Wednesday 1 August 2012

[wanabidii] Re: Marry them, you will regret/enjoy.

JaGem,

Those who think that English is the most important thing in life are idiots. English is just another language. I would not worry about anyone who who is stupid enough to think that English is the be all and end all. Luo and Kiswahili are good enough for this son of Africa.

Courage





On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschurch@yahoo.com> wrote:
Paul,

I have said it here before and today I repeat it; It is only the unexposed little minded fellas who still think that talking fluent English is a big deal. If it was then Carlos Slim would not be the richest tycoon in the world.

English is just a language of communication. I have never liked it at all. The first two languages I love are: Mother tongue followed by "Kswaili". It makes me wonder why I can not be respected if am unable to write fluent English. Why do people go to the extent of correcting others here in the forum yet we have never asked for proof readers?

Jagem


Owuor  Willis thura;

Wambui and Kironji were not even married, they were just F**king each other. So how is marriage coming in here. Or you think his wife in USA is behind the murder and  this girl friend Wambui is innocent?.

Paul Nyandoto

Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 08:38:31 -0700
From: owuora4710@yahoo.com
Subject: Marry them, you will regret/enjoy.
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com; mkirario.088@gmail.com; mauricejoduor@yahoo.ca
CC: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com; kibisu.kabatesi@gmail.com; bungelamwananchi2011@gmail.com; jaluo@jaluo.com; wanakenya@googlegroups.com; youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com

Satan, down the isle,
It is now true no doubt. Samuel Kibet aka Wanjiru, etc suffered the same. These romantic girls make you wed nicely, and sign all documents (for estate, etc) then a few days you die. They remain with everything.
Choice of marriage partner (tribe) is paramount. This is a warning to all MEN all over the world. Be careful on the tribe to marry from. Some are very good, they will stay with you forever in any season. 
Is this a 'good' group?
Read below:  



Mark,

Yote uloyanenea nakubaliana nawe. Tatizo kubwa hapa ni kwamba mtu anayeishi Marekani Kiingereza hawezi !!!!  Si maajabu hayo kaka? Mtume !!! 

Akashindwa kabisa Kiingereza mbona basi asiandike kwa Kiswahili? Au aandike Kluo miye nindawatafsiria wengine.

Courage,
Oduor Maurice



On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Mark Okello <abneroumaokello@gmail.com> wrote:
Eeeh Mungu tunakuomba utuondelee laani hizi Afrika! Wakati wenzetu wanapiga hatua kila kukicha kwenye maendeleo sisi miongoni mwetu ymetawaliwa akili na fikra za kijinga ambazo zinaendeleza ukoloni mambo leo, etu tunaona sifa kuandika na kuongea kiingereza kiasi cha kufikia hatua ya kudhalilishana kwenye mitandao ya kijamii?! 

Kweli ndugu zetu hata nyie mlioko nje ya bara letu mnashiriki kwenye mijadala kama hii isiyokuwa na tija?! Hamjaona wenzetu wachina, wajerumani, wafaransa, na nchi nyingine za ulaya wanapigania kueneza lugha zao kwa nguvu zote? Ningeona busara zaidi mngekuwa mnabishana hapa kwa lugha yetu angalau kiswahili kwa kuwa sisi wana Afrika mashariki tunaunganishwa na kiswahili.

Tuache upumbavu na kuishabikia ukoloni wa fikra isokuwa na tija na tuanze kufanya kazi za maendeleo katika jamii yetu.

Ndo mawazo yangu finyu hayo na mimi ninaomba mnichambue.

Shukran!


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On 01 Aug 2012, at 13:39, Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com> wrote:

Judy,

You live in an English-speaking country and you have for a long time. I think you should go take some English lessons. What you write here is even below the level of a Form 4 in Kenya. Your English simply stinks.

I'm sorry to point that out.

Courage



On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Judy Miriga <jbatec@yahoo.com> wrote:
 
 
Emmanuel,
 
 
It matters because here is where, in such like sheng and rap, we are able
to break the order to engage Linguistic diversity from official grammar and
create some new jargon language format to evoke interest for networking. 
Hard fast grammar gets stale in such stiff and muddy atsmosphere.
 
 
Remember, we are a mixture of non-educated and the educated; professionals
and intellectuals........we must strike a balance to accommodate and engage all.
Social Network Forum is not a place to show off........or better still, let those
braggers put their experties, their skills and talents on "THE REFORM AGENDA
FIXTURE"........this is where the business is.......the reason for our interraction. 
 
