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On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 4:12 PM, 'frank patrick materu' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
No research/ data, no right to speak. Otherwise ni propaganda.
On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 10:29 AM, 'Mike Zunzu' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Reuben,
Unaweza usikubaliane na kinachosemwa lakini kuna ukweli ndani yake, kwenye nchi ambazo wao ndiyo walituletea ne la Muumba ukeli ni kwamba kuna watu hawajali tena, kwa generation ya vijana waliowengi ndiyo kabisa, wanajua kuampa tu lakini ukiwauliza wakusimulie hawawezi kukusimulia kwa ufani wengine hata hana habari kabisa.
Nina ushahidi wa makanisa mawili, moja lilikuwa la wakatoliki, lapili sifahamu historia yake waliwauzia waislam na sasa hivi ni miskiti, hiyo sijaambiwa na mtu nayahamu majengo hayo mawili, sehemu iliyokuwa msalaba, usalaba umenyofolewa na kumefungwa mwezi na nyota.
Jengo jingine lilikuwa kanisa waliuziwa ma developer, wameligeuza kuwa nyumba za kuishi, si unajua makanisa mengine yalikuwa yakijengwa yakiwa marefu kwenda juu, hivyo kuna nyumba ground floor na first floor.
Kama nilivyomwambia Omar jana namba ya waislam inaweza kuwa haiongezeki, lakini ni kwamba haipungui, kwa sababu hakuna hiyari, kila mtoto anayezaliwa kwenye familia ya kiislam lazima abaki muislam, kinyume chake wazazi wake mwenyewe wako tayari kumuua, wao wanaita Honour killing, hii ni pamoja msichana asije akaolewa na mtu asiyekuwa muislam.
Reuben majengo niliyosema yamekuwa converted kwenye shughuli zingine, kama waumini wa kikristo wasingekuwa wanapungua yasingelikosa kazi yangelikuwa bado yanatumika.
On Wednesday, 1 October 2014, 7:22, 'Reuben Mwandumbya' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Ngupula;
Napata shida kdg kuamini kwamba 'one group is growing and the other shrinking' pasipo data.
Otherwise the other part of your quoted saying is very true.
Reuben
From: 'Ngupula GW' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
To: 'Mike Zunzu' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Re: {UAH} Paul - WHAT DO MUSLIMS SEE IN ISLAM ///
The number of muslims is growing while of christians shrinking.....i suppose this is very true.. the bible through the book of Daniel prophesies the fiecely rule of antichrist in the end days,and that might be the world leadership of muslims....Jesus himself prophesied that there will come a time where everone persecuting and brutally killing true christians will think that in doing so offers a best sacrifice to God...Again,I presupose this is no other than muslim religion for that seems as part of their belief ...ngupula
'Mike Zunzu' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:Omar,You can use all means of defending and justifying the actions of Muslims, your points will never clear the dark cloud of sense less murders committed daily by Muslims.You are just hitting around the bush without tell the people why kill innocent people for the sake of securing a place in the heave is justified in your beliefs.You said somewhere in you contribution that.the number of Muslims is growing and of the Christians is shrinking, do you know why, Because there is no democracy in Islam, starting from the families, a child born in Muslim family will never convert to any other religion other wife she/he can be killed by their own parents. So some one has to follow where there real believe in that religion or not they have to stay in. From this point you can see why you have a wrong product of people, someone is there to save their skin not the soul, Such person is so easy to be brain washed, when there asked to commit suicide they can do it even without reasoning, provide they are fooled that when the die the heave is theirs, with extra rewards of a number of virgins. There someone asked themselves, why suffer here on earth while I am going the same thing when I die, even better as you will not be under control of any one.I just wanted to assure you, today, tomorrow, a 1000, even ever and ever, no one said the old testament should be abandoned, it has been used and it will continue being used and carry the same importance as it was ever. Those a bluffing talks when you are discussing about peoples beliefs.I quote "About the impersonation (Certain actions attributed to Muslims not carried out by Muslims)". You point is a common to every Muslim when terrible things happened. And you don't admit it must be from the teaching, it cannot be because those people are imaging from no where, there is a source. Last time I gave example of this genital man called ABB Hamza, in UK, this guy used to preach openly asking youth to take a lead to kill, even he had cassettes of his speeches were sold in the street. Why don't you admit radicalization is done by your own leaders.Another point less you wrote is I quote "We wonder why Muslims are expected to apologize for explain any 'Muslim' atrocity when the Catholic church or Ugandan Catholics never even once 'explained' the LRA Ten Commandments terrorist movement of a former alter boy Joseph Kony" Did Kony boast himself that he was doing for a Catholic Church?, If the answer is NO, then you have 0 point on you argument.. .
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