Re: [wanabidii] Nawahurumia wake zao ambao wana UKIMWI uliotoka kwangu

Wewe didas angalia mambo yako ya ulokole.achana na wakatoliki.

On 12/29/13, Nzigamasabo Didas <dimasabo13@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nawashukuru sana wachangiaji kimsingi kila mtu ataubeba mzigo wake
> mwenyewe kama ukitaka kuona uso wa Mungu hakika lazima ulifuate na
> kulitii neno lake. kwa wale wakatoliki hakuna sababu ya ubishi juu ya
> kuooka ebu tumia muda wako shiriki kwenye kikundi cha uamusho
> /karzimatiki katoliki utajifunza mengi , tatizo letu hatuna mafundisho
> endelevu ya neno la Mungu, unabatizwa ukiwa mtoto, komunio mdogo na
> kipaimara pia baada ya hapo huna kitu zaidi ya mafundisho ya jumapili
> kama unaenda? nawapongeza waliotoa nukuu kudhibisha kuwa kuna kuokoka
> na kuwa ndiyo mwanzo wa safari na utawezaje kupigana vita vya kiroho
> kama hauko rohoni na unakuwaje mtu wa rohoni kabla hujamkiri Yesu kuwa
> bwana na mwokozi wako
> Tuache ubishi "WATU WANGU WANAANGAMIA KWA KUKOSA MAARIFA"'
> MBARIKIWE
>
> On 12/28/13, Bariki Mwasaga <bmwasaga@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Leon
>>
>> Kwani lazima mkutane mahali kama ulipopataja. Kanisa ni mimi, Kanisa ni
>> wewe, Kanisa ni sisi. Ukiishatambua kwamba wewe ni Kanisa basi mengine ni
>> marahisi zaidi. Kote ulikokutaja kuna taratibu ambazo nyingi ni za
>> kibinadamu zaidi kuliko zile za Kimungu.
>>
>>
>> 2013/12/28 Paschal Leon <paschalleon@yahoo.com>
>>
>>> Imeandikwa "msiache kukutana" sasa tutakutania wapi ndugu? sina maana ya
>>> majengo ni kujifunza neon.
>>>
>>> *From:* Bariki Mwasaga <bmwasaga@gmail.com>
>>> *To:* wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, December 27, 2013 3:02 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [wanabidii] Nawahurumia wake zao ambao wana UKIMWI
>>> uliotoka kwangu
>>>
>>> Leon
>>>
>>> Nashukuru kwa maelekezo. Kwa ufupi kote ulikokutaja nao wanamfahamu Yesu
>>> huyu huyu wa Biblia na wala si mwingine. Mie macho na masikio ni kwa
>>> YESU
>>> tu wala siyo kwenye hayo majengo ndugu mpendwa.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/12/27 Joseph Ludovick <josephludovick@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Salaale.jane ni muongo na mzandiki.hii habari ya kubuni haina
>>> logic,coherence wala consistence. Kama alivyohoji mtu hapo achana na
>>> hekaya za abunuwasi sema tu unataka watu waokoke.
>>> kuleta habari Za kulaani pombe,disco nk ni ujuha.fahamu
>>> unachokiongelea.kuokoka kupo na wote tumeokolewa na yesu.then
>>> tunapaswa kuongoka kwa kubadili maisha yetu,ili hatimaye tupate
>>> ukamilifu wa wokovu.
>>>
>>> On 12/27/13, Francis Kasili <Francis.Kasili@nmbtz.com> wrote:
>>> > Tazameni kidogo hapa. Yohana 1:12 inasema wote waliompokea aliwapa
>>> > uwezo
>>> > kuwa wana wa Mungu, Inaendelea kusema ndio wale walio liamini Jina la
>>> Mwana
>>> > wa Mungu. Marko sura ya 28 inasema na ishara zitaambatana na hao
>>> waaminio,
>>> > kwa Jina la Lake{Yesu} Watatoa pepo, watasema kwa lugha mpya na hata
>>> wakila
>>> > kitu cha kufisha hakitawadhuru kabisa. Hapa inaashiria kwa waliookoka
>>> ambao
>>> > wanapokea uwezo toka kwa Mungu mwenyewe. Pia yapasa mtu atambue wokovu
>>> > ni
>>> > neema ambayo mtu hipewa na Mungu maana Biblia inasema si wengi wenye
>>> hekima,
>>> > si wengi wenye elimu, bali Mungu aliamua kuwaokoa waamio kwa upuuzi wa
>>> hilo
>>> > neno ili kuwaabisha wenye akili. Pia 1korinrtho 1:18 inesema neno la
>>> msalaba
>>> > kwa wanaookolewa ni nguvu ya Mungu bali kwa wanaopotea ni upuuzi.
