First things first;-
Who coated who in UDF -VS- TNA/URP Pact!
Does Mudavadi = UDF!
On his 'defection' from ODM,Mudavadi's interests were on or about nominations from the county level and nothing else.
Now we are being told about Uhuru stepping down for Mudavadi - how democratic is Mudavadi when he cannot demonstrate the same in UDF,as well being stepped down by an ambitious presidential candidate!
If Uhuru wont step down,Mudavadi ata do!
If Uhuru steps down,It all means that Mudavadi is not his own man! But why did TNA enter into a coalition with Mudavadi having entered with Rutos URP!
Some of those that are throwing tanturums knows very well that with Uhuru off the presidency radder,royalty will shift and they will find themselves in cold waters! For them,the Uhuru/Party factor is all they care to plunge them unto elective offices.
Good people,invest calmness for any eventuality given that the political simmerings do not guarantee your candidate winning as the old sweet order is surely under threat!
Evans Machera
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Sungu.
This is a stage managed thing to give credence for Uhuru's bid. These people aren't fools. They have Uhuru's 24 hours phone number and could call him and tell him to stay put for the top job. "Go and say this so we see how the nation will respond," that is how is see the Sonko, Shebesh and Kabando thing.
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Shebesh,Kabando,Sonko among others reject Mudavadi,insist Uhuru is flagbearer.They warn Kibakis men not to impose Mudavadi as a project.They later met the PM.
Meanwhile,URPs Dujis warns UDF on porojo for signing an agreement with KANU. Tells UDF to take a walk if they so wish.
Coalitions,coalitions!
Sungu.
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On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 10:06 AM CST Kuria-Mwangi wrote:
>Kibet
>Except on a few occasions when okello get carried by ODM stuff, this man
>Okello is very sober. That is why I said I dont mind him throw omenas at me
>because they are harmless. He does not get emotional and so lose his mind
>like some people you have mentioned in the past who I cannot mention
>because I know some folks who know them and they can interfere with my
>progress on lays involving ODM sisters-2 Kisiis and 3 Luo women, all based
>here in Baltimore and they know some folks in these forums. I would rather
>keep the friendship with them than get sick after being served mbuta soup
>which is laced with poison or matoke laced with drugs which turn me into a
>zoombie only capable of praising Raila. Now they have no reason to poison
>me with ODM sumu or is it Placenta/Cord sumu? I sincerely think the likes
>of Maurice Khaguli and Fred Obed were poisoned otherwise their behavior
>even shocks those in ODM like Okello who are sober and so able to see the
>difference between supporting somebody and being confused.
>
>
>
>On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:59 AM, john kibet <mailto:kcheruiyot%40yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>
>>
>> Brother Okello,
>>
>> I must say that I am really, really impressed with your observation. I
>> wish we had many ODMers like you.
>>
>> Yours is a sober observation and not a run of the mill ODM standard line.
>> I know you and me don't necessarily agree on a lot of things. But I
>> RESPECT SUCH A SOBER AND THOUGHTFUL MIND on the issue. Straight and to
>> the point, devoid of the usual GLORIFICATION of Raila Odinga.
>>
>> I might not necessarily agree with most of your assessment, but I RESPECT
>> it. You are right when you say I personalized some of the things I said.
>> But put it in context and see how I think of Tinga. Then you will
>> understand why I approach things that way. Its not a justification, but
>> it's just the way it is for me.
>>
>> Hopefully, we get more ODMers like you--sane and coherent.
>>
>> John K
>> USC
>> USA
>>
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>> *From:* okello emmanuel <mailto:oldiya%40yahoo.co.uk>
>> *To:* "mailto:uchunguzionline%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:uchunguzionline%40yahoogroups.com>;
>> "mailto:uchunguzionline%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:uchunguzionline%40yahoogroups.com>; "
>> mailto:kcheruiyot%40yahoo.com" <mailto:kcheruiyot%40yahoo.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 5, 2012 7:08 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [uchunguzionline] WHAT IS HENRY KOSGEI UP TO???
>>
>>
>> Kibet,
>> I agree with you it's tough on Kosgey, having been steadfast in ODM, to
>> have somebody come in from the blues and taking over as running mate for
>> ODM.
>> The way I see it is that there's nothing personal about it, fact is that
>> coalition arrangements have to be made with other parties in the attempt to
>> win elections, and most ppl will not agree to coalitions which diminish
>> their influence.
>> Unfortunately you choose to personalize the issue as being Railas
>> thanklessness, knowing very well that it's not up to Raila to choose who
>> becomes running mate as ODM is chock a block full of both raw and polished
>> talent.
>> I find it positive that KOSGEY is promising to fight it out with Kalonzo,
>> ie willing to subject himself to a competitive process.
>>
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> * From: * john kibet <mailto:kcheruiyot%40yahoo.com>;
>> * To: * mailto:uchunguzionline%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:uchunguzionline%40yahoogroups.com>;
>> mailto:uchunguzionline%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:uchunguzionline%40yahoogroups.com>;
>> * Subject: * [uchunguzionline] WHAT IS HENRY KOSGEI UP TO???
>> * Sent: * Wed, Dec 5, 2012 6:32:56 PM
>>
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I wonder what's afoot with the Tinderet MP. I thought things were kosher
>> in ODM and everybody was celebrating after Kalonzo was brought in. Why
>> would Kosgei, all over suddenly make a visit to URP headquarters, where
>> conveniently Uhuru, Rutto and the rest of the crew were present??
>>
>> Me think that something is afoot here. When asked some questions after the
>> meeting, he said that.. "We have cultivate this piece of land (ODM) to
>> get rid of weeds. I am not going to allow the VP to benefit from our sweat.
>> I am still in the race to become the PM's running mate, ..."
>> http://www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Kosgey-meets-Ruto-after-coalition-rally/-/1064/1636812/-/hlevj0/-/index.html
>> . This is very loaded folks.
>>
>> With the ODM delegates choosing its presidential flagbearer and his
>> running mate next week,it is a foregone conclusion that Raila Odinga will
>> have the top post and Kalonzo deputy position. Any idiot can tell you that.
>> Its not rocket science. The issue is, how will Henry Kosgei FEEL? BETRAYED?
>> Definitely.
>>
>> This is a man who had TO PAY FOR RAILA'S SINS AT THE HAGUE. This man has
>> sacrificed a lot for Raila Odinga. He has suffered in silence for Raila and
>> now INSTEAD OF BEING REWARDED, he's STABBED ON HIS BACK by Kalonzo being
>> given the running-mate slot.
>>
>> It's amazing when you consider that Kalonzo won't bring any meaningful
>> votes to Raila and ODM. And I am not saying that Kosgei would have brought
>> any votes for Raila from Kalenjin land. All Kalenjin ODM MPs won't get
>> elected to any positions anyway. That is a fact.
>>
>> My point is about rewarding those who have been FAITHFUL to ODM. But it
>> comes to who Raila is----a thankless character who doesn't give a shit
>> about anyone so long as he can SACRIFICE them to get to power. Hopefully,
>> Kosgei come to his senses.
>>
>> He can use the ELEVATION of Kalonzo next week to JUMP ODM SHIP and be
>> assured of being elected as a Senator come next year.
>>
>> John K
>> University of Southern California
>> USA
>>
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