Wednesday 17 April 2013

Re: [wanabidii] Idi Amin’s son relives his father’s years at the helm

Mwandishi huyo anajaribu kupotosha ukweli. Tulioshiriki katika vita dhidi ya Nduli Iddi Amini tunajua mengi!


From: haulledict <haulledict@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Idi Amin's son relives his father's years at the helm

I think the people who are pro Amin have been well established. May be they want to rewrite the history as other societies have. Supporters of Amin are many all over. Just yesterday I met one Ugandan who is strongly believing in Dada and the discussion grow bitter to the extent one Kenyan became extremely furious.

 In the name of democracy and openness it is important to revisit the history not for the purpose of cleaning some people but for the purpose of leting history express every hiden things out. Even Kagera war needs to be well explained.
HAULLE, Evaristo

IRINGA- TANZANIA
I cant teach you violence  because I dont know, I can only teach you not to bow your heads before any one, even at the cost of your life - Gandhi

From: Tracy John <tracykwetu@gmail.com>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, 15 April 2013, 11:23
Subject: [wanabidii] Idi Amin's son relives his father's years at the helm




On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Frank Mujabi <frank.mujabi21@gmail.com> wrote:
A Pathetic attempt to re-paint a murderous blood thirsty monster.




On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:28 PM, George Okello <opallog@gmail.com> wrote:
I am so surprised by the rubbish being peddled here by Amin's son. It is almost as if he has no remorse at all for the crimes that his murderous father committed in Uganda. To call a monster "dad" is almost unforgivable. But I have bad news for him. Amin will never be redeemed, despite his best efforts. What this son of Amin should have done, should have been to totally dis-own him and make a humble apology to Ugandan and Tanzanian people. If he does this, Ugandans may have some sympathy for him, but not much. This is the same advice he was given by Mwalimu Nyerere's son, when the two of them and others were taken on a mountain climbing trip on Mount Kilimanjaro. This programme was aired on China TV and the young Nyerere advised Amin's son not even to try to rehabilitate his father's image, because forever he will always be remembered as a murderous dictator, the likes of which the world has rarely seen.
 
George Okello


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Ahmed Kateregga Musaazi <katereggamusaazi.ahmed@gmail.com> wrote:
Forumists, Uganda need a trith and reconciliation commission.


On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Majid Alemi Junior <majidalemijunior@yahoo.com> wrote:
Re:listen to to this tape. the former first lady. mama madina najjemba amin dada was interviewed some time back in uganda. by cbs radio buganda part of documentery.  i request mr. abe or anyone  a mugand to trnslate it into english for those who dont know kiganda. click here. http:soundcloud.com/majid-amonye-junior/the-former-first-lady-mama/stats  added by me. majid amonye junior in bc.

--- On Sun, 4/14/13, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulindwa@look.ca> wrote:

From: Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulindwa@look.ca>
Subject: RE: [UAH] Idi Amin's son relives his father's years at the helm - Special Reports - monitor.co.ug
To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
Received: Sunday, April 14, 2013, 10:21 PM


Ssekajja
 
What did Iddi Amin do to you sir? And I am only trying here to understand the difference from you and Ocen Nekyon that was a toddler during Iddi Amin, yet he screams bloody murder about the man.
 
What did Iddi Amin do to you sir?
 
EM
On the 49th
 
 
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"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
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From: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com [mailto:ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of ssekajja@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 6:18 PM
To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [UAH] Idi Amin's son relives his father's years at the helm - Special Reports - monitor.co.ug
 
It is heart-stopping to imagine that a son of monster, also refers to
him in tend terms as "dad". Maybe the appropriate way would have
been "murderous dad"!!!
 
This murderer left tears that can refill lake Victoria, if it was drained.
 