>>> > Jamani
>>> > swala la wokovu halihitaji akili nyingi sana za kibinadamu kwani huko
>>> > ni
>>> > kulichakachua Neno la Mungu, Anguko la Adamu limerejeshwa na Yesu na
>>> > ni
>>> kwa
>>> > hiari ya mtu pasipo shuruti ndipo unapata wokovu. Mwenye sikio na
>>> > asikie
>>> na
>>> > mwenye macho atazame.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Always darkness will never comprehend light
>>> >
>>> > ________________________________
>>> > From: wanabidii@googlegroups.com [wanabidii@googlegroups.com] on
>>> > behalf
>>> of
>>> > Reuben Mwandumbya [ipyana75@yahoo.com]
>>> > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 9:18 AM
>>> > To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>>> > Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Nawahurumia wake zao ambao wana UKIMWI
>>> > uliotoka
>>> > kwangu
>>> >
>>> > Bariki;
>>> > ''aaminie na kubatizwa ataokoka'' this is future continuous tense,
>>> haisemi
>>> > ameokoka hivyo siku ya mwisho ya kuwasilisha hesabu mbele za Mungu ndo
>>> > utajua,hii ni safari ndefu otherwise ingekuwa baada ya ubatizo
>>> > tunafunga
>>> > ukurasa kwamba tumemaliza kazi tunasubiri kwenda peponi.
>>> >
>>> > By then naomba tuishie hapa mana mambo ya imani hayaitaji
>>> > kuyajadili,ni
>>> > mambo binafsi.
>>> >
>>> > Mwaka mpya njema.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thursday, December 26, 2013 10:25 PM, Bariki Mwasaga <
>>> bmwasaga@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > Mwl MM
>>> > Ubarikiwe. Binafsi sikutaka kuingia ndani kutokana na kwamba uzi
>>> > uliopo
>>> > haukulenga hiki lakini yote ni mema. Mwenye sikio na asikie na atende
>>> > sawasawa na Neno la Mungu.
>>> > On Dec 26, 2013 10:17 PM, "Mathew Mndeme"
>>> > <mathewmndeme@gmail.com<mailto:mathewmndeme@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> > Well put Bariki,
>>> >
>>> > Bila kujiingiza kwenye presentation ya Jane, naomba niseme neno na
>>> > wale
>>> > ambao wamejitambulisha huku kuwa ni wakristo na bado wanakuwa na
>>> > ujasiri
>>> wa
>>> > kupinga dhana ya WOKOVU na wanaoukiri wokovu.
>>> >
>>> > The facts kuwa wewe huamini katika wokovu au una mefundisho tofauti
>>> kuhusu
>>> > concept ya wokovu, haiondoi ukweli kuwa hakuna wokovu au haimfanyi mtu
>>> > anayesema kaokoka kuwa mkosaji au mpotoshaji. Kama wanadamu au vikundi
>>> vyao
>>> > vya kiimani wanaosema kuwa wameokoka na wakashindwa kuishi maisha ya
>>> wokovu,
>>> > hiyo pia aiondoi ukweli na uhakika wa wokovu na ukweli kwamba wale
>>> > wanaoamini katika Kristo Yesu imewapasa kuokoka. Kama kuna wachungaji,
>>> > maaskofu, manabii na mwingine yeyote mwenye cheo cha kidini anashindwa
>>> > kutembea katika wokovu, hilo ni tatizo lake mwenyewe kama alivyokua
>>> > Yuda
>>> > Iskariote, na haiondoi ukweli kwamba tumeitiwa ufuasi unaotuelekeza
>>> katika
>>> > maisha ya wokovu.
>>> >
>>> > Sina hakika kama ni sahihi watu kujitengenezea tafisiri ya wokovu
>>> > wanayoitaka wao na kuanza kuichambua kuwa sio ya kweli na wokovu haupo
>>> > au
>>> > hauwezekani kwa kutumia tafisri hiyo kama reference point.
>>> >
>>> > Wokovu sio utimilifu wa utakatifu bali ni kukubali ufuasi
>>> > unaokuelekeza
>>> > huko. Wokovu ni safari ya maisha ya kumpeleka mtu katika utakatifu na
>>> > utimilifu. Kudahiliwa chuo kikuu sio kupata degree lakini ni njia ya
>>> kupata
>>> > degree na kuna maisha tofuati sana unatakiwa kuishi katika kuelekea
>>> kuipata
>>> > degree tofauti na wasio kwenye mpango huo. Kuoa au kuolewa sio
>>> > utimilifu
>>> wa
>>> > maisha ya kifamilia yenye amani, mshikamano, furaha, na mafanikio
>>> > lakini
>>> ni
>>> > njia sahihi ya kuelekea huko na hakuna alternative. Wokovu ni
>>> > kukubali
>>> > kuwa kwenye kundi la wautafutao utimilifu na usafi katika kumpendeza
>>> Mungu
>>> > kupitia Yesu Kristo kama Bwana na Mwokozi wa maisha yao. Ni ukiri
>>> unaoendana
>>> > na imani katika kile unachokikiri.
