Saturday 25 August 2012

[wanabidii] Fwd: [PK] What else ?

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From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2012 23:00:36 -0400
Subject: Re: [PK] What else ?
To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
Cc: Young Proffessionals <youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com>

Pastor,

I want to apologize for not noticing this mail earlier. It's an
important subject that we should have been discussing all day long
instead of dwelling on the Miguna saga.

This guy calling himself The Atheist really gets on my nerves and a
lot of times I don't bother responding to his postings. I get tempted
to argue with him at times but I hold back because I find it pointless
to argue with somebody about my faith. I don't have to explain or
justfy my faith. That is why it's called faith. It does not need to be
explained or justified.

Sasa kurudi kwenye swala la Evolution and Creation. The Atheist wants
to tell us that we humans are here due to evolution. But our faith
tells us that we were created by God. This is an interesting argument
that I would like to take up with some of those Atheists out there.
I'm going to use a point that Laktar Nyandoto once made that caught my
eye.
Let's assume that we're here as a result of Evolution. That means we
started out as some chemical and then eventually became a life form
which then evolved over thousands or millions of years to finally
become humans. My question to the Atheist is to tell us a brief
description of what he theorizes those stages of Evolution are/were.
Suppose he bluffs his way through that question, the next question now
is:

If we evolved through certain stages to finally become himans, then
science tells us that that evolution should still be going on even now
and there should be evidence of on-going various stages of Evolution.
Where are they? I would like The Atheist to point to me some animals
or life forms that are currently undergoing Evolution towards becoming
humans. Where are they?

Tinda (end of my ranting).

Courage,
Oduor Maurice


On 8/25/12, Pastor Absalom Birai <prbirai@gmail.com> wrote:
> Human beings are on record to have given God hard times; always disobedient
> and questioning anything to do with God. God on His part is known to be
> patient,forgiving and always giving them yet another chance peradventure
> they might realize their foolishness and repent
>
> Both the Old Testament and the New Testament often times gives a picture of
> God almost giving up. God,through His prophet Isaiah wondered "What more
> could have been done for my vineyard than I have done for it? When I looked
> for good grapes, why did it yield only bad?{Isaiah 5:4) What's painfully
> interesting is the fact that this message was for those that God considered
> as His elect. Having known the character of God and accepted the wonderful
> privilege of being known as His chosen people,they still wandered far away
> from God leaving God wondering as to what to do next.Mercy !
>
> The same stubbornness was repeated during the time of Jesus on earth. His
> efforts to reach the lost sheep was made by resistance. At the end of His
> mission, He echoed this painful words:
>
> "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those
> who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together,
> as a hen gathers her chicks under *her* wings, but you were not willing!
> See!
> Your house is left to you desolate; for I say to you, you shall see Me no
> more till you say, 'Blessed *is* He who comes in the name of the Lord!' "(
> Matthew 23:37-39)
>
> Are where any different? No way. Both those who know Him and those that
> have chosen otherwise have unfortunately chosen the opposing side. They
> have chosen to question God, the Bible, creation and most if not all
> doctrines. Will they succeed? No way. Like their forefathers, they will
> fall by the way while God and anything associated with God will live for
> ever. Its in vain that we question God. In the end, we'll regret in ashes.
>
> The choice is yours. Chose you this day whether to continue being anti-God
> or pro-God. I chose long time ago to be pro-God and I have never sen the
> need to abandon that camp. How about you?
>
> Pastor Birai
>
> www.pastorbirai.com
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