Ssekajja
 
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Sent: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 0:28
Subject: [UAH] Idi Amin's son relives his father's years at the helm - Special Reports - monitor.co.ug
 
 

Amin's son relives his father's years at the helm - Special Reports

When Idi Amin was not confronting neighbouring countries and dealing with internal problems, he took time off to attend social functions. 
In Summary
When Idi Amin was not confronting neighbouring countries and dealing with internal problems, he took time off to 
attend social functions.
The Last Days. Thursday April 11 marked 34 years since Idi Amin was overthrown by a combined force of Tanzania 
People's Defence Forces (TPDF) and Ugandan exiles. Over the years, we have heard the story of the victors and the 
epic battles that led to the toppling of the once feared Amin. But we have heard little from the vanquished. In a 
series of articles in the following weeks, one of Amin's children, Jaffar Remo Amin, recounts the events that 
went on around his father as he desperately tried to stem the tide.
Beginning in April 1978, there was trouble for dad as there was infighting, cronyism, rivalry and opposition to 
his rule in Uganda. Dad also seemed to falter in his control of the armed forces as mounting "friction" occurred 
in the Uganda Army, leading to his ouster on April 11, 1979.
That same month, April 1978, dad had relieved a close associate Brig. Moses Ali of his post as Minister of 
Finance. My father accused Ali of nepotism and mismanagement in the distribution of newly acquired Honda Accord 
and Honda Civic cars.
The cars were officially supposed to sell for Shs30,000 but were reportedly selling to some individuals for as 
much as Shs120,000. However it was the purported loss of US$40 million meant for the construction of the Grand 
National Mosque at Old Kampala from the State coffers that immediately triggered the sack.
My father was also unhappy with Maj. Gen. Isaac Lumago, the Chief of the Armed Forces, as well as with Nasur 
Ezega, Commanding Officer of Masaka and Abiriga 99 of Masindi Artillery Regiment (both members of the Aringa 
tribe). He dismissed them from the armed forces.
In late April 1978, Mustafa Adrisi, then vice president who hailed from the Aringa-Kakwa clan of Gisara, was 
injured in a car accident. To some members from the Aringa tribe, this was the final plot by my father's regime 
and people from the Kakwa tribe "to rid the Aringa tribe of all individuals in important and top positions in 
government."
Seeking safety
Following the car accident, Mustafa Adrisi was taken to Cairo for treatment in the company of Haruna Abuna. He 
did not return to Uganda until December 1978, at the height of mounting border incidents between Uganda and 
Tanzania that escalated into the full blown war that led to dad's ouster on April 11, 1979. They joined my elder 
brother Ali Juma Bashir who was undergoing extensive preservation of a shattered leg following a shooting 
incident involving smugglers on Lake Victoria as he was part of dad's elite Marines Anti-Smuggling Unit.
We were only able to meet our brother Ali Juma Bashir when we went to Tripoli, Libya after dad's government had 
been overthrown. He joined us there upon his release from the hospital in Cairo. Relations between dad and Julius 
Nyerere had continued to deteriorate, despite dad's attempt to extend a hand of peace to Nyerere at the 1973 OAU 
(Organisation of African Unity) Summit in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia. Between September 1972 and October 1978, 
tensions had continued between dad and Nyerere with the threat of war continuing to be imminent. Units of dad's 
army were regularly placed on high alert in readiness for war and suspicion ran high.
Everyone in Uganda was always aware that as long as dad was the president, it was just a matter of time before a 
full-blown war erupted between Uganda and Tanzania. Beginning in 1978, tension between Uganda and Tanzania 
increased with rumours of an impending attack on Uganda by Tanzania running wild! This led members of dad's high 
command to call for an immediate attack on Tanzania, which eventually happened in October 1978.
Before the attack, the Chui and Simba Battalions were rumoured to have mutinied over pay also in October 1978. 
At this time, dad made his biggest mistake and as it turns out, the final disastrous gamble by sanctioning the 
attack on Tanzania and occupying its territory although with hindsight, a close associate Juma Oka Rokoni, was at 
the centre of this most unfortunate of blunders.
Juma Rokoni – nicknamed Butabika – was the grandson of the former Kakwa paramount chief Sultan Ali Kenyi Dada who 
was a cousin to Idi Amin's father. He is the same army officer who put a gun to dad's head back in 1971 when dad 
became reluctant about taking over the presidency following the military coup against Apollo Milton Obote on 
January 25, 1971. According to reports, on October 27, 1978, sporadic border clashes and attacks ensued at the 
border town of Mutukula between the Uganda Army and the Tanzania People's Defence Forces.
Then on October 31, 1978, the Uganda Army crossed into the Kagera Salient and attacked Tanzania. Juma Oka 