>>> >
>>> > Hakuna mahali Biblia inasema mtu akiokoka hawezi kutenda dhambi tena.
>>> Hata
>>> > Petro aliyeaminiwa na Yesu na kukabidhiwa kanisa bado alikosea wakati
>>> > wa
>>> > Yesu kwa kumkana na baada ya Yesu kwa kuwa mnafiki akiwaogopa Wayahudi
>>> mbele
>>> > ya mataifa. Ila kuna tofauti kubwa ya kutenda dhambi ndani ya wokovu
>>> > na
>>> mtu
>>> > ambaye kutenda dhambi ni sehemu ya maisha yake ya kila siku. Wa kwanza
>>> > dhambi ni ajali na sio utamaduni kwake maana maisha anayoishi hayana
>>> wenyeji
>>> > wa dhambi...na kwa minajili hiyo huishi katika toba inayoendana na
>>> jitihada
>>> > ya kutoishi katika makosa/dhambi anazojikuta amefanya. Dhambi ni
>>> > majuto
>>> na
>>> > huzuni katika maisha yake na mara zote anajitahidi kutafuta kuyafanya
>>> > mapenzi ya Mungu. Huyu wa pili dhambi sio ajali na haina majuto ndani
>>> > mwake. Hajisumbui kutafuta mapenzi ya Mungu na kinyume chake
>>> > hujisumbua
>>> > kufanya mengi yaliyo kinyume na Mungu huku akiyatetea. Kuna tofauti ya
>>> > kutenda dhambi na kuishi katika dhambi..kuna tofauti ya kukosea na
>>> kuishi
>>> > maisha ya ukosaji. Ndio mana Paulo akasema katika 2Wakorintho 5:17,
>>> > "Hata
>>> > imekuwa, mtu akiwa ndani ya Kristo amekuwa kiumbe kipya; ya kale
>>> > yamepita
>>> > tazama! Yamekuwa mapya."
>>> >
>>> > Maisha ya wokovu, utakatifu na uzima wa milele yanaanzia hapa duniani.
>>> Wati
>>> > wa Yesu akina Petro walikua na maswali kama sisi: Petro akasema,
>>> > Tazama,
>>> > sisi tumeviacha vitu vyetu vyote na kukufuata. Akawaambia, Hakika
>>> nawaambia,
>>> > hakuna mtu aliyeacha nyumba, au mke, au ndugu, au wazazi, au wana, kwa
>>> ajili
>>> > ya ufalme wa Mungu, asiyepokea zaidi mara nyingi katika zamani hizi,
>>> > na
>>> > katika ulimwengu ujao uzima wa milele.(Luka 18:30)
>>> >
>>> > Biblia inasema, "Kwa maana jinsi hii Mungu aliupenda ulimwengu, hata
>>> akamtoa
>>> > Mwanawe pekee, ili kila mtu amwaminiye asipotee, bali awe na uzima wa
>>> > milele. Maana Mungu hakumtuma Mwana ulimwenguni ili auhukumu
>>> > ulimwengu,
>>> bali
>>> > ulimwengu uokolewe katika yeye. Amwaminiye yeye hahukumiwi; asiyeamini
>>> > amekwisha kuhukumiwa; kwa sababu hakuliamini jina la Mwana pekee wa
>>> Mungu.
>>> > Na hii ndiyo hukumu; ya kuwa nuru imekuja ulimwenguni, na watu
>>> > wakapenda
>>> > giza kuliko nuru; kwa maana matendo yao yalikuwa maovu (Yahana
>>> > 3:16-19).
>>> Huu
>>> > uzima huanzi tutakapokufa. Unaanza sasa kwa sisi kuamini na kufuata
>>> > kile
>>> > tunachoamini.
>>> >
>>> > Biblia imejaa maandiko mengi tu yanayoelezea wokovu bila utata wala
>>> > kigugumizi. Nikupe baadhi ya reference ambazo hata hazihitaji
>>> > tafisiri:
>>> > 1) Alikuja kwake, wala walio wake hawakumpokea. Bali wote
>>> > waliompokea
>>> > aliwapa uwezo wa kufanyika watoto wa Mungu, ndio wale waliaminio jina
>>> lake;
>>> > waliozaliwa, si kwa damu, wala si kwa mapenzi ya mwili, wala si kwa
>>> mapenzi
>>> > ya mtu, bali kwa Mungu (Yohana 1:11-13).
