[wanabidii] Re: [PK] Re: [uchunguzionline] Nyanza leaders meet Raila over Kidero’s big-money harambees

KM,
What did you expect???!!! These are the Raila "ghasia" genuinely
worried about themselves and their "ghasia leader"! Kidero is a real
threat to them, and their "leader" because he is trying to wake the
Luo up to the reality that there is more to leadership than just stone
throwing!!!
Nyamodi Ochieng-Nyamogo.

On 12/28/13, okello emmanuel <oldiya@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> I do not think it possible to stifle the growth of any leader, no matter how
> much effort is expended in the process.
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Jerry Edwards <jmcgwena@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: "uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com" <uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>;
> progressive-kenyans <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
> Cc: Africa-Oped <africa-oped@yahoogroups.com>; Kiswahili
> <Kiswahili@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, 28 December 2013, 13:12
> Subject: Re: [PK] Re: [uchunguzionline] Nyanza leaders meet Raila over
> Kidero's big-money harambees
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> Poverty is a complex phenomenon that is caused by a range of factors which
> work together and result in inadequate resources. If the labour market does
> not provide enough jobs that match the skills and qualifications of the
> unemployed people, coming out of poverty would be difficult indeed. I am
> not against Harambee per se, but raising funds aimed at projects not
> befitting devepment of job creation initiatives should be a thing of the
> past. Leaders need to think differently.
>
> On Luo leaders, this is yet again another issue of paranoia. The proclaimed
> power house in Luo Nyanza must give room for others to grow. Stifling
> propgress of would be leaders is retrogessive. It is because of such
> paranoia that brains like Ochuocho's is building other Nations rather than
> his own.
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> On Saturday, 28 December 2013, 8:06, okello emmanuel <oldiya@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
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>
> I would certainly think money is welcome, whatever the source if it is used
> properly, but I would be quick to disabuse Kidero of the notion that money
> ends poverty, poverty is in most instances a mental condition which can only
> be treated by education and exposure.
>
> Bring it on, Mr. President.
>
>
>
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> From: Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
> To: progressive-kenyans <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
> Cc: uchunguzi online <uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; Africa-Oped
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> Sent: Saturday, 28 December 2013, 7:03
> Subject: Re: [PK] Re: [uchunguzionline] Nyanza leaders meet Raila over
> Kidero's big-money harambees
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> Retrogressive minds! You are even worse because you would not do the same
> for Tiriki!
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>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:01 PM, khaguli maurice <mkhaguli@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> KM,
>>Kalaha(pole, pole) brother, but ni ngooooo!
>>We stand to emphasize the truth, truth is one!
>>
>>
>>
>>On Friday, December 27, 2013 10:54 PM, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>With supporters such Khaguli, Rao does not need enemies!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 8:56 PM, khaguli maurice <mkhaguli@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>There's nothing like "pain" in cord/Odm. the truth is Uhuru is destroying
>>> the country. He managed to destroy Ruto's chances and he believes if he
>>> focus on Kidero, RAO will be done. Good luck guys!!
>>>>We stand to emphasize the truth, truth is one!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Friday, December 27, 2013 7:07 PM, margaret gichuki
>>>> <wams2006@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Kidero is becoming such a pain in ''CORD/ODM.'' and needs to be displined
>>>> ASAP!
>>>>>Dalmas went to Juba this week with kina Amina M.
>>>>>Last week Dalmas made some uncalled for remarks about Ruto/UK and the
>>>>> Hague nini.
>>>>>Ruto was the chief guest at the migori function.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Get it!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Habari ndio hiyo.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 6:41 PM, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Jameni what is wrong with these leaders or rather what wrong has Kidero
>>>>>> and dalmas done? So if you contribute more than Raila then you become
>>>>>> an enemy? I thought they would be happy with the money flowing in
>>>>>> Nyanza but may be the anger is because Ruto and Uhuru are sending
>>>>>> donations and so overshadowing Raila. I call the talk from akina
>>>>>> Kajuang ujinga.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They remind me of those Kikuyus who hated JM Kariuki because he was
>>>>>> becoming very popular for giving large donations and was accused og
>>>>>> undermining Kenyatta. Kenyatta gave Ksh 10K and everyone had to give
>>>>>> less than that. Now Kidero is being asked to give peanuts if he wants
>>>>>> to be in good books. Ghasia!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nyanza leaders meet Raila over Kidero's big-money harambees
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-- By ISAAC ONGIRI
>>>>>>More by this Author
>>>>>>A storm is brewing in the Nyanza region over big money fund-raising
>>>>>> events presided over by Nairobi governor Evans Kidero and Rongo MP
>>>>>> Dalmas Otieno.
>>>>>>A meeting at former Prime Minister Raila Odinga's Bondo home on Monday
>>>>>> discussed the impact of the fund-raisings after Homa Bay Senator
>>>>>> Otieno Kajwang complained that the events were aimed at dividing the
>>>>>> Luo community.
>>>>>>The Bondo meeting attended by more than 35 MPs, including local
>>>>>> senators, was called by Mr Odinga to brainstorm on regional
>>>>>> leadership.