Butabika, one of dad's officers, led the initial attack. He is reported to have phoned dad and claimed that 
Tanzanian troops had invaded Uganda, which forced him to take charge of Ugandan soldiers stationed at the border 
areas in order to repel the Tanzanian invaders. According to reports, dad fell for the information given by Juma 
Oka Butabika and sanctioned more attacks on Tanzania.
After the attacks by Butabika, dad went on air and declared "a world record" of 25 minutes in capturing some 700 
square miles of Tanzanian territory. He announced that his government had annexed the Kagera Salient.
More details have now emerged about the circumstances surrounding the war between Uganda and Tanzania. These 
include allegations that dad and his senior officers were given false and misleading reports by saboteurs and 
subversive elements operating within the State Research Bureau (SRB) in order to start a war between Uganda and 
Tanzania so that dad could be overthrown.
There are also allegations that others and not dad or his senior officers orchestrated vicious atrocities on 
innocent civilians in Tanzania following the attack by Butabika which was sanctioned by dad and made it look like 
dad and his senior officers sanctioned these atrocities. They allegedly did this so that Tanzania could be 
"pushed" to the limit and declare an all-out war on dad's government to defend itself and its citizens and to 
completely overthrow dad.
IWhen Idi Amin was not confronting neighbouring countries and dealing with internal problems, he took time off to attend social functions. 
In Summary
When Idi Amin was not confronting neighbouring countries and dealing with internal problems, he took time off to 
attend social functions.
In essence, the people making the allegations suggest that dad, Butabika and dad's other senior officers were 
duped into attacking Tanzania under false pretenses and on false information that was given deliberately so that 
they could attack Tanzania and start a war.
In addition, the same saboteurs and subversive elements allegedly went on to commit the most gruesome atrocities. 
Some cynics have boldly stated that: "The widespread looting, murder and destruction in the border towns of 
Tanzania that followed the clashes between Tanzanian and Ugandan soldiers and the attacks by Uganda on Tanzania 
were committed by the same saboteurs and subversive elements that operated within Uganda and murdered innocent 
Ugandans throughout Idi Amin's rule.
They did this to continue to tarnish Idi Amin's reputation and make him look like a maniacal murderer. They are 
cold hearted killers who were only interested in achieving their own agendas."
Needless to say, the horrific atrocities committed against innocent Tanzanian civilians provoked Nyerere and his 
government to declare war on dad. These atrocities indeed pushed Tanzania to the limit and necessitated the 
country's military to defend its innocent citizens against murders and other atrocities allegedly committed by 
others and not dad's soldiers.
Moreover, powerful governments around the world had allegedly gone along with the propaganda that was ongoing 
against dad and fully supported Tanzania and the exiles in their bid to overthrow dad's government. 
Well, in response to the "careless blunder" by Butabika, a force comprising Tanzanians, Ugandan exiles and 
mercenaries launched an attack on Mutukula.
They were determined to overthrow dad's government and the Ugandan exiles were about to realize the objectives of 
the meeting they held in 1976 in Lusaka, Zambia to lay a more systematic strategy for overthrowing dad. Uganda 
and Tanzania were now entangled in an all-out war. The casualties would be many and the damage immeasurable!
Meanwhile, roughly 10,000-15,000 mainly young Uganda Army recruits passed out at Ngoma, northwest of Bombo and 
prepared to fight the guerrillas. Having recently obtained armaments from the Soviet Union, Tanzania was more 
than prepared for the war against dad and angry and determined enough to want to not only drive the so-called 
invaders out of Tanzanian territory but to overthrow dad.
Launching counter-attack
So in November 1978, Tanzania launched a counter-attack on Uganda and on December 9, 1978, the country's 
President Julius Nyerere announced that the Tanzanian army had had a victory. He told Tanzanians that dad's 
soldiers had been driven out of Tanzanian soil.
Yet this was not true. Apparently after the attack sanctioned by dad and the announcement that his government had 
annexed the Kagera Salient, nations from the OIC (Organisation of the Islamic Conference) convinced him to 
withdraw back to the original borders that existed when each country achieved "Independence."
Dad had done that but Tanzania attacked Uganda in retaliation nonetheless. Dad's soldiers were not driven from 
Tanzania as has always been reported. They had withdrawn from the Kagera Salient when Tanzania attacked Uganda.
-Continues in Sunday Monitor
di Amin's son relives his father's years at the helm - Special Reports 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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