>>> >
>>> > 2) Tazameni, ni pendo la namna gani alilotupa Baba, kwamba tuitwe
>>> > wana
>>> wa
>>> > Mungu; na ndivyo tulivyo. Kwa sababu hii ulimwengu haututambui, kwa
>>> > kuwa
>>> > haukumtambua yeye. Wapenzi, sasa tu wana wa Mungu, wala haijadhihirika
>>> bado
>>> > tutakavyokuwa; lakini twajua ya kuwa atakapodhihirishwa, tutafanana
>>> > naye;
>>> > kwa maana tutamwona kama alivyo. Na kila mwenye matumaini haya katika
>>> yeye
>>> > hujitakasa, kama yeye alivyo mtakatifu. (1Yohana 3:1-3)
>>> > 3) Yeye ndiye jiwe lile lililodharauliwa na ninyi waashi, nalo
>>> limewekwa
>>> > kuwa jiwe kuu la pembeni. Wala hakuna wokovu katika mwingine awaye
>>> > yote,
>>> kwa
>>> > maana hapana jina jingine chini ya mbingu walilopewa wanadamu
>>> > litupasalo
>>> > sisi kuokolewa kwalo (Matendo 4:12)
>>> > 4) Wote anipao Baba watakuja kwangu; wala ye yote ajaye kwangu
>>> sitamtupa
>>> > nje kamwe. Kwa kuwa mimi sikushuka kutoka mbinguni ili niyafanye
>>> > mapenzi
>>> > yangu, bali mapenzi yake aliyenipeleka. Na mapenzi yake aliyenipeleka
>>> > ni
>>> > haya, ya kwamba katika wote alionipa nisimpoteze hata mmoja, bali
>>> nimfufue
>>> > siku ya mwisho. Kwa kuwa mapenzi yake Baba yangu ni haya, ya kwamba
>>> > kila
>>> > amtazamaye Mwana na kumwamini yeye, awe na uzima wa milele; nami
>>> nitamfufua
>>> > siku ya mwisho (Yohana 6:37-40)
>>> > 5) Kwa sababu, ukimkiri Yesu kwa kinywa chako ya kuwa ni Bwana, na
>>> > kuamini moyoni mwako ya kuwa Mungu alimfufua katika wafu, utaokoka.
>>> > Kwa
>>> > maana kwa moyo mtu huamini hata kupata haki, na kwa kinywa hukiri hata
>>> > kupata wokovu. Kwa maana andiko lanena, Kila amwaminiye hatatahayarika
>>> > (Warumi 10:9-11).
>>> > 6) Basi, ndugu zangu, nawasihi, kwa huruma zake Mungu, itoeni miili
>>> yenu
>>> > iwe dhabihu iliyo hai, takatifu, ya kumpendeza Mungu, ndiyo ibada yenu
>>> yenye
>>> > maana. Wala msiifuatishe namna ya dunia hii; bali mgeuzwe kwa kufanywa
>>> upya
>>> > nia zenu, mpate kujua hakika mapenzi ya Mungu yaliyo mema, ya
>>> kumpendeza, na
>>> > ukamilifu (Warumi 12:1-2).
>>> > 7) Naye alituokoa katika nguvu za giza, akatuhamisha na kutuingiza
>>> katika
>>> > ufalme wa Mwana wa pendo lake; ambaye katika yeye tuna ukombozi,
>>> > yaani,
>>> > msamaha wa dhambi; (Wakolosai 1:13-14)
>>> > 8) Bali ninyi ni mzao mteule, ukuhani wa kifalme, taifa takatifu,
>>> watu wa
>>> > milki ya Mungu, mpate kuzitangaza fadhili zake yeye aliyewaita mtoke
>>> gizani
>>> > mkaingie katika nuru yake ya ajabu; ninyi mliokuwa kwanza si taifa,
>>> > bali
>>> > sasa ni taifa la Mungu; mliokuwa hamkupata rehema, bali sasa mmepata
>>> > rehema.(1Petro 29-10)
>>> > Mwisho wa yote wokovu sio human creation. Ni mpango wa Mungu mwenywe
>>> > wa
>>> > kumuokoa mwanadamu. Na kwa vile vile ni mpango wa Mungu, chenye nguvu
>>> > ni
>>> > imani. Basi imani ni kuwa na hakika ya mambo yatarajiwayo, ni bayana
>>> > ya
>>> > mambo yasiyoonekana. Maana kwa hiyo wazee wetu walishuhudiwa. Kwa
>>> > imani
>>> > twafahamu ya kuwa ulimwengu uliumbwa kwa neno la Mungu, hata vitu
>>> > vinavyoonekana havikufanywa kwa vitu vilivyo dhahiri. (Waebrania 11:1)
>>> >
>>> > Na kama vile haitoshi Biblia inasema, " Lakini pasipo imani
>>> > haiwezekani
>>> > kumpendeza; kwa maana mtu amwendeaye Mungu lazima aamini kwamba yeye
>>> yuko,
>>> > na kwamba huwapa thawabu wale wamtafutao."(Waebrania 11:6)
>>> >
>>> > Wasalaam
>>> >
>>> > MM
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > _____________________________________________________
