Elisa,
Bado nayaita mawazo mgando! Unajua kabisa Baba wa Taifa hakuwa hivyo!! Mimi ni mkubwa kidogo tu kwako; hivyo unayodai uliyaona, nami niliyaona kabla yako! Acheni kumsumbua Baba yetu; mwache alale kwa amani! Na kama ulizaliwa miaka hiyo, unajua kabisa kuwa kama si yeye, si ajabu usingekuwa humu unatamba! Give credit where it deserves!
LKK
On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:49 PM, 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Karibu. Lakini Nyerere hakufanya hqki. nitatafuta makaqla ya maelezo kamili ya alichokifanya Nyerere utaona kuwa katika hilo alikosa uzalendo.
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 5/24/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2016, 10:12 PM
Elisa,
Kama unachosema ni kweli basi Nyerere alikuwa mzalendo hasa
hasa. Hapa Marekani wanasayansi wote waliobuni bomu la
atomic nao walifungiwa mahali ili kuiwezesha nchi kuwa na
silaha hiyo. Ukisoma Azimio la Arusha ambalo Mwinyi na
wenzake walilishit utakubali kuwa Nyerere alikuwa mzalendo
kutumia akili za mmoja wetu kutupa ubunifu original.
Matumaini yangu ni kwamba hiyo jamaa alikuwa compensated na
state kwa mchango wake. Nitakuwa huko July. Tuanze na
Kigoma.
em
Sent from my iPad
> On May 24, 2016, at 2:41 PM, 'ELISA MUHINGO' via
Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
>
> Emmnuel.
> Nakumbuka kukuahidi kukupeleka Ujiji utembelee eneo la
Livingstone.
> Sasa nakuahidi kingine: Ukija Tz fika Bukoba
nitakupeleka kwa mtu aliyebuni Azimio la Arusha. Nyerere
alichofanya alimficha Ikulu hadi alipostaafu na ofisi yake
ikafungwa. Anaitwa Leonard Rwizandekwe. Baada ya nyerere
kumgundua kuwa ana mawazo ya kushangaza wakati huo akisoma
sheria Uingereza Nyerere alimshauri aachane na sheria ya
kawaida asomee African Customary law. Ukikiangalia kitendo
hicho unaweza kumtafsiri Nyerere kuwa hakupenda kuwa na mtu
aliye na mawazo mapana kumzidi. kama ukweli ukiwa hivyo basi
alianza kumtafuta mrithi wake alipokaribia kustaafu.
Magufuli ameanza anapoanza urais. katika hilo Magufuli
amemzidi Nyerere uzalendo.
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 5/24/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza
Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
> To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2016, 6:11 PM
>
> Elisa,Hatujawahi kuwa na rais mzuri, makini,
> mzalendo kama Julius Nyerere. Lakini hata kabla
hajaodoka
> wenzake, kuanzia Mwinyi walihakikisha Unyerere
unafutwa
> nakushindwa. Ndivyo hivyo itakavyokuwa na
> Magufuli. Sidhani kila mtu ndani ya CCM anashabikia
> anachofanya mheshimiwa. Hence my conclusion kwamba
> utashindwa.Nyerere alituwekea misingi kwa miaka
> 23 lakini katika kipindi cha miaka miwili tu Mwinyi
alianza
> kuifuta akaja kumalizia Mkapa. Tuombe Mungu tuwepo
halafu
> tuje tupimemaneno yako na ya
> kwangu.em
> 2016-05-24 7:10 GMT-04:00
> 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
> Afadhali
> ungesema Umagufuli ''unaweza kushindwa''
> kuliko kusema ''utashindwa'. Ninatamani tuwepo
> wote wakati huo tukumbushane. Umagufuli unaweza
kuendelea
> mpaka rais wa tatu kutoka kwake. Kuna sababu nyingi:
Watu
> walichoka na kuonewa na watu waliokuwa ndani ya CCM.
