For the first time, I support Okill on both the subject matter and the way he has brought up his point on this issue word by word. I don't know where we are headed to. There is no way you can develop an area by dictating how much and where the funds is coming from. I heard some people saying they need money for roads and hospitals, why are they directing these to Kidero and they are elected leaders who should be doing these? On the name of development Kidero should move on. I think I'm getting sick with the trend.
Arina DCOn Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Nyamodi Ochieng Nyamogo <okil@nyamogoadvocates.com> wrote:
KhAgUlA Maurice,
Leadership is, ALWAYS, about competing ideas,
and ideals! Do you get it???!!! The mere holding of harambees, by
Governor Kidero, cannot amount to "undermining Raila", except in the
minds of the depraved, from which i've no way of doubting that you
qualify!!! In any event, if Kidero's harambees are "undermining
Raila", why can Raila not hold his own, to neutralize Kidero???!!! The
Luo have been treated to useless theatrics for far too long, and it
was just about time some chief gladiator got "undermined"!!! Late
Thomas Joseph Mboya, omin Okuku, DO YOU COPY???!!!
Nyamodi Ochieng-Nyamogo.
On 12/28/13, khaguli maurice <mkhaguli@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mzee Anyumba,
> Did you watch that "movie Amistad"? Kidero strategy is a dangerous move and
> CORD/ODM/RAILA/WETANGULA/KALONZO "must" destroy him before he destroy them
> all. This is TRUE!
> We stand to emphasize the truth, truth is one!> On Saturday, December 28, 2013 12:43 PM, anyumba462 <anyumba462@yahoo.com>
>
>
>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Give us free. Amistad
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>
>>
>>-------- Original message --------
>>From: khaguli maurice <mkhaguli@yahoo.com>
>>Date: 12/28/2013 10:42 (GMT-05:00)
>>To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>Cc: uchunguzi online
>> <uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>,wanakenya@googlegroups.com,kol
>> <kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>
>>Subject: Re: [PK] Re: [uchunguzionline] Nyanza leaders meet Raila over
>> Kidero's big-money harambees
>>
>>
>>
>>Guys,
>>I have said before and hope ODM/CORD leaderships is taking this Kidero
>> thing serious. Kidero is being used to "KILL"/DESTROY" certain targeted
>> political image/leaders...Raila, Kalonzo and Wetangula leading the list.
>> Remember how they prepared Uhuru secretly to take over from Kibaki? now is
>> to keep Uhuru and Ruto madness in system at all costs. Information from
>> the ground now is "someone" is has to deal with Wetangula both in the
>> house and outside
>>We stand to emphasize the truth, truth is one!
>>
>>
>>
>>On Saturday, December 28, 2013 12:29 AM, Maurice J. Oduor
>> <mauricejoduor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Afwande is implying that Nyanza folks are sheep. How can Raila have a
>> stranglehold in Nyanza if the Nyanza people themselves don't vote
>> according to his wish. Nyanza people have faith in Raila and what Afwande
>> should do is go campaign in Nyanza and convince people that "Raila is a
>> bad man".
>>>
>>>
>>>Courage
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 2013-12-27, at 10:53
> PM, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>Afwande:
>>>>If he is encouraging such thoughts and he seems to be going by the harsh
>>>> tones from his lieutenants, then it is time for Rao to leave. You would
>>>> have expected Kidero and Dalmas to be the darling of these politicians,
>>>> regardless of where he gets the money.
>>>>
>>>>Just imagine Moi and others turned down the monies from the likes of
>>>> infamous carnyingi (my namesake). Just also imagine how those benefiting
>>>> from Kidero will feel once they hear that those politicians are
>>>> bickering over the millions donated and would have preferred they were
>>>> left alone.
>>>>
>>>>Listen to Millie:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mbita MP Millie
> Odhiambo, who was also in Bondo, said the leaders were only worried
> about the source of money being donated in harambees.
>>>>"There was concern about where this people are getting their money from
> because we know their salaries cannot fund such multi-million projects," she
> said.
>>>>Mr Otieno criticised Nyanza leaders for
> their stand on Harambees, arguing that the region's skyrocketing poverty
> could escalate to unimaginable level if a caveat on such events was
> imposed as suggested by some local leaders.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 6:58 PM, anyumba462 <anyumba462@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>KM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I have said a myriad times that RAO is the Machiavelli of our modern
>>>>> times. Let him fold his beddings
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>We are tired of his good for nothing stranglehold in Nyanza
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Afwande
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-------- Original message --------
>>>>>From: Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
>>>>>Date: 12/27/2013 18:41 (GMT-05:00)
>>>>>To: progressive-kenyans <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>Cc: uchunguzi online <uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>,Africa-Oped
>>>>> <africa-oped@yahoogroups.com>,VVM Vuguvugu Mashinani
>>>>> <VuguVuguMashinani@yahoogroups.com>,WanaKenya
>>>>> <Wanakenya@googlegroups.com>,kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com
>>>>>Subject: [uchunguzionline] Nyanza leaders meet Raila over Kidero's
>>>>> big-money harambees
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Jameni what is wrong with these leaders or rather what wrong has Kidero
>>>>> and dalmas done? So if you contribute more than Raila then you become
>>>>> an enemy? I thought they would be happy with the money flowing in
>>>>> Nyanza but may be the anger is because Ruto and Uhuru are sending
>>>>> donations and so overshadowing Raila. I call the talk from akina
>>>>> Kajuang ujinga.