>>> > Mathew Mndeme, PgD, MSc, BSc (Hons)
>>> > Assistant Lecturer and Information Systems Analyst
>>> > Department of Computer Science and Engineering
>>> > College of Information and Communication Technologies
>>> > University of Dar es Salaam
>>> > P.O. Box 35062, Dar es Salaam
>>> > Mobile: +255 (0) 782 581941<
>>> https://192.168.114.74/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx>
>>> > / 713 581941 / 756 581941
>>> > Alternative E-mail: mathewmndeme@udsm.ac.tz<mailto:
>>> mathewmndeme@udsm.ac.tz>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2013/12/26 Bariki Mwasaga
>>> > <bmwasaga@gmail.com<mailto:bmwasaga@gmail.com
>>> >>
>>> > Reuben
>>> > Bahati nzuri Biblia niisomayo inasema aaminie na kubatizwa ataokoka.
>>> > Kwa
>>> > lugha nyingine ya kibiblia ni kwamba kila atakayempokea Mwana wa Mungu
>>> > atafanyika naye Mwana wa Mungu ni hivi ndivyo Nicodemu alivyoelezwa
>>> > akafanye na Kristo zamani zile. Haya yanafanyika vipi basi ndiyo
>>> > unarudi
>>> kwa
>>> > Paulo mtume kwenye Warumi 10:9-10. Huyu Paulo Mtume anasema siyo
>>> > kwamba
>>> > ameeishafika bali anakaza mwendo ili aweze kufikia ile mede ya
>>> > thawabu
>>> ya
>>> > mwito mkuu wa Kristo. Wokovu ni safari ambayo katika kitabu cha Ufunuo
>>> > wa
>>> > Yohana kuna mahali ile mlango wa 3 anauliza...je uko wapi ule upendo
>>> > wa
>>> > kwanza? Kwanini kauliza hivyo ni kwasababu mtu alimwamini Mungu
>>> (aliokoka)
>>> > baadaye akaiacha hiyo njia na ndiyo maana malaika ametumwa kuulizia
>>> > hilo
>>> > katika Kanisa.
>>> > Ushauri kwa wote,
>>> > Haya masuala ya imani kila mtu ana imani yake na sidhani kama ni
>>> > baraka
>>> > kuanza kumpinga mtu mwingine kuhusu maandiko ambayo yeye anayaamini.
>>> Kama ni
>>> > kinyume na uelewa wako basi bora ukae kimya. Maandiko kuhusu wokovu
>>> yamejaa
>>> > tele tunaweza kugeuza jukwaa kuwa mimbari tuanze kuhubiri.
>>> > On Dec 26, 2013 5:08 PM, "Reuben Mwandumbya"
>>> > <ipyana75@yahoo.com<mailto:ipyana75@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Misango;
>>> > Kuongoka ndiko kupo kwa wanaojiita walokole na kuokaka ni baada ya
>>> kupitia
>>> > mauti huko mbele ya safari utajua ulitenda uliyopasa kuyatenda kwa
>>> mujibu wa
>>> > mafundisho ya Mwenyezi au kwa watakao bahatika siku ya parapanda ndipo
>>> > watajua nafasi zao.
>>> >
>>> > Sio ajabu siku ya mwisho tukaja kushuhudia hata
>>> Maaskofu,Wachungaji,Mashehe
>>> > n.k tupo nao motoni,ndipo hapo tutakapo ulizana mara mbili tatu kwamba
>>> hata
>>> > wewe ndugu upo huku??
>>> >
>>> > Ndio kuna kusema kwamba fuata maneno yangu usifuate matendo,mana upo
>>> > uwezekano wa watu wanaosema wameokoka kuwa wameongoka,hivyo sababu
>>> hatuwezi
>>> > kuhakiki ukweli wao,siku ya mwisho ndipo tutajua maharage na soya.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thursday, December 26, 2013 4:53 PM, Charles Misango
>>> > <misangocharles@yahoo.com<mailto:misangocharles@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>> > Paschal na Reuben nisaidieni swahili hili. Nini tofauti kati ya
>>> > KUONGOKA
>>> na
>>> > KUOKOKA? maana mleta hoja ametulazimisha tujadili na mambo mengine
>>> > zaidi
>>> > kama alivyosema Mashaka kwamba njia aliyotumia kufikisha ujumbe
>>> > haikuwa
>>> > sahihi sana
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thursday, December 26, 2013 4:21 PM, Mashaka Mgeta
>>> > <mgeta2000@yahoo.com<mailto:mgeta2000@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>> > Swali kwa Jane.
