Jun 6, 2014
 at 10:48 PM, 'Judy Miriga' via Progressive Kenyans
 <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:



 Karanja Goro,


 
 It is the first time I read of you, but I must say that, you
 are spot on.

 
 Raila and Jakoyo speaks for themselves and not for the
 people of Kenya.

 Both can go to preach to the birds or the animals in the
 bush.  Both have

 no idea the meaning of freedom struggle, rights and liberty.
 They are

 after their stomach.  If they cant get what they want,
 then nothing else

 makes sense.  If both are not schooled, then they
 should know that Kenya

 has a great number of highly educated, honest and reliable
 who are smarter

 and more intelligent capable of delivering public mandate.
 Why give a

 foreigner a job when local educated, honest and reliable can
 do the same

 sometimes even better.





 How on earth can a thief know the price and value of an
 asset he stole

 without rightfully paying from own fair earnings?







 Judy Miriga

 Diaspora Spokesperson

 Executive Director

 Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,

 USA

 http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com







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 On Fri, 6/6/14, Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
 wrote:



  Subject: Re: [PK] Re: RAILA ODINGA wants the Police
 headed by a Scottish and IEBC Chair from US or UK.

  To: "Progressive Kenyans" <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>

  Date: Friday, June 6, 2014, 4:52 PM



  The constitution can

  only work if the leaders obey it.

  Right now the constitution calls for the civil

  service appointments to reflect the face of

  Kenya. Are Uhuru and Ruto obeying that

  provision? Are they?



  Courage





  On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at

  3:55 PM, karanja goro <ka_goro@hotmail.com>

  wrote:









  All,



  Just wondering how does Midiwo and all who are calling
 for

  foreigners expect us to explain to my grand mother
 who

  fought for independence that we want to bring back
 the

  mubeberu. This talk of bringing back the wabeberus to
 me

  looks to an un viable option. We need to look for
 solution

  based on the constitution-which we were told was a
 panacea

  to most of our problems.





   KG



  Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 13:41:40
 -0400

  Subject: [PK] Re: RAILA ODINGA wants the Police headed
 by a

  Scottish and IEBC Chair from US or UK.

  From: mauricejoduor@gmail.com



  To: wanakenya@googlegroups.com

  CC: VuguVuguMashinani@yahoogroups.com;

  progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com;

  Kiswahili@yahoogroups.com





  I agree with Midiwo.

  If these positions are held by Kenyans they will

  be held or controlled by one community, a recipe for

  corruption and rigging.



  Courage









  On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:28 PM, maina ndiritu <litshooz@gmail.com>

  wrote:



  Friday June 6, 2014 - Former Prime

  Minister, Raila Odinga, has



  continued with his onslaught on the Independent
 Electoral

  and



  Boundaries Commission (IEBC) saying the commission
 should be

  disbanded



  and foreigners appointed to head the Commission.







  Addressing Eastleigh residents as he made a solidarity
 tour

  of the



  area which has made headlines over terror attacks,
 Raila

  said IEBC



  should be headed by somebody from America or United
 Kingdom

  because



  Kenyans have lost faith with Kenyans heading the

  Commission.







  He also said the Inspector General of Police post
 should

  also be



  occupied by a foreigner in order for Kenyans to regain
 their

  trust



  with the police force.







  Raila's assertions come a day after Gem MP and
 Deputy

  Leader of



  Minority in Parliament, Jakoyo Midiwo, said all key

  institutions in



  Government should be chaired by foreigners.







  Midiwo said the Attorney General, the Chief Justice,
 the

  IEBC Chair,



  the IG should all be foreigners to avoid rigging of

  elections in



  favour of the Jubilee coalition.















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  , we are fellow passengers on the same planet and
 dwell

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 individual

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