>>>>>>Mr Kidero, whose activities in Nyanza have intensified over the past
>>>>>> few months, has been a major concern to local leaders allied to the
>>>>>> former PM over suspicions he is attempting to take over the territory
>>>>>> dominated by the Odingas since independence.
>>>>>>Last month, the Nairobi governor presided over a fund-raising in aid of
>>>>>> Tom Mboya Secondary School in Awendo, which raised Sh15 million,
>>>>>> including Sh2 million from President Uhuru Kenyatta and Sh500,000 from
>>>>>> Deputy President William Ruto.
>>>>>>This month, Dr Kidero presided over yet another event at Asumbi
>>>>>> Catholic Church, which collected Sh11 million.
>>>>>>And last weekend, Rongo MP Dalmas Otieno hosted another fund-raising in
>>>>>> aid of Kamagambo Adventist Church, Ranen, which mobilised Sh6.4
>>>>>> million including Sh1 million each from the President and his deputy.
>>>>>>Mr Ruto was present at the event, which has seen Mr Otieno castigated
>>>>>> by his colleagues for saying Mr Ruto is being sacrificed at the
>>>>>> International Criminal Court because of his strong struggle to bring
>>>>>> power to the people of the region in the 2007 elections.
>>>>>>Mr Kidero on Friday told the Saturday Nation that his activities in
>>>>>> Nyanza have no political ends, but are driven desire to end the
>>>>>> widespread poverty while at the same time resu citing the once
>>>>>> academic giant.
>>>>>>"I want our people to understand that I am not doing this to compete
>>>>>> with Mr Odinga. He is the leader of the Luo, something I have accepted
>>>>>> while I am the governor of Nairobi – somewhere below his rank. We must
>>>>>> raise funds to build schools and take our children to school," he told
>>>>>> the Saturday Nation.
>>>>>>Dr Kidero's monthly Nyanza tours are expected to continue in the new
>>>>>> year with a major fund-raising for youth groups in Kisumu expected
>>>>>> next month, another fund-raising in March in Muhoroni to support women
>>>>>> groups and one in Suba in aid of St Gabriel's Gwassi Girls Secondary
>>>>>> School is scheduled for May.
>>>>>>"I am not just doing this in Nyanza. The other day I was in Tetu
>>>>>> raising funds for a local school. This is because government funds can
>>>>>> never be enough for everything," he stated.
>>>>>>Suba MP Mr John Mbadi, who attended the meeting at Mr Odinga's home,
>>>>>> said that though concerns were raised about the massive donations, no
>>>>>> particular individual was discussed.
>>>>>>"Yes it is true the issue about harambees was raised but it was not in
>>>>>> the agenda. There are concerns that some individuals want to use these
>>>>>> fundraisings to gain political support in the region," Mr Mbadi said.
>>>>>>He explained: "There was a feeling that these harambees were used by
>>>>>> President Daniel Moi to hoodwink Kenyans that development could be
>>>>>> achieved through them while public money was looted and diverted to
>>>>>> private activities," the Suba MP said.
>>>>>>Mbita MP Millie Odhiambo, who was also in Bondo, said the leaders were
>>>>>> only worried about the source of money being donated in harambees.
>>>>>>"There was concern about where this people are getting their money from
>>>>>> because we know their salaries cannot fund such multi-million
>>>>>> projects," she said.
>>>>>>Mr Otieno criticised Nyanza leaders for their stand on Harambees,
>>>>>> arguing that the region's skyrocketing poverty could escalate to
>>>>>> unimaginable level if a caveat on such events was imposed as suggested
>>>>>> by some local leaders.
>>>>>>"The truth is that Nyanza is poor. We must be able to raise funds for
>>>>>> churches to be built and our children to go to school. It will be
>>>>>> unfair to deny our people an opportunity to raise funds to supplement
>>>>>> on government funds like CDF," he argued.
>>>>>>The Rongo MP wondered why the Bondo meeting castigated him and the
>>>>>> Nairobi governor, adding that Mr Odinga himself sent Sh100,000 in
>>>>>> support of the Ranen fundraising.
>>>>>>The MP also maintained his comments on Mr Ruto's situation: "It is true
>>>>>> that if the youths from the Rift Valley did not block the highways the
>>>>>> Grand Coalition government under which Mr Odinga became PM could not
>>>>>> have happened."
>>>>>>He added that Mr Ruto deserved support from the people of Nyanza just
>>>>>> as the region also deserves compensation from the State for losses
>>>>>> incurred by individuals from the area who were affected by the 2008
>>>>>> post-election violence.
>>>>>>On his part, Dr Kidero insists that the biggest thing in his mind is
>>>>>> how to change and transform lives and not rhetoric.
>>>>>>Kisumu Senator Anyang Nyong'o recently attempted to introduce a Motion
>>>>>> in the Senate to tax funds obtained from Harambees.
>>>>>>\
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>>>>>>The truth Shall set you freehttp://www.kuria-mwangi.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>http://www.facebook.com/kjmwangi
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