>>> >
>>> > Unajuaje kama miongoni mwa zaidi ya 1500, walikuwamo wanaoishi na VVU,
>>> hivyo
>>> > kilichofanyika ni KUBADILISHANA virusi hivyo na si wewe kuwaambukiza?
>>> >
>>> > Nadhani ulilenga kuionya jamii kuhusu uovu na maovu lakini 'njia'
>>> > uliyoitumia haitoi jawabu hata la kuonyesha kwamba UMEOKOKA.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thursday, December 26, 2013 5:10 AM, Reuben Mwandumbya
>>> > <ipyana75@yahoo.com<mailto:ipyana75@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>> > Pascal;
>>> > Mkatoliki sio wewe pekee,tupo/wapo wengi,uokovu usiuchukulie rahisi
>>> dhambi
>>> > zipo za makundi manne mawazo,maneno,matendo na kutotimiza wajibu. Hapa
>>> sio
>>> > rahisi kuchomoka na kusema umeokoka kaka,otherwise ntakuwa sijui maana
>>> > ya
>>> > kuokoka,lakini maana yake ni kwamba hupatikani katika hizi zote sasa
>>> > wewe
>>> > utakuwa sio binadamu.
>>> >
>>> > Hata hivyo imani ni jambo la mtu binafsi,lets leave it.
>>> >
>>> > Skukuu njema.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thursday, December 26, 2013 3:31 PM, Paschal Leon
>>> > <paschalleon@yahoo.com<mailto:paschalleon@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>> > toa andiko, achana na sisi wakatoliki, hiyo iko kwenye biblia ipi?
>>> > wokovu
>>> > upo, ni mtazamo wako mdogo na kutotumia Roho Mtakatifu akufunulie,
>>> > soma
>>> John
>>> > 3 yote kwa kuomba ufunuo utaona hata Nicodemu hakujua maana ya wokovu
>>> > sembuse wewe mkatoliki?
>>> >
>>> > From: Reuben Mwandumbya
>>> > <ipyana75@yahoo.com<mailto:ipyana75@yahoo.com>>
>>> > To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com<mailto:wanabidii@googlegroups.com>"
>>> > <wanabidii@googlegroups.com<mailto:wanabidii@googlegroups.com>>
>>> > Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 3:21 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Nawahurumia wake zao ambao wana UKIMWI
>>> > uliotoka
>>> > kwangu
>>> >
>>> > Comrade Lutinwa;
>>> > Exactly my friend,there you are.
>>> > Pia kwa sisi wakatoliki tunajua you can not claim 'saved' kabla
>>> > hujapitia
>>> > mauti.
>>> > Binadamu tunaishi kwa kutenda zambi,huwezi kusema nimeokoka bado
>>> > unaishi,shida ya walokole wanazani zambi ni pombe na kuzini tu.
>>> > Merry boxing day Jomba.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Thursday, December 26, 2013 1:43 PM, Lushengo Lutinwa
>>> > <lutinwa@gmail.com<mailto:lutinwa@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> > Even with this confession I still regard you as a devil; although you
>>> > consider yourself saved.
>>> > On 26 Dec 2013 11:55, "Jane Mwakalukwa"
>>> > <mwakalukwa@gmail.com<https://192.168.114.74/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx>>
>>> > wrote:
>>> > Mimi ni Jane naishi mwenge Dar es Salaam naomba utalifuta jina la baba
>>> yangu
>>> > maana sitaki liwe kwenye blog watu watanijua na kuniangamiza maana
>>> > nimeshawaangamiza wengi sana kwa UKIMWI ila mengine yote usifute hata
>>> moja
>>> > ili dunia ijue tu japokua mimi nitakufa kwa huu ukimwi nilionao.
>>> >
>>> > Nilizaliwa mkoa wa Dodoma na nilishi vizuri tu tangu utotoni na hata
>>> > sikujihusisha na ngono hadi nilipomaliza form 4 mwaka 2006 baada ya
>>> kumaliza
>>> > nilikuja hapa Dar kuishi kwa mama mdogo aliyeolewa hapa Mwenge.
