Elisa,
Una nia njema sana kuleta huu mjadala. Na mimi kama Mtanzania ningetumaini kama unachosema kinawezekana. Lakini kutokana na uzoefu wa siasa zetu
nachelea kusema kuwa itakuwa vigumu MAGUFULI kimrithisha yule anayedhani ataendeleza kasi yake. Nina sababu mbili. Kwanza, vita ndani ya CCM imeshaanza kumkwamisha Magufuli asifanikiwe kung'oa mizizi ya ufisadi. Nasikia kuna baadhi ya mawaziri wanaendesha kampeni za chini chini Magufuli ang'olewe 2020. Pili, hata atakapofanikiwa kuwatimu hawa ndani ya chama bado kuna kundi jengine la opportunists. Hawa ni chuki watakaojivisha ngozi za kondoo ndani ya chama na kuonekana
kama kweli wana moto wa kazi ya Magufuli. Mfano mmoja tu ni hizi safari za kushtukiza. Ghafla, kila waziri au mtendaji serikalini alitaka kuonekana ana ari ya kushtukiza. Walikuwepo awamu zilizopita na hawakufanya kitu. Mkapa ni miongoni mwa waliofanya kazi kwa karibu sana na MWALIMU, yet kuna wakati aliniambia yeye HERO wake alikuwa ni arap MOI, a thief and a killer. Sikuelewa mpaka Mkapa alipoingia Ikulu. Kumbe alitaka kuwa anaother Moi. Sasa wa aina hii watakuwepo wengi tu pindi Magufuli atakapoonekana kutokuwa na ushindani ndani ya chama. Hiyo ndiyo hofu yangu kubwa. Kama nilivyosema, nia yako ni njema lakini haitakuwa rahisi kama wewe ufikiriavyo.
em
2016-05-26 14:04 GMT-04:00 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
Domonick. Kama mjadala huu Magufuli hana muda nao basi hafai kuwa rais. Hili lazima liwe mojq kati ya agenda yake. Kumbuka tunajadili mrithi wake. Kujipanga kusahihisha mambo na kujenga taifa, jambo ambalo atakuwa hajamaliza muda wake uishe halafu asifikirie nani ataezeka jengo alilomaliza kupaua-atakuwa hafai basi. Mimi naamini hii ni agenda yake. Tunamsaidia na kumpa mbinu tunapoijadili
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On Thu, 5/26/16, 'Dominick Rukokelwa' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, May 26, 2016, 6:02 PM
Mjadala
ni mzuri na mkali. Mnahama halafu mnarudi. Tungepta nafasi
pengine ya kuzungumza na Rais Magufuli huenda hii kwake
isingekuwa hoja kubwa kwake ingawa ni nzuri. Yeye Rais ana
ajenda na majukumu na vipaumbele vyake. Na sisi raia
wazalendo na wasio wazalendo tunapaswa kushiriki kumuunga
mkono kwa vitendo ili kuleta mapinduzi. Wazalendo wanaweza
kupaza sauti kila eneo kwa mfano kuwakumbusha raia wote
kudai risiti baada ya kununua bidhaa kila inavyowezekana
hili ni hitaji kuu la Rais Magufuli, na raia wasio wazalendo
ni maadui wa taifa hili haijalishi wapo upande wa utawala au
upinzani. Wazalendo ni lazima wawe na mkakati wa kipekee wa
kuleta maendeleo ya taifa. Wazalendo ni lazima sana
kufikiria namna ya kupunguza tatizo la ukosefu wa ajira
nchini. Wazalendo ni watu wanaoaminika na kuaminiana
kupigania maslahi ya taifa, ikibidi kuunganisha nguvu zao ni
wepesi sana ili taifa lisonge mbele. Mhandisi mzalendo
hatapumzika mapaka ametumia akili yake, maarifa yake na
ujuzi wake, vyote mpaka kwenye ukomo wake
akishirikiana na wengine kuona raia wanatumia nishati
ya jua kuchemsha maji ya kunywa. Wazalendo wana uwezo mkuu
wa kukaa huko waliko wahitaji/raia wa chini/wanyonge. Kwa
wazalendo hakuna nafasi ndogo, kila nafasi inatumika hata
kama itawabidi kuungana kujenga kiwanda kidogo cha
kutengeneza sukari chenye kuajiri watu kumi,nk hawatasita
kufanya kwa sababu shabaha yao ni kuleta mapinduzi. Nadhani
Rais Magufuli yuko hivyo.Dominick
On Thursday, May 26,
2016 10:17 AM, J L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com> wrote:
Elisa. Katiba sio
kila kitu. Angalia Kenya wanakatiba ya wananchi lkn nini
kinaendelea huko
On May 26, 2016 9:05 AM,
"'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Points
(fom both sides) taken. Let us go ahead with the HOJA:
Magufuli kufanikiwa kumuacha rais wa chaguo lake hivyo
kuimarisha na kuendeleza mafanikio atakayokuwa ameyafikiwa
(kama hataharibu).
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On Thu, 5/26/16, J L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa
kwanza Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
To: "wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, May 26, 2016, 7:04 AM
Muganda.
Nilichokuhoji na ulichonijibu mbona n mjadala
mzuri tu wenye kuelimisha sasa huyu mama anaita
matusi.
Mbona nimekuhoji na wewe ukanijibu vyema nikaelimika?
Eti
Muganda kwenye swali langu la wewe kuish marekan
umeona tusi
lolote mkuu? Is there any person who should decide for
you
kwamba umetukanwa?.
Kwenye mijadala naamini katk kuhoji bila
kuangalia eti umri. Nimekulia kwenye jamii ambayo
kumhoji
mkubwa ni tusi linalostahiri adhabu mbaya sana. Kwa
mfano
niliwahi kuhoj mchungaji kwenda kutibiwa Hosp wakat
anatuombea tusiugue/tupone nikatwisha viboko badala
ya
kujibiwa.
Kimsingi sijaporomosha tusi lolote kwako bwana
Muganda na sjjafukuzwa jukwaa hili kwