Jovias,
Biblia katika Warumi 3:23 inasema "Kwa maana wote wamefanya dhambi na kupungukiwa na utukufu wa Mungu" . Ni wapi panaposema eti bikira Maria alikingiwa dhambi ya asili?
Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556), another famous teacher in the Roman Church and founder of Jesuit order which today so largely controls Roman Catholic policy, wrote some rules for his order which he as a "help in attaining the right attitude toward the Church" One of them reads;
Laying aside all private judgment the spirit must be always ready to obey the true doctrine and therefore, if anything shall appear white to our eyes which the Church has defined as black, we likewise must declare it to be black….If you receive from your superior a command which appears to go against your own judgment, your own conviction, or your own well-being, then you must fall on your knees, putting off all human principles and considerations, and renew, when you are alone, your own obedience."
Under such a standard, obedience to the church becomes the supreme virtue and takes precedence even over conscience. But, for the Protestant, such action does not make sense. The Protestant can not force his will to believe that which he knows to be irrational, nor his conscience to approve that which he knows to be wrong. Frank
From: Jovias Mwesiga <ngonzy@gmail.com>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] 'Pope' Claims Mary Was Conceived 'Without Original Sin' During Feast of Immaculate Conception
Mvivu wa kushibisha bongo yake
On Dec 13, 2014 11:19 AM, "Joseph Ludovick" <josephludovick@gmail.com> wrote:
-- Materu
Its not the popes claim. It is the dogma of the church. How can you say the pope claims as if he is teaching his mind or some new teaching?On Dec 13, 2014 7:41 PM, "'frank patrick materu' via Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:----ROME – In one of the feasts and celebrations marked on the Roman Catholic liturgical calendar leading up to Christmas, Catholics around the world observed the Feast of Immaculate Conception on Monday, a day in which those who follow the religion commemorate their belief that Mary was born without sin.The pontiff known as Pope Francis led Catholics in the annual observance of the holiday, delivering an Angelus address in St. Peter's Square."Oh Mary, our mother, today the people of God in celebration venerates you, the immaculate, preserved from the contagion of sin from the beginning," he prayed. "Accept the gift I offer on behalf of the church in Rome and throughout the whole world.""In this time that leads us to the feast of the birth of Jesus, teach us to go against the tide," Francis continued. "The power of God's love, which has preserved you from original sin, freed all of humanity through your intercession from every spiritual and material slavery and made the designs of God's salvation victorious within hearts and events."According to the National Catholic Register, he also declared to the crowds gathered that in Mary "there was no room for sin," because "God had chosen her to be the mother of Jesus," which resulted in her being preserved from "original sin."The pontiff later venerated the Statue of the Immaculate Conception in Rome's Piazza di Spagna and invited others to join him. The statue was created in 1857 as a mark of the Roman Catholic belief that Mary was conceived without sin."I ask you to spiritually unite yourselves to me in this pilgrimage, which expresses filial devotion to our heavenly mother," he said.
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