Re: [wanabidii] Rwanda: Kagame, Kerry Discuss Regional Security

Is this responding to the question? Probably. But may be the question at hand is the causative of the Eastern Congo problem goingalone to the Us to plead for clemence istead of wanting to reconcile with DRC. Peace may not come in the region by meeting the Secretary of state and telling him lies, but comming to regional perteners and discussing the trueth. Part of that trueth is that Rwandans are in the busdh. Fighting for their rights. They need to be listened to. etc, etc

From: Joseph Ludovick <josephludovick@gmail.com>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 9:26 AM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Rwanda: Kagame, Kerry Discuss Regional Security

America is not Tanzania.  the secretary of state is empowerd to talk
in full capacity. what irritate you is kagame would have met Obama or
what!
  you dought that because the issue is caarried out by secretary of
state then it is less important? how then is it done? tell us!!

On 9/29/13, ELISA MUHINGO <elisamuhingo@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is it Ludo?
> Our President meeting Madiwani to discuss a serious agenda like the
> president was discussing with the Secretary of State?
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Joseph Ludovick <josephludovick@gmail.com>
> To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 6:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Rwanda: Kagame, Kerry Discuss Regional Security
>
>
> Judy, you are no  body to call people insane. the crooked presidend is
> that who is on the HAGUE. Kagame keep exceling on international fora.
> and this makes you jelous. against your expectations Kenya has
> completely failed to attract the US regardless that Obama is of a
> Kenyan discent. Kagame is a key  player and you have not to forget how
> the Clinton and Blair came to his defence recently.
>   Elisa that is no wonder. many african presidents when in America,
> their treatment is not as if in africa. our president only met the
> ward councilord (madiwani). is that far better than meet the secretary
> of state?
>   Kagame knows what it means to be the president,  unlike the uhuruto
> who lead via skype
>
> On 9/29/13, ELISA MUHINGO <elisamuhingo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> One need to learn alot.
>> 1) The meeting was between the President of a country and the Foreighn
>> affairs of anotherone. That is how US value Rwanda.
>> 2) Discussing Regional stability with Kagame? A Jock. Were kidding.
>> 3) =====
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Judy Miriga <socioeconomicforum50@gmail.com>
>> To: jbatec@yahoo.com
>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:53 PM
>> Subject: [wanabidii] Rwanda: Kagame, Kerry Discuss Regional Security
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Good people of the World,
>>
>>
>>
>> Kagame is a crook and insane. He does not deserve to be
>> treated with a golden glove. He must be told the same
>> in no uncertain terms that, he must stop killing the Congo
>> people and he must begin to pack-off his M23 from Congo
>> Land and keep them in his Rwanda baracks.................
>> Judy Miriga
>> Diaspora Spokesperson &
>> Executive Director for
>> Confederation Council Foundation for Africa
>> USA
>> http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com
>> email: jbatec@yahoo.com
>>
>>
>> Rwanda: Kagame, Kerry Discuss Regional Security
>> By Frank Kanyesigye, 27 September 2013
>> President Paul Kagame and the US Secretary of State John Kerry on
>> Thursday
>> held bilateral talks which revolved around the security situation in the
>> Great Lakes region, particularly in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo
>> (DRC).
>> The meeting sought mechanisms that will enable Rwanda and the US to
>> maintain
>> close working relations in efforts towards restoring peace and security
>> in
>> the region.
>> Addressing journalists shortly after the meeting in New York, Foreign
>> Affairs Minister Louise Mushikiwabo, said: "The forum was about working
>> more
>> closely with the US government on regional stability, while preserving
>> the
>> core security interest of our country and keep moving on to eventually
>> reach
>> at state of stability in the region."
>> "The meeting was very productive, it was about where we are today and
>> what
>> needs to be done to actually get out of the crisis mood that has
>> prevailed
>> since April last year, it was about securing the interests of Rwanda and
>> supporting Rwanda's contribution to regional stability," she said.
>> She added, "It's important to remember that the kind of understanding and
>> analysis that has prevailed in the eastern DRC has been superficial."
>> Earlier this month, a regional Heads of State summit on the DRC crisis
>> was
>> held in the Ugandan capital Kampala, to find a "lasting solution" to the
>> ongoing conflict, which last month threatened to spill over to Rwanda,
>> after
>> 36 mortar bombs landed into the border district of Rubavu.
>> Kigali responded by warning that the continued violation of its
>> territorial
>> integrity by the Congolese forces and FDLR, a genocidal militia would no
>> longer be tolerated.
>> Mushikiwabo said that there are many aspects and complexities that shroud
>> the crisis in the DRC that have been overlooked.
>> "We talked about those aspects and looking at the DR Congo crisis as one
>> in
>> many successive crises that we have known since the end of the Genocide
>> against the Tutsi," said the minister.
>> She particularly said that the continued existence FDLR militia on the