>>> >
>>> > Nilipata marafiki wengi tu na kuna kijana mmoja alinitongoza kwa muda
>>> mrefu
>>> > sana na siunajua vijana wengi hutumia
>>> > muda mrefu kutongoza ili msichana unadhani kwamba labda huyo
>>> > anakupenda
>>> > kumbe anataka tu ngono na wadada wengi sana hudhani kufuatiliwa kwa
>>> > muda
>>> > mrefu na mvulana basi huyo yuko serious kumbe hakuna lolote.
>>> >
>>> > Nilimkubalia tukawa wapenzi ila nilikataa kuhusu kufanya mapenzi maana
>>> > anayekupenda kiukweli sio uongo lazima asitake ngono kabla ya ndoa.
>>> >
>>> > Kwa miezi kama 5 hadi 6 aliniambia kuhusu kufanya mapenzi nilikataa
>>> alitumia
>>> > mbinu nyingi sana kwa kunibembeleza na hata kulia mbele yangu ili
>>> tufanye tu
>>> > mara moja ila nilikataa, alisema atavumilia hadi siku ya ndoa yetu
>>> > ambapo
>>> > tulipanga kuoana mwaka sept 2009.
>>> >
>>> > Siku moja aliniambia twende kwenye kumbi za starehe na mimi kwa sababu
>>> > ya
>>> > upagani na kumwamini pia kwa sababu nampenda nilikubali tulienda huko
>>> > na
>>> > kulikua na bendi fulani maarufu ya mziki wa dansi ilikua inatumbuiza.
>>> >
>>> > Tulitafuta sehemu na kukaa na mpenzi wangu akaagiza pombe alianza
>>> > kunywa
>>> > huku akinionjesha, nilikataa kwa sababu nilikua sijawahi kunywa pombe
>>> katika
>>> > maisha yangu yote, hata sijui alinishawishi vipi nilijikuta nakunywa
>>> kidogo
>>> > kidogo na kwa kuwa tulikaa pale kwa muda zaidi ya masaa 5 nadhani
>>> nikunywa
>>> > kama bia 3 au 4 japokua nilikua nakunywa kidogo kidogo tu tena kwa
>>> kunywesha
>>> > na mpenzi wangu maana nikama nikua nanyweshwa kila baada kama ya
>>> > dakika
>>> 25
>>> > ndipo nakunywa mara moja na sikujuia kama nakunywa pombe ila niliihisi
>>> > tu
>>> > naonja ili kumlizisha mpenzi wangu.
>>> >
>>> > Ilipofika saa 10 alfajiri nilihisi usingizi na pia nilijiona wa
>>> > tofauti
>>> > najua nililewa hata kama sikujua kama nimelewa maana nakumbuka
>>> > tulitoka
>>> pale
>>> > huku amenishika mkono huyo mpenzi wangu. Tulikodo tax na kuondoka na
>>> > siku
>>> > hiyo aliniambia twende kwake alikokua amepanga chumba maana tulikua na
>>> > usingizi sana nilikubali huku nikidhani hatuwezi kufanya mapenzi.
>>> >
>>> > Tulifika salama na kuingia ndani ukweli pombe ni kichocheo cha ngono
>>> > na
>>> > ningekua mimi ndio Raisi wa Tanzania ningefunga bar zote. Nilijikuta
>>> > natamani kufanya mapenzi na huyu mpenzi wangu hata alikua hana nia
>>> > maana
>>> > alijua atanichukiza sana na uhusiano ungekufa siku hiyo lakini kwa
>>> sababu ya
>>> > pombe nilimwambia siku hiyo tufanye kidogo maana mwili wangu unataka.
>>> >
>>> > Ni kweli siku hiyo kwa sababu ya pombe nilifanya mapenzi na huyo
>>> > mpenzi
>>> > wangu na baadae akanipeleka nyumbani baada ya wiki mbili maana tulikaa
>>> wiki
>>> > mbili bila kuonana alikuja na kunieleza habari ambayo sikuihitaji
>>> > katika
>>> > maisha yangu maana nilikua nasikia tu kwa watu wengine lakini sio
>>> > kwangu
>>> > alisema "JANE ISHI KWA MATUMAINI KUANZIA SASA"
>>> >
>>> > Nilidhani utani lakini aliniambia kuwa yeye ana UKIMWI tangu miaka
>>> > mitano
>>> > iliyopita na anapenda tu ngono maana hawezi kuacha.
>>> >
>>> > Nililia sana na baada ya wiki moja baadae nikaenda kupima na kukutwa
>>> > nina
>>> > ugojwa ambao niliusikia tu kwa watu na chanzo cha yote ni pombe,
>>> > kupenda
>>> > starehe,disko na upagani unaotusumbua wanadamu wengi.