> Wakafikia kuichukua CCM. CCM imenusulika kwa sababu ya
> kusambaratika upinzani. Baada ya hapo CCM kumpata
Magufuli
> akainusulu. Asipopepesuka ataendelea kuishi baada
yake.
> Kingine ni hiki cha kutafuta watu na kuanza kuwalea.
> Sikumuongeza Makonda kwenye orodha ya wanaolelewa
makusudi.
> Magufuli akilenga kumuweka mrithi na akatumia njia
> zinazotajwa humu, basi umagufuli utaishi baada yake.
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> On Tue, 5/24/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa
kwanza
> Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
>
> To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
> <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>
> Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2016, 1:20 AM
>
>
>
> Ndani ya
>
> CCM hakuna linaloweza kutabirika. Unyerere
ulishindwa
>
> kuendelea, Umwinyi ulishindwa na vile vile Umkapa
na
>
> Ukikwete.Hata Umagufuli utashindwa
>
> tu.em
>
> 2016-05-23 16:30 GMT-04:00
>
> 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
>
> Kumbukumbu zizizo rasmi na zilizo
>
> rasmi Tanzania zinaonyesha marais wote
waliotangulia
>
> walishindwa kuwaweka watu watakaorithi nafasi zao
mara
> baada
>
> yao kumaliza vipindi vyao.
>
>
>
> Mwalimu Nyerere inasemekana alishindwa
kuhakikisha
> chaguo
>
> lake linapita na badala yake Ndugu Ali Hasan
Mwinyi
>
> akaichukua nafasi hiyo. Inasemekana chaguo la
Mwalimu
>
> alikuwa Ndugu Salim Ahmed Salim.
>
>
>
> Ndugu Ali Hasan Mwinyi angalau huyo tunafahamu
hakuwa
> na
>
> chaguo. Ushawishi wake uliporomoka sana na
karibu
> Mwalimu
>
> Nyerere alikuwa strongman. Hotuba zake zinazotoka
kila
> mara
>
> kwenye luninga zinajieleza. Mwalimu Nyerere
alifanikiwa
>
> kumpigia chepuo Ndugu Mkapa kwa hiyo Mwinyi
> hakufanikiwa
>
> kumpachika chaguo lake.
>
>
>
> Wakati wa Benjamin Mkapa kung'atuka ilionekana
alikuwa
> na
>
> chaguo lake japo kwa umahili wake haikuwa rais
kumjua.
>
> Lakini kuna dalili kuwa Jakaya Kikwete hakuwa
chaguo
> lake.
>
> Wakati wa mkutano mkuu wa CCM kuteua mgombea
Mkapa
> alitoa
>
> hotuba iliyoashilia anammaanisha JK, lakini bado
hakuwa
>
> chaguo lake.
>
>
>
> Ndugu JK ameng'atuka. Alijitahidi kwa uwazi
tena bila
>
> kificho kutaka kurithiwa na chaguo lake.
Sitakuwa
> nimekosea
>
> nikiongeza kuwa kwa matamshi ya wanafamilia
chaguo hilo
>
> halikuwa la JK peke yake bali lilikuwa la familia
yake.
>
> Pamoja na makeke yote hayo mwisho wake JK
hakurithiwa
> na
>
> chaguo lake. Kuna hisia kuwa ni Mkapa
aliyefanikiwa
>
> kushawishi chaguo. Kama kuna ukweli ndani yake
basi
> Magufuli
>
> alipita kwa uwezo wake na ushawishi wa Mkapa.
>
>
>
> Dr. Magufuli ndiyo anaaza. Ana myaka minne
iliyosalia
> lakini
>
> aweza kuendelea mpaka myaka kumi.
