Muganda.
Nilichokuhoji na ulichonijibu mbona n mjadala mzuri tu wenye kuelimisha sasa huyu mama anaita matusi. Mbona nimekuhoji na wewe ukanijibu vyema nikaelimika? Eti Muganda kwenye swali langu la wewe kuish marekan umeona tusi lolote mkuu? Is there any person who should decide for you kwamba umetukanwa?.
Kwenye mijadala naamini katk kuhoji bila kuangalia eti umri. Nimekulia kwenye jamii ambayo kumhoji mkubwa ni tusi linalostahiri adhabu mbaya sana. Kwa mfano niliwahi kuhoj mchungaji kwenda kutibiwa Hosp wakat anatuombea tusiugue/tupone nikatwisha viboko badala ya kujibiwa.
Kimsingi sijaporomosha tusi lolote kwako bwana Muganda na sjjafukuzwa jukwaa hili kwa kumtusi mtu. Naomba nieleweke hivyo usilishwe maneno mkuu
On May 26, 2016 3:01 AM, "'ananilea nkya' via Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
-- --Kaka Elisa Muhingo,Ni kweli mtu--yaani tabia ya mtu ni muhimu katika uongozi lakini muhimu zaidi sana katika zama hizi za uutandawazi wizi na siasa za vyama vingi, misingi iliyowekwa Kikatiba ni muhimu sana. Misingi hiyo inaepusha mtawala au kikundi ya watawala kuwa fisadi. Ufisadi wa EPA, Deep Green, Twin Towers, Richmond, Escow, Lugumi and many more ni ishara kwamba mkataba kati ya watawala na watawaliwa (Katiba ya Nchi) katika Jamhuri yetu ni dhaifu sana. Ni ishara mkataba una matobo makubwa sana yanayowezesha watawala kukwapua mali za wana wa nchi kilaini tena bila kuchukuliwa hatua zinazoweza kukomesha au kupunguza kwa kiasi kikubwa ufisadi nchini. Naye Rais wetu Magufuli --ni kweli anaonekana kuwa na dhamira ya kuirejesha nchi katika nidhamu ya uongozi, lakini asipolielewa hili tatizo la msingi na akalifanyia kazi--hata atende mema kiasi gani--tuendako giza litakuwa nene zaidi kuhusu ufisadi angamizi ndani ya Jamhuri yetu na mamilioni wataendelea kuumia kwa ufukara.Ananilea Nkya
E-mail:ananilea_nkya@yahoo.comOn Wednesday, May 25, 2016 8:29 PM, 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Tunajadili hatma ya taifa letu. Tunajadili upatikanaji wa viongozi wetu. Tunawajadili viongozi wetu kuwa na malengo, kuweka misingi lakini kwa kutokuwa na ushawishi wa nani afuate misingi ikabomoka. nyerere aliweka msingi Mwinyi akabom oa. mkapa alilipa madeni JK akaleta mengine kwa sababu mkapa hakuweza kumuweka atakayeyaendeleza. mada hii inalenga kumshawishi rais wetu kuliona hilo. Wametajwa watu ambao ameanza nao ambao akiwalea wanaweza kulinda mafanikio yao. Huo ni mstakabali wa taifa letu. naona kamala na Mganda mnaenda nje kidogo na kuna madhara makubwa kusema mambo ya mtu binafsi. Haikuwa maana yangu wakati naandika mada.
Elisa
--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 5/25/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2016, 6:49 PM
Kamala,Mimi si
mwanasiasa. Sikukimbia nchi. I would have loved to serve
Tanzania but fate had it that after I graduated my father
died and the onlyway I could help my 2 little
sisters continue their education is get a job in America and
bring them here. So you can call me what you
maybut I do not regret contributing to my
sister's education something I would not have been able
to do if I had returned to Tanzania and
startlooking for a job. Lakini wote
waliokimbia azimio la Arusha walitaka Tanzania iwe kama
ilivyo baada ya Mwinyi kufuta azimio la Arusha na
ndiosababu wanakula bila kunawa, bila
aibu.em
2016-05-25 6:31
GMT-04:00 J L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com>:
Tumpe muda gan si ndo huu? Yaan wewe bado tu
unahofu na Magu???
Kukimbia nchi mbona wewe unakaribia marekani?
Wewe n mzalendo kweli????
On May 25, 2016 1:14
PM, "Emmanuel Muganda" <emuganda@gmail.com>
wrote:
Kukimbia nchi si
uzalendo. Nina hakika walikimbia kwa sababu azimio liliziba
mianya ya kutumia nafasi zao kujitajirisha.em
Sent from my iPad
On May 25, 2016, at 4:53 AM, J L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com>
wrote:
Muganda.
