Re: [wanabidii] Re: Mke mmoja au wake wengi,je ni ipi amri ya Mungu?

Wanaharakati wa ndoa za jinsi moja walianza hivi hivi wakijiita ni wakristo lakini mashoga(christian homosexuals). Gia yao ni kama hii, je, ni amri ya Mungu? Lakini ukishakuwa shoga, je,  wewe kweli ni Mkristo? Ona walivyoweza kujenga hoja kama hii, na hata kupata msaada wa kisheria katika baadhi ya nchi. Kwa sasa wameenea dunia nzima. Wanaharakati wa Kikristo wa kutetea haki za ndoa za wake wengi, hutumia janja hiyo hiyo. Hawa jamaa, huanza kisirisiri na nyumba ndogo, na kisha kutafuta jinsi ya kuhalalisha. Watu hawa huyatukana mambo wasiyoyajua, na sooner or later Mungu atawafunua jinsi walivyo ma mbwa mwitu. Frank

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From: 'weston mbuba' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Re: Mke mmoja au wake wengi,je ni ipi amri ya Mungu?

Una lako jambo Ngupula

On Thursday, December 11, 2014 7:43 PM, 'ngupula' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Baada ya Adamu na Hawa kumtenda dhambi Mungu na kujijua kuwa wa uchi..Bwana Mungu akamfanyizia Adam na Hawa vazi la ngozi na kuwavika...nakuomba ndugu Charles uniambie hiyo suti ndio Mungu alikupatia?ulitumia akili yako ukajiongeza...hivi ninyi mnadhani ni watakatifu kuliko yakobo,daudi....tatizo la wanadamu wa leo mnatumia akili.kidogo katika mambo yenu lakini mambo ya ajabu mnayajua vizuri sana Sitashangaa watu wakijua ingredient zote za bia lkn hawajui igredients za hata panadol...jibu halis la mke mmoja au wake wengi ni ustaarabu tu wa mwanadamu..Mungu hajawahi mpangia mtu...hebu tujiulize....zipo siku 5 za mwanamke kupata mtoto wa kike....lkn ipo siku moja tu za mwanamke kupata mtoto wa kiume...hivyo ni ukweli usiopingika kuwa wanawake ni wengi zaidi ya wanaume...Nini nini logic behind?halafu mnasema Mungu alisema mke mmoja na mume mmoja ..halafu hao wanawake wengine waende wapi?Mungu sio mdhalimu kiasi hicho.....juzijuzi tu hapa tulikuwa tunaoa mpk mimba leo dada zetu wanazagaa tu mitaani kisa....eti mzungu katuaminisha mke mmoja na mke mmoja...mh?

'Charles Misango' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Ngulupa acha kupotosha njiambie wapi na katika kitabu gani ambapo inaelezwa kuwa Mungu alimuumbia Adamnu wake wengi. Tunaambiwa alimuua adamu, mtu mmoja tu na akamletea Hawa (Eva) mmoja tu!

On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:43 PM, 'ngupula' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Frank...mwalimu ukiingia darasani anauliza swali...1000/0 sawasawa na ngapi?na kisha....ina maana mwalimu hajui jibu la swali la swali au kuna kitu anataka kujua? Halafu,sijauliza mapenzi ya Mungu bali nimeuliza amri ya Mungu..au kwako mapenzi na amri ni sawa? Bwana Frank...nafikir learn kuwa na diplomasia..na uelewe ufalme wa Mungu kwa mapana yake...la sivyo unaweza ukajikuta unamuudhi Mungu badala ya kumpendeza. Mi najua....aggresive christians they have their prophets they trust...so hawaamini Mungu anaweza akaongea na yeyote anayempenda,so I dont bother about people like those.....Mungu ni mpana sana ndugu Frank....acha tu hiyo tabia ya kuattack watu in the name of perfectionist....utajikuta unakera tu watu zaid ya kusaidia...Ngupula..

'frank patrick materu' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Ngupula, hii mada ilishajadiliwa sana hapa jamvini na sio mada mpya na sio mara ya kwanza. Na ilihitimishwa vizuri tu. Ukiwa Mkristo unayedai umeokoka, hutakiwi kuwapotosha watu. Wewe si uliwahi kumwomba Mungu? mpaka akakuambia ni nani raisi ajaye baada ya JK? Je, kuokoka kwako kote huko huwezi kujua ni nini hasa  mapenzi ya Mungu katika suala dogo kama hili la ndoa kwa Wakristo?. Najua huwezi kuzizungumzia imani nyingine kwa sababu huzifahamu, lakini kwa Kikristo katika Agano Jipya, hapa umetia aibu. Najua kuna watu wengi wanaodai kuokoka kama wewe, na hata wachungaji lakini wana michepuko. Ni comedians wazuri tu na wanajenga hoja za kisanii kama hizi ili kuhalalisha, au/na kujiridhisha katika dhamiri zao. Lakini ukweli utabakia pale pale, na utasimama na utashinda. Frank 

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From: 'weston mbuba' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Re: Mke mmoja au wake wengi,je ni ipi amri ya Mungu?

Ngupula unatupotosha. Mke ni mmoja. Haya mengine ni ubinafsi, tamaa, ufahari wa kijinga, uamuzi potofu na hulka ya uhayawani.

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