>>>>>
>>>>>They remind me of those Kikuyus who hated JM Kariuki because he was
>>>>> becoming very popular for giving large donations and was accused og
>>>>> undermining Kenyatta. Kenyatta gave Ksh 10K and everyone had to give
>>>>> less than that. Now Kidero is being asked to give peanuts if he wants
>>>>> to be in good books. Ghasia!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Nyanza leaders meet Raila over Kidero's big-money harambees
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>-- By ISAAC ONGIRI
>>>>>More by this Author
>>>>>A storm is brewing in the Nyanza region
> over big money fund-raising events presided over by Nairobi governor
> Evans Kidero and Rongo MP Dalmas Otieno.
>>>>>A meeting at
> former Prime Minister Raila Odinga's Bondo home on Monday discussed the
> impact of the fund-raisings after Homa Bay Senator Otieno Kajwang
> complained that the events were aimed at dividing the Luo community.
>>>>>The Bondo meeting attended by more than 35 MPs, including local
>>>>> senators,
> was called by Mr Odinga to brainstorm on regional leadership.
>>>>>Mr Kidero, whose activities in Nyanza have intensified over the past few
>>>>>
> months, has been a major concern to local leaders allied to the former
> PM over suspicions he is attempting to take over the territory dominated by
> the Odingas since independence.
>>>>>Last month, the
> Nairobi governor presided over a fund-raising in aid of Tom Mboya
> Secondary School in Awendo, which raised Sh15 million, including Sh2
> million from President Uhuru Kenyatta and Sh500,000 from Deputy
> President William Ruto.
>>>>>This month, Dr Kidero presided over yet another event at Asumbi Catholic
>>>>> Church, which collected Sh11 million.
>>>>>And last weekend, Rongo MP Dalmas Otieno hosted another fund-raising in
>>>>> aid of Kamagambo Adventist Church, Ranen, which mobilised Sh6.4 million
>>>>>
> including Sh1 million each from the President and his deputy.
>>>>>Mr Ruto was present at the event, which has seen Mr Otieno castigated by
>>>>>
> his colleagues for saying Mr Ruto is being sacrificed at the
> International Criminal Court because of his strong struggle to bring
> power to the people of the region in the 2007 elections.
>>>>>Mr Kidero on Friday told the Saturday Nation that his activities in
>>>>> Nyanza have no political ends, but are driven
> desire to end the widespread poverty while at the same time resu citing
> the once academic giant.
>>>>>"I want our people to
> understand that I am not doing this to compete with Mr Odinga. He is the
> leader of the Luo, something I have accepted while I am the governor
> of Nairobi – somewhere below his rank. We must raise funds to build
> schools and take our children to school," he told the Saturday Nation.
>>>>>Dr Kidero's monthly Nyanza tours are expected to continue in the new
>>>>> year with a major fund-raising for youth groups in Kisumu expected next
>>>>>
> month, another fund-raising in March in Muhoroni to support women groups and
> one in Suba in aid of St Gabriel's Gwassi Girls Secondary School is
> scheduled for May.
>>>>>"I am not just doing this in
> Nyanza. The other day I was in Tetu raising funds for a local school.
> This is because government funds can never be enough for everything," he
> stated.
>>>>>Suba MP Mr John Mbadi, who attended the
> meeting at Mr Odinga's home, said that though concerns were raised about the
> massive donations, no particular individual was discussed.
>>>>>"Yes it is true the issue about harambees was raised but it was not in
>>>>> the
> agenda. There are concerns that some individuals want to use these
> fundraisings to gain political support in the region," Mr Mbadi said.
>>>>>He explained: "There was a feeling that these harambees were used by
> President Daniel Moi to hoodwink Kenyans that development could be
> achieved through them while public money was looted and diverted to
> private activities," the Suba MP said.
>>>>>Mbita MP Millie
> Odhiambo, who was also in Bondo, said the leaders were only worried
> about the source of money being donated in harambees.
>>>>>"There was concern about where this people are getting their money from
>>>>>
> because we know their salaries cannot fund such multi-million projects," she
> said.
>>>>>Mr Otieno criticised Nyanza leaders for
> their stand on Harambees, arguing that the region's skyrocketing poverty
> could escalate to unimaginable level if a caveat on such events was
> imposed as suggested by some local leaders.
>>>>>"The truth
> is that Nyanza is poor. We must be able to raise funds for churches to
> be built and our children to go to school. It will be unfair to deny our
> people an opportunity to raise funds to supplement on government funds
> like CDF," he argued.
>>>>>The Rongo MP wondered why the
> Bondo meeting castigated him and the Nairobi governor, adding that Mr
> Odinga himself sent Sh100,000 in support of the Ranen fundraising.
>>>>>The MP also maintained his comments on Mr Ruto's situation: "It is true
>>>>>
> that if the youths from the Rift Valley did not block the highways the
> Grand Coalition government under which Mr Odinga became PM could not
> have happened."
>>>>>He added that Mr Ruto deserved support
> from the people of Nyanza just as the region also deserves compensation
> from the State for losses incurred by individuals from the area who were
> affected by the 2008 post-election violence.
>>>>>On his part, Dr Kidero insists that the biggest thing in his mind is how
>>>>> to change and transform lives and not rhetoric.
>>>>>Kisumu Senator Anyang Nyong'o recently attempted to introduce a Motion
>>>>> in the Senate to tax funds obtained from Harambees.
>>>>>\
>>>>>Veritas liberabit vos
>>>>>The truth Shall set you free http://www.kuria-mwangi.blogspot.com/
>>>>>http://www.facebook.com/kjmwangi
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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