What is the problem with makonda au polepole na
other youth working with Magu? Wenye akili walikuwepo zaidi
ya hao labda wa karibu ni Salim Ahmed Salimu, hayati
sokoine. Tentemeke Sanga, Mzee Lwizandekwe, Jackson Makweta
to mention but a few.
Kipindi cha Nyerere watu kadhaa waliokuwa na
elimu walikimbia nchi kukwepa Sera ya ujamaa ya kulingana
kila kitu kwa wote vinginevyo wangeweza kupatkana warith
murua kuliko hawa ambao Nyerere alilazimika kuwafanya
specimen.
On May 25, 2016 11:07
AM, "'Lutgard Kokulinda Kagaruki' via
Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Mtu anayemlinganisha
Nyerere na hawa watawala wa sasa, ni dhahiri hakumjua
Nyerere vizuri!
LKK
On Wednesday, May 25,
2016 9:04 AM, 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Bado Magufuli ana nafasi ya kufanya masahihisho ya
makosa waliyofanya watangulizi wake. Yatakayomsaidia ni
haya:
1) Kuna makosa yaliyofanyika na watangulizi wake.
2) magufuli ana akili za kuyaelewa yote.
3) Ana nia njema na taifa hili na anajua hawezi kuyatimiza
yote anayoyawaza kulielekeza taifa hili katika kipindi cha
myaka 10.
4) haya tunayoyajadili anayasoma na ana akili ya kujua
tunasema nini. Ndiyo maana tunayasema wala hatusemi
kujifurahisha.
--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 5/25/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza
Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2016, 2:19 AM
JKamala,Kwa sababu naijua CCM. Ilimshinda
Nyerere mpaka akalazimika kurudisha multiparty. I am
essentially an optimist by nature,but not like
this. Akina Mkapa, Kikwete, Lowassa wote walilelewa na
Nyerere, lakini walikuwa chui waliovaa ngozi za kondoo.
Unaposemawatu walioonekana wenye vichwa
walilazimika kumkimbia Nyerere unamaanisha the likes of
Kambona? What did he do to show alikuwakichwa? Si
alifika London akabaki tu kunywa pombe. Angalia watu ambao
Magufuli anaona ni mahiri. Makonda? Na huyu waziri
aliyefukuzwa kazi karibuni?I am an optimist who
has been turned around by realities on the
ground.em
2016-05-24 12:11 GMT-04:00
J L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com>:
Muganda.
Kwann unaamini wasioshabikia anachokifanya Magu
watawashinda wale wanoshabikia? Pessimistic mbaya hiyo.
Harafu ujue kosa kubwa alilolifanya Nyerere
nikutokuwalea watu makini wa kimrith. Wale walioonekana
vichwa walilazimika kumkimbia Nyerere apart from Magufuri
anayewakumbatia na kuwalea vyema wakimsaidia kutekeleza
dhana yake ya hapa job tu
On May 24, 2016 6:11
PM, "Emmanuel Muganda" <emuganda@gmail.com>
wrote:
Elisa,Hatujawahi kuwa na rais mzuri, makini,
mzalendo kama Julius Nyerere. Lakini hata kabla hajaodoka
wenzake, kuanzia Mwinyi walihakikisha Unyerere unafutwa
nakushindwa. Ndivyo hivyo itakavyokuwa na
Magufuli. Sidhani kila mtu ndani ya CCM anashabikia
anachofanya mheshimiwa. Hence my conclusion kwamba
utashindwa.Nyerere alituwekea misingi kwa miaka
23 lakini katika kipindi cha miaka miwili tu Mwinyi
alianza
kuifuta akaja kumalizia Mkapa. Tuombe Mungu tuwepo halafu
tuje tupimemaneno yako na ya
kwangu.em
2016-05-24 7:10 GMT-04:00
'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
Afadhali ungesema Umagufuli
''unaweza kushindwa'' kuliko kusema
''utashindwa'. Ninatamani tuwepo wote wakati
huo
tukumbushane. Umagufuli unaweza kuendelea mpaka rais wa
tatu
kutoka kwake. Kuna sababu nyingi: Watu walichoka na
kuonewa
na watu waliokuwa ndani ya CCM. Wakafikia kuichukua CCM.
CCM
imenusulika kwa sababu ya kusambaratika upinzani. Baada ya
hapo CCM kumpata Magufuli akainusulu. Asipopepesuka
ataendelea kuishi baada yake. Kingine ni hiki cha kutafuta
watu na kuanza kuwalea. Sikumuongeza Makonda kwenye orodha
ya wanaolelewa makusudi. Magufuli akilenga kumuweka mrithi
na akatumia njia zinazotajwa humu, basi umagufuli utaishi
baada yake.
