I hear you Evans, I hear you. I guess I have not lived in Kenya continuously for a long time so things like these might have changed while i wasn't looking. But a 15 yr-old !!!!
The university/college girls in Mombasa were just, in most cases, I think, greedy and material girls who were looking for money to keep up with the "Jonesses" who drive huge cars and wear flashy clothes. I understand university/college girls in Kenya are now living a high life courtesy of sugar-daddies, some of the Cabinet calibre. But in all fairness, some of those girls are driven by poverty to do porn with dogs. It's just sad !!!Courage
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Evans MACHERA <evansmachera@yahoo.com> wrote:
--SSsssshhhhhh Courage!
Whom are you calling a kid! Worse to it you are questioning about enough room!
If you go through some back pages of our local dailies,you will see adverts on or about enlargement and or help for men that includes energizers.
Why do you think the blue pill being the talk of the day nowadays and the chemists are smiling to the bank!
Dunia imepazuka somewhere - its only yesterday that News reports had it that University women in mombasa were entertaining dogs and will appear in court next Tuesday (today's Daily Nation reports too).
About Senator Kembi,the younger morome appears a photo copy of the man he claims to be his dad.The recent past (two years or so had reports of a man who came from German to meet his dad in a Kisumu hotel from where they went home.The dad was once upon a time a student in German where he "knew" a woman from where a son was born,but due to discrimination fear,she gave him to a Swedish family who raised him.On looking for her mother later,she reprimanded him and warned him against looking for her again.
He finally located the learning institution where his dad was and got a clue hence the search intensified. Another woman came from the US and met her dad at the Nation Center - the rest is history,but DNA never applied.
Real paternity looks upon family union and not inheritance of mali - si kila mtu aunde yake!
Evans MACHERA.
From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:48 PM
To: Progressive Kenyans <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PK] Re: I WONDER WHO IS THE SON OF THE OTHER?
But seriously Rose, let's look at the big picture here: What was going on through this guy's mind to even contemplate sleeping with a 15 yr-old. I can't even entertain a relationship with a 25 yr-old right now. I would feel I'm sleeping with a kid. Some things are just too absurd to even imagine. You just have to see them happening to believe that they do happen.Does a 15 yr-old even have enough "room" for a grown man to "access" ? Basi tu !!!
Courage--On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:41 AM, ROSE KAGWIRIA <ikirimakagwiria10@yahoo.com> wrote:
For me to make a decition, we need to know how far is the home of Nthenya to Kilonzo's home. Let me rule out before I conclude.
1. It would be impossible because of his position in politics unless they were neighbors and this young girl was being sent to him for something or taking something
2.The father was already working for Kilonzo and when Kilonzo started the affair with the teen but the father kept quiet in order to keep his jobAnswer: Most likely if the children of the man were visiting him and bet if these children were staying with the dad for sometimes
3.The father cannot arrange for an affair if Kilonzo had not met this girl before. I have a feeling this was a chance meeting which he did and he girl became pregnant. If it was arragement, he wold have continued with relationship.
4.Kilonzo had the affair with the teen in secrecy and the father never knew
This is likely especially if the guy was staying with his children in the compound of kilonzo. The girl does not say she was raped.
5.At 15 years, its hard for a girl to seduce a man of 57 years unless she is sent by somebody but with a motive because of Kilonzo's wealth
Conclusion
The most probable ones are 2. and 4
From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
To: Progressive Kenyans <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [PK] Re: I WONDER WHO IS THE SON OF THE OTHER?
Which possible scenario do you think applies here?4. Kilonzo had the affair with the teen in secrecy and the father never knew.3. The father arranged the affair in exchange for a job for the father2. The father was already working for Kilonzo and when Kilonzo started the affair with the teen but the father kept quiet in order to keep his job1. Kilonzo started an affair with the teen and when the father found out and started making noise he was given a job to keep him quiet.Rose,In your opinion which of the scenarios do you think most likely took place?
5. The teen seduced Kilonzo and he was just a weak-willed man and he fell for it.
Courage--On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 4:27 AM, ROSE KAGWIRIA <ikirimakagwiria10@yahoo.com> wrote:
MOThat is how it sounds but it can damage your reputation with your children and wife especially if your children are older than the said person na may be you are a very good KANISA MAN and you confessed to your wife you were a virgin before you married her. Some of these people are very good pretenders in life. God did not give them good negotiation skills like Kilonzo who quieted the Nthenya by paying her maternity bill and employed the dad to quieten him. I wonder what this guy will do in politics.
From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: [PK] I WONDER WHO IS THE SON OF THE OTHER?
Why do these people always fight these paternity claims eti the case is defective ? Defective my ass !!! If someone comes along and claims I'm his/her father, no problem, we just do a DNA and clear the matter. I don't even bother with court. We solve it quietly within the family.
Muranga Senator Kembi Gitura fights paternity suit
Roy Maina Kiarie (right) with his lawyer David Gikunda Miriti (left) outside Milimani Law Courts May 10, 2013. Mr Kiarie claims that Muranga Senator Kembi Gitura is his father. PAUL WAWERUBy PAUL OGEMBA
Posted Friday, May 10 2013 at 10:46Muranga Senator Kembi Gitura has moved to court to fight a petition filed by a man claiming to be his son.Mr Gitura, who is the Senate Deputy Speaker, claims that Roy Maina Kiarie's petition is scandalous, lacks merit, defective and an abuse of the court process since it does not disclose any reasonable cause for action."The petitioner's grievances do not demonstrate in what manner I have violated his rights and freedoms. The orders he is seeking are incapable of being granted as they grossly contravene my own rights," swears Mr Gitura.The senator is embroiled in the paternity row with Mr Kiarie who filed the suit seeking a declaration that Mr Gitura is his biological father.Mr Kiarie also wants a declaration that the senator's refusal to acknowledge him as his son and the denial to allow him use his name and access his property is unconstitutional.He claims that he was born out of a relationship between Mr Gitura and his mother Rachael Njeri Kiarie and grew up under the custody of her mother until she informed him that Mr Gitura is his biological father.On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:54 PM, ROSE KAGWIRIA <ikirimakagwiria10@yahoo.com> wrote:
--I wonder who is the father of the other
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