 
Grammar correction will not fight the war on corruption, graft and impunity...but,
Warsama's contribution is fighting and challenging the corrupt politicians.  This is
where Maurice should engage.


Judy Miriga
Diaspora Spokesperson
Executive Director
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
USA
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com
 

--- On Wed, 8/1/12, okello emmanuel <oldiya@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
 
 
Why does it hurt when one's grammar is corrected?


Make Hay While The Sun Shines.

From: Judy Miriga <jbatec@yahoo.com>;
To: Progressive Kenyans <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>; <kibisu.kabatesi@gmail.com>; Uchunguzionline <uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; Change Mombasa <changemombasa2012@yahoogroups.com>; Bunge la Mwananchi <bungelamwananchi2011@gmail.com>; <jaluo@jaluo.com>;
Cc: <wanakenya@googlegroups.com>; young proffessionals <youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com>; wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>;
Subject: [uchunguzionline] Warsama is a Form 2 Dropout
Sent: Wed, Aug 1, 2012 5:03:19 AM

Folks,
People get an education as a basic means to gain knowledge so they are able to get through ways and means to have things done and reach goals in life. Education does not end in class; it is a daily process of learning and there is no end to learning.
Every day new ideas and technology emerges and people continue learning from those new inventions. English language grammar was also invented by someone, and new ones are also in daily use; like sheng and rap which have no grammatical connotations, sentimental lyrics or theories to back their existence in their emergence but as can be seen are taking youth generation by storm because it has become their acceptance way of communication and in music. Every tradition and culture have their owns ways etc.,
People who cannot debate logically and effectively to deliberate issues with ease, in many cases lacks substance and have loose brain. To impress other fools, they behave like they have the mastery of English grammar and that they are Engineers of some sort....In social networking, who cares who they are.......who care which school they went........who cares what level they achieved......????......They need to know that what matters is, how they associate, motivate and interact with the rest in social networking.......Oduors' constant pegging and put down is completely irrelevant, inconceivable and is insignificant in Social gathering since many forum networking people belong to different school of thoughts and are diverse with varied categories of understanding..........and not all have degrees, masters or PHDs....
In social gathering or association, really, no one is interested or wants to know what scholarly prowess one has, it is mchanganyiko maalum......open and free for all to share…...I don't care which format grammar or otherwise one wants to express themselves.........So, what does it matter if Warsama is a Form 2 Dropout or he completed form 4 or went through the University.......?..........Is he not communicating and we understand what he is putting across????
Therefore, if someone wants to bang people about their education, you need to look and observe that person critically and you will notice that the person is not complete in the head. You will find that the person has critical mental disorders and that, such people could be missing crucial screws and have some loose nuts in his head. In many cases; in Luo we say........"Somo obwoge" because he is coming from a poor and primitive backward background, or in a family that people never went to school and he is the only one who chanced the opportunity to go to school.......so he pictures people in the same lens with those primitive around him……and that is why you will find that people like Maurice Oduor keeps bragging about correcting people's English Grammar, being in Canada and is a Water Engineer etc.,. He thinks Canada is some strange country like having a ticket to heaven.
Sad to say, Maurice Oduor must be suffering from inferiority complex and would probably need some class for reality check. Education is information and information is power. It is a tool people use to share, motivate or empower others in order that, together we are able to unite and engage in activities that are for progressive development which will improve our destiny; and not about put down of some English grammar by some poor primitive trifling of inconsequential.
Real people who have schooled and gained the education are well informed and polished. Such people hardly talk about their education, they don't show off who they are, or brag around; why? Because they understand and know what education is all about and will have no problem understanding those they engage with without any difficulties.


Judy Miriga
Diaspora Spokesperson
Executive Director
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
USA
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com


--- On Tue, 7/31/12, Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: (VVM Forum) Warsama is a Form 2 Dropout
To: "Progressive Kenyans" <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>, kibisu.kabatesi@gmail.com
Cc: wanakenya@googlegroups.com, "KOL" <kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>, "Africa-Oped" <africa-oped@yahoogroups.com>, "Kiswahili" <Kiswahili@yahoogroups.com>, "VVM Vuguvugu Mashinani" <VuguVuguMashinani@yahoogroups.com>, "young proffessionals" <youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com>, "wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 1:28 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen,

I'm running an Opinion Poll here. How many people here believe that according to Warsama's behaviour here, he's actually a Form 2 dropout who bribed his way into a job at Daily Nation? The guy has never shown us one simple attribute that he's a college or university graduate. He belongs in the old tradition of who-you-know or how-much-money-you-can-pay to get the job.

Let him show us his academic credentials.

Courage,
Oduor Maurice
 
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