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 5/24/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza
Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2016, 1:20 AM
Ndani ya
CCM hakuna linaloweza kutabirika. Unyerere ulishindwa
kuendelea, Umwinyi ulishindwa na vile vile Umkapa na
Ukikwete.Hata Umagufuli utashindwa
tu.em
2016-05-23 16:30 GMT-04:00
'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
Kumbukumbu zizizo rasmi na zilizo
rasmi Tanzania zinaonyesha marais wote waliotangulia
walishindwa kuwaweka watu watakaorithi nafasi zao mara
baada
yao kumaliza vipindi vyao.
Mwalimu Nyerere inasemekana alishindwa kuhakikisha
chaguo
lake linapita na badala yake Ndugu Ali Hasan Mwinyi
akaichukua nafasi hiyo. Inasemekana chaguo la Mwalimu
alikuwa Ndugu Salim Ahmed Salim.
Ndugu Ali Hasan Mwinyi angalau huyo tunafahamu hakuwa
na
chaguo. Ushawishi wake uliporomoka sana na karibu
Mwalimu
Nyerere alikuwa strongman. Hotuba zake zinazotoka kila
mara
kwenye luninga zinajieleza. Mwalimu Nyerere alifanikiwa
kumpigia chepuo Ndugu Mkapa kwa hiyo Mwinyi
hakufanikiwa
kumpachika chaguo lake.
Wakati wa Benjamin Mkapa kung'atuka ilionekana alikuwa
na
chaguo lake japo kwa umahili wake haikuwa rais kumjua.
Lakini kuna dalili kuwa Jakaya Kikwete hakuwa chaguo
lake.
Wakati wa mkutano mkuu wa CCM kuteua mgombea Mkapa
alitoa
hotuba iliyoashilia anammaanisha JK, lakini bado hakuwa
chaguo lake.
Ndugu JK ameng'atuka. Alijitahidi kwa uwazi tena bila
kificho kutaka kurithiwa na chaguo lake. Sitakuwa
nimekosea
nikiongeza kuwa kwa matamshi ya wanafamilia chaguo hilo
halikuwa la JK peke yake bali lilikuwa la familia yake.
Pamoja na makeke yote hayo mwisho wake JK hakurithiwa
na
chaguo lake. Kuna hisia kuwa ni Mkapa aliyefanikiwa
kushawishi chaguo. Kama kuna ukweli ndani yake basi
Magufuli
alipita kwa uwezo wake na ushawishi wa Mkapa.
Dr. Magufuli ndiyo anaaza. Ana myaka minne iliyosalia
lakini
aweza kuendelea mpaka myaka kumi.
Dr Magufuli anaonyesha anaweza kurithiwa na chaguo lako
kwa
sababu kadhaa, zikiwamo zifuatazo:
1) Mtangulizi wake (JK) kama ilivyokuwa kwa
Mwinyi
haonekani kuwa anaweza kuwa na ushawishi mkubwa kuliko
Magufuli wakati ukifika. Badala yake Magufuli anaweza
kuwa
na ushawishi mkubwa kiasi cha watu hata kutamani
kubadili
katiba ili aendelee japo hawezi kukubali. Hii inampa
nafasi
ya kuwapendekezea watanzania nani awe mrithi wake.
2) Mwendo wa Dr. Magufuli ana uwezekano wa kuwa
na
idadi ya watu ambao yeyote kati yao akichaguliwa
atakuwa
mteule wake. Mfano: (1) Jinsi ambavyo Naibu Speaker
alivyoingizwa, sitashangaa kama 2025 atajitokeza
kugombea.
Akigombea baada ya kulelewa enzi hizi ngumu kutokuwa
chaguo
lake. (2) Tunamuona Naibu Waziri wa Tamisemi Suleiman
Daffo.
Ukimuangalia sana, hatofautiani na Magufuli katika
mambo
Fulani. Matamshi yake hayaonyeshi ubandia au uigizaji
wowote. Huyu namtilia shaka kuwa yuko analelewa. (3)
Wakati
watu waliposema Humphrey Polepole anapigania ukuu wa
Wilaya
niliwashangaa. Na naamini Polepole hakuwa na haraka ya
kuupata Ukuu wa Wilaya. Kama angependa kupigania
angeutafuta
uwaziri. Kitendo cha kumteua kwa nafasi ambayo
kimuonekano
ni ya chini kwake sitafanya kosa nikisema amepelekwa
kwenye
nafasi hiyo ya chini ili apande polepole na kufikia
2025
atakuwa ameupata uzoefu ambao kwa sasa unaonekana hana
na
labda watanzania watakuwa wamemjua zaidi. (4) Kwa mwendo
huu
Magufuli anaweza kuweka chaguo lake hata chama cha
upinzani
ili mradi kufika siku zile atakayepita awe mmoja kati
ya
walengwa wake.
Kama huu nio mkakati wake basi Baada ya Magufuli
umagufuli
utaendelea. Kama hakuwa amekusudia hivyo nitashangaa
sana
kama hataanza.
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