>
>
>
> Dr Magufuli anaonyesha anaweza kurithiwa na
chaguo lako
> kwa
>
> sababu kadhaa, zikiwamo zifuatazo:
>
>
>
> 1) Mtangulizi wake (JK) kama
ilivyokuwa kwa
> Mwinyi
>
> haonekani kuwa anaweza kuwa na ushawishi mkubwa
kuliko
>
> Magufuli wakati ukifika. Badala yake Magufuli
anaweza
> kuwa
>
> na ushawishi mkubwa kiasi cha watu hata kutamani
> kubadili
>
> katiba ili aendelee japo hawezi kukubali. Hii
inampa
> nafasi
>
> ya kuwapendekezea watanzania nani awe mrithi
wake.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2) Mwendo wa Dr. Magufuli ana
uwezekano wa kuwa
> na
>
> idadi ya watu ambao yeyote kati yao akichaguliwa
> atakuwa
>
> mteule wake. Mfano: (1) Jinsi ambavyo Naibu
Speaker
>
> alivyoingizwa, sitashangaa kama 2025 atajitokeza
> kugombea.
>
> Akigombea baada ya kulelewa enzi hizi ngumu
kutokuwa
> chaguo
>
> lake. (2) Tunamuona Naibu Waziri wa Tamisemi
Suleiman
> Daffo.
>
> Ukimuangalia sana, hatofautiani na Magufuli
katika
> mambo
>
> Fulani. Matamshi yake hayaonyeshi ubandia au
uigizaji
>
> wowote. Huyu namtilia shaka kuwa yuko analelewa.
(3)
> Wakati
>
> watu waliposema Humphrey Polepole anapigania ukuu
wa
> Wilaya
>
> niliwashangaa. Na naamini Polepole hakuwa na
haraka ya
>
> kuupata Ukuu wa Wilaya. Kama angependa kupigania
> angeutafuta
>
> uwaziri. Kitendo cha kumteua kwa nafasi ambayo
> kimuonekano
>
> ni ya chini kwake sitafanya kosa nikisema
amepelekwa
> kwenye
>
> nafasi hiyo ya chini ili apande polepole na
kufikia
> 2025
>
> atakuwa ameupata uzoefu ambao kwa sasa unaonekana
hana
> na
>
> labda watanzania watakuwa wamemjua zaidi. (4) Kwa
mwendo
> huu
>
> Magufuli anaweza kuweka chaguo lake hata chama
cha
> upinzani
>
> ili mradi kufika siku zile atakayepita awe mmoja
kati
> ya
>
> walengwa wake.
>
>
>
> Kama huu nio mkakati wake basi Baada ya Magufuli
> umagufuli
>
> utaendelea. Kama hakuwa amekusudia hivyo
nitashangaa
> sana
>
> kama hataanza.
>
>
>
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On Tue, 5/24/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2016, 10:12 PM
Elisa,
Kama unachosema ni kweli basi Nyerere alikuwa mzalendo hasa
hasa. Hapa Marekani wanasayansi wote waliobuni bomu la
atomic nao walifungiwa mahali ili kuiwezesha nchi kuwa na
silaha hiyo. Ukisoma Azimio la Arusha ambalo Mwinyi na
wenzake walilishit utakubali kuwa Nyerere alikuwa mzalendo
kutumia akili za mmoja wetu kutupa ubunifu original.
Matumaini yangu ni kwamba hiyo jamaa alikuwa compensated na
state kwa mchango wake. Nitakuwa huko July. Tuanze na
Kigoma.
em
Sent from my iPad
> On May 24, 2016, at 2:41 PM, 'ELISA MUHINGO' via
Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
>
> Emmnuel.
> Nakumbuka kukuahidi kukupeleka Ujiji utembelee eneo la
Livingstone.
> Sasa nakuahidi kingine: Ukija Tz fika Bukoba
nitakupeleka kwa mtu aliyebuni Azimio la Arusha. Nyerere
alichofanya alimficha Ikulu hadi alipostaafu na ofisi yake
ikafungwa. Anaitwa Leonard Rwizandekwe. Baada ya nyerere
kumgundua kuwa ana mawazo ya kushangaza wakati huo akisoma
sheria Uingereza Nyerere alimshauri aachane na sheria ya
kawaida asomee African Customary law. Ukikiangalia kitendo
hicho unaweza kumtafsiri Nyerere kuwa hakupenda kuwa na mtu
aliye na mawazo mapana kumzidi. kama ukweli ukiwa hivyo basi
alianza kumtafuta mrithi wake alipokaribia kustaafu.