>> Congolese territory is always overlooked by the international community,
>> yet
>> this group is an important part of the problem.
>> "The FDLR is not an issue that should be overlooked; we have seen in
>> recent
>> years that it's been swept under the rug almost to the point of acting as
>> if
>> this current crisis has no origin."
>> FDLR is composed of elements responsible for the 1994 Genocide against
>> the
>> Tutsi in Rwanda in which over a million people died in a space of 100
>> days.
>> The militia is also accused of human rights violations in DRC.
>> Asked whether the US understands the root cause of the DRC crisis,
>> Mushikiwabo said that she believes the US understands "very well" that
>> the
>> centre of the crisis is the FDLR.
>> "The US understands what is at stake and strongly believes that Rwanda has
>> a
>> security interest that needs to be protected but how that feeds into
>> other
>> aspects of the crisis is what needs to be adjusted in order for us to
>> move
>> on."
>> At the meeting, she said that Secretary Kerry pointed out that the DRC
>> crisis has too many actors and interests that are both known and unknown
>> who
>> make it difficult to implement the activities that have been agreed upon
>> to
>> bring stability in the region.
>> -----------------------------------
>> COMMENTS:
>> serge65
>> Sep 27 2013, 17:01
>> What Secretary of state john Kerry has told kagame is to get his hands
>> off
>> Congo because the US, UN, EU, AU and all knows exactly that the problem
>> is
>> M23 and Rwanda, nothing else. The Congolese which has not taken part in
>> any
>> genocide are the one suffering with millions dead, not the Rwandans,
>> therefore this games that kagame wants to play by so called blaiming
>> others
>> has come to an end. Congolese must have peace and they must enjoy their
>> many
>> riches.
>> -----------------------
>> Congo-Kinshasa: DR Congo President Calls for Altruism in New Global Push
>> for
>> Sustainable Development
>> 25 September 2013
>> President Joseph Kabila of the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC)
>> warned
>> today that the selfishness of some States could threaten efforts to set a
>> new sustainable development agenda for the decades ahead.
>> "At a time when the question of post-2015 development is high on the
>> agenda,
>> the international community is more and more marked by the failure of
>> certain of its members to respect the fundamental principles of
>> international relations, the persistent selfishness of some States and
>> the
>> convulsions of the world economy," he told the General Assembly on the
>> second day of its annual General Debate.
>> "The consequences that this entails are multiple. They range from attacks
>> against peace to murderous conflicts, from a globalization that is
>> essentially fuelled by the unbridled pursuit of profit to the
>> exacerbation
>> of poverty."
>> President Kabila is one many leaders addressing the annual Assembly
>> session
>> at which heads of State and Government and other high-level officials
>> will
>> present their views and comments on issues of individual national and
>> international relevance. The Debate will conclude on 1 October.
>> The theme of this year's 68th Assembly is the post-2015 development
>> agenda,
>> aimed at drawing up an even more ambitious blueprint to totally eliminate
>> poverty and its attendant ills in the decades following the end of the
>> Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) cycle.
>> The eight (MDGs), adopted at the 2000 UN summit, aim to slash extreme
>> hunger
>> and poverty, boost access to health care and education, achieve gender
>> equality and environmental stability, and reduce maternal and child
>> mortality and the incidence of HIV/AIDS, all by the end of 2015.
>> "The new programme that we are called upon to set up must be universal,
>> ambitious, capable of responding to the immense challenges that humankind
>> confronts, and able to engender positive transformations on the basis of
>> the
>> principle of shared and differentiated responsibilities," Mr. Kabila
>> said,
>> stressing the importance of engaging women, youth and civil society in
>> the
>> process.
>> "In this context, I hope that the proposals coming out of this session
>> will
>> embody our common desire to prioritize the economic, social and
>> environmental dimension of sustainable development. These proposals must
>> cover local, national and regional development programmes. They must also
>> fuel a bold international cooperation and reflect the will of each of our
>> States to contribute to peace and international security."
>> Turning to his own vast country, where violence still continues in the
>> east
>> despite the efforts of UN peacekeepers to bring stability over the past
>> 13
>> years, Mr. Kabila noted the irony that part of the problem stemmed from
>> the
>> DRC's willingness to accept refugees in the wake of the Rwandan genocide
>> of
>> 1994.
>> Without peace, sustainable development in the DRC remained "only
>> hypothetical," he said noting that the eastern region, particularly in
>> and
>> around the flashpoint city of Goma, has seen little respite from fighting
>> since the peacekeepers helped bring relative stability and elections to
>> much
>> of the rest of the country following vicious civil wars. Mr. Kabila
>> thanked
>> the UN, regional African organizations and the European Union for their
>> aid
>> and support.
>> He pledged his country's full support to the recently agreed regional
>> accord, formally known as the Peace, Security and Cooperation Framework
>> for
>> the DRC and the Region.
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