>>> >
>>> > Nilikua na UKIMWI na kwa hasira maana mpenzi wangu alihamia Arusha
>>> > huku
>>> > akisema neno moja la mwisho kwamba "shetani amemtuma kuwaambukiza
>>> wanadamu
>>> > UKIMWI"
>>> >
>>> > Sikujua, sikujua, sikujua, sikujuaaaaaaaaa, basi tu ooh YESU nihurumie
>>> mimi
>>> > leo. Nilibebeshwa mzigo ambao haukunistahili mimi. Hata leo hua
>>> > najiuliza
>>> > kwamba nilijitunza kwa miaka 23 yote lakini pombe na huyu wakala wa
>>> shetani
>>> > wamenifanyia hivi. Baada ya kujua nina UKIMWI na hali hiyo nikaikubali
>>> > na
>>> > kulikua na kundi kubwa sana la wanaume ambao walikua wamewahi
>>> kunitongoza na
>>> > niliwakataa sana kwa sababu hii niliwakubali ili nami nife na wengi.
>>> >
>>> > Nilianza kumkubali kila mmoja na kuna baba mmoja ambaye ana wake 3
>>> niliwahi
>>> > kumtukana sana kipindi cha nyuma kila aliponitongoza lakini wakati huu
>>> > nilimkubali na hakuamini na tukafanya ngono tena bila kinga na
>>> akaniaachia
>>> > pesa laki 6 kama zawadi ya kumkubali kumbe naye hakujua kuwa
>>> namwambukiza na
>>> > hata leo hua nawahurumia tu wale wake zake ambao wana UKIMWI uliotoka
>>> > kwangu.
>>> >
>>> > Kiukweli tangu Mei 2009 hadi 2012 nimeshatembea na wanaume zaidi 1500
>>> maana
>>> > ilifika kipindi nala na wanaume 3 kwa siku na lengo langu niwakomeshe
>>> kama
>>> > mimi nilivyokomeshwa na nina uhakika kutokana na mimi wameambukizwa
>>> UKIMWI
>>> > wanadamu zaidi ya 10,000 na hili tangazo la "TUKO WANGAPI" huwa
>>> linaniliza
>>> > kila siku maana hata mimi najua kabisa nilianzisha mtandao kama huo wa
>>> ngono
>>> > kwa idadi kubwa sana ya watu.
>>> >
>>> > Nimeokoka miezi 7 iliyopita na siku naombewa nilikutwa na mapepo mengi
>>> sana
>>> > na hata waombeaji wakashangaa. Ningejua ningeokoka tangu nikiwa na
>>> > miaka
>>> 5
>>> > lakini ndio hivyo sina jinsi wala uwezo wa kubadirisha hali hiyo.
>>> >
>>> > Na naomba kila atakayesoma ujumbe huu ajue kuanzia leo kuwa pombe ni
>>> dhambi
>>> > pia kwenda disko ni dhambi ,kuuza pombe ni dhambi na kila kichochoe
>>> chochote
>>> > cha dhambi ni dhambi. Hadi sasa mtu yeyote hawezi kujua kama nina
>>> > UKIMWI
>>> na
>>> > sijui MUNGU ana mpango gani na mimi maana kwake yote yanawezekana.
>>> Nauamini
>>> > uponyaji wake na sijawahi kutumia ARV hata siku moja na afya yangu iko
>>> sawa
>>> > tu na huwezi hata wewe kujua kama uovu huu nimefanya mimi.
>>> >
>>> > Ndugu zangu kama una UKIMWI nenda kanisani ukaombewe na kama una akili
>>> mpe
>>> > YESU maisha yako maana pia baada ya kifo ni hukumu. Yasalimishe maisha
>>> yako
>>> > kwa YESU na usiambukize wengine tena.
>>> >
>>> > Mimi tangu niokoke sijawahi kufanya mapenzi tena na sitafanya hivyo
>>> > wala
>>> > sitaolewa na mtu yeyote maana yatosha kwa uovu niliofanya na hadi sasa
>>> wapo
>>> > ninaowajua zaidi ya 15 wameshafariki na nilihudhulia misibani huku
>>> nikijua
>>> > kabisa chanzo ni mimi.
>>> >
>>> > Mwisho nawashauri wababa kulidhika na wake zao na wamama pia ridhikeni
>>> > na
>>> > waume zenu, vijana ambao hamjaoa wala kuolewa subiri hadi utakapooa au
>>> > kuolewa na kabla ya kuolewa au kuoa kapimeni kwanza kwani wenye UKIMWI
>>> > ni
>>> > wengi kuliko unavyodhani.
>>> >
>>> > Fuata unachofundishwa kanisani na pia soma BIBLIA na uwe mtakatifu.
>>> >
>>> > MUNGU akubariki
>>> >
>>> > Ni mimi Jane,
>>> > Mwenge, Dar es salaam
>>> > Tanzania
>>> >
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