Magufuli ameanza anapoanza urais. katika hilo Magufuli
amemzidi Nyerere uzalendo.
> --------------------------------------------
> On Tue, 5/24/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza
Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
> To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2016, 6:11 PM
>
> Elisa,Hatujawahi kuwa na rais mzuri, makini,
> mzalendo kama Julius Nyerere. Lakini hata kabla
hajaodoka
> wenzake, kuanzia Mwinyi walihakikisha Unyerere
unafutwa
> nakushindwa. Ndivyo hivyo itakavyokuwa na
> Magufuli. Sidhani kila mtu ndani ya CCM anashabikia
> anachofanya mheshimiwa. Hence my conclusion kwamba
> utashindwa.Nyerere alituwekea misingi kwa miaka
> 23 lakini katika kipindi cha miaka miwili tu Mwinyi
alianza
> kuifuta akaja kumalizia Mkapa. Tuombe Mungu tuwepo
halafu
> tuje tupimemaneno yako na ya
> kwangu.em
> 2016-05-24 7:10 GMT-04:00
> 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
> Afadhali
> ungesema Umagufuli ''unaweza kushindwa''
> kuliko kusema ''utashindwa'. Ninatamani tuwepo
> wote wakati huo tukumbushane. Umagufuli unaweza
kuendelea
> mpaka rais wa tatu kutoka kwake. Kuna sababu nyingi:
Watu
> walichoka na kuonewa na watu waliokuwa ndani ya CCM.
> Wakafikia kuichukua CCM. CCM imenusulika kwa sababu ya
> kusambaratika upinzani. Baada ya hapo CCM kumpata
Magufuli
> akainusulu. Asipopepesuka ataendelea kuishi baada
yake.
> Kingine ni hiki cha kutafuta watu na kuanza kuwalea.
> Sikumuongeza Makonda kwenye orodha ya wanaolelewa
makusudi.
> Magufuli akilenga kumuweka mrithi na akatumia njia
> zinazotajwa humu, basi umagufuli utaishi baada yake.
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> On Tue, 5/24/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa
kwanza
> Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
>
> To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
> <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>
> Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2016, 1:20 AM
>
>
>
> Ndani ya
>
> CCM hakuna linaloweza kutabirika. Unyerere
ulishindwa
>
> kuendelea, Umwinyi ulishindwa na vile vile Umkapa
na
>
> Ukikwete.Hata Umagufuli utashindwa
>
> tu.em
>
> 2016-05-23 16:30 GMT-04:00
>
> 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
>
> Kumbukumbu zizizo rasmi na zilizo
>
> rasmi Tanzania zinaonyesha marais wote
waliotangulia
>
> walishindwa kuwaweka watu watakaorithi nafasi zao
mara
> baada
>
> yao kumaliza vipindi vyao.
>
>
>
> Mwalimu Nyerere inasemekana alishindwa
kuhakikisha
> chaguo
>
> lake linapita na badala yake Ndugu Ali Hasan
Mwinyi
>
> akaichukua nafasi hiyo. Inasemekana chaguo la
Mwalimu
>
> alikuwa Ndugu Salim Ahmed Salim.
>
>
>
> Ndugu Ali Hasan Mwinyi angalau huyo tunafahamu
hakuwa
> na
>
> chaguo. Ushawishi wake uliporomoka sana na
karibu
> Mwalimu
>
> Nyerere alikuwa strongman. Hotuba zake zinazotoka
kila
> mara
>
> kwenye luninga zinajieleza. Mwalimu Nyerere
alifanikiwa
>
> kumpigia chepuo Ndugu Mkapa kwa hiyo Mwinyi
> hakufanikiwa
>
> kumpachika chaguo lake.
>
>
>
> Wakati wa Benjamin Mkapa kung'atuka ilionekana
alikuwa
> na
>
> chaguo lake japo kwa umahili wake haikuwa rais
kumjua.
>
> Lakini kuna dalili kuwa Jakaya Kikwete hakuwa
chaguo
> lake.
>
> Wakati wa mkutano mkuu wa CCM kuteua mgombea
Mkapa
> alitoa
>
> hotuba iliyoashilia anammaanisha JK, lakini bado
hakuwa
>
> chaguo lake.
>
>
>
> Ndugu JK ameng'atuka. Alijitahidi kwa uwazi
tena bila
>
> kificho kutaka kurithiwa na chaguo lake.
Sitakuwa
> nimekosea
>
> nikiongeza kuwa kwa matamshi ya wanafamilia
chaguo hilo
>
> halikuwa la JK peke yake bali lilikuwa la familia
yake.
>
> Pamoja na makeke yote hayo mwisho wake JK
hakurithiwa
> na
>
> chaguo lake. Kuna hisia kuwa ni Mkapa
aliyefanikiwa
>
> kushawishi chaguo. Kama kuna ukweli ndani yake
basi
> Magufuli
>
> alipita kwa uwezo wake na ushawishi wa Mkapa.
>
>
>
> Dr. Magufuli ndiyo anaaza. Ana myaka minne
iliyosalia
> lakini
>
> aweza kuendelea mpaka myaka kumi.
>
>
>
> Dr Magufuli anaonyesha anaweza kurithiwa na
chaguo lako
> kwa
>
> sababu kadhaa, zikiwamo zifuatazo:
>
>
>
> 1) Mtangulizi wake (JK) kama
ilivyokuwa kwa
> Mwinyi
>
> haonekani kuwa anaweza kuwa na ushawishi mkubwa
kuliko
>
> Magufuli wakati ukifika. Badala yake Magufuli
anaweza
> kuwa
>
> na ushawishi mkubwa kiasi cha watu hata kutamani
> kubadili
>
> katiba ili aendelee japo hawezi kukubali. Hii
inampa
> nafasi
>
> ya kuwapendekezea watanzania nani awe mrithi
wake.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 2) Mwendo wa Dr. Magufuli ana
uwezekano wa kuwa
> na
>
> idadi ya watu ambao yeyote kati yao akichaguliwa
> atakuwa
>
> mteule wake. Mfano: (1) Jinsi ambavyo Naibu
Speaker
>
> alivyoingizwa, sitashangaa kama 2025 atajitokeza
> kugombea.
>
> Akigombea baada ya kulelewa enzi hizi ngumu
kutokuwa
> chaguo
>
> lake. (2) Tunamuona Naibu Waziri wa Tamisemi
Suleiman
> Daffo.
>
> Ukimuangalia sana, hatofautiani na Magufuli
katika
> mambo
>
> Fulani. Matamshi yake hayaonyeshi ubandia au
uigizaji
>
> wowote. Huyu namtilia shaka kuwa yuko analelewa.
(3)
> Wakati
>
> watu waliposema Humphrey Polepole anapigania ukuu
wa
> Wilaya
>
> niliwashangaa. Na naamini Polepole hakuwa na
haraka ya
>
> kuupata Ukuu wa Wilaya. Kama angependa kupigania
> angeutafuta
>
> uwaziri. Kitendo cha kumteua kwa nafasi ambayo
> kimuonekano
>
> ni ya chini kwake sitafanya kosa nikisema
amepelekwa
> kwenye
>
> nafasi hiyo ya chini ili apande polepole na
kufikia
> 2025
>
> atakuwa ameupata uzoefu ambao kwa sasa unaonekana
hana
> na
>
> labda watanzania watakuwa wamemjua zaidi. (4) Kwa
mwendo
> huu
>
> Magufuli anaweza kuweka chaguo lake hata chama
cha
> upinzani
>
> ili mradi kufika siku zile atakayepita awe mmoja
kati
> ya
>
> walengwa wake.
>
>
>
> Kama huu nio mkakati wake basi Baada ya Magufuli
> umagufuli
>
> utaendelea. Kama hakuwa amekusudia hivyo
nitashangaa
> sana
>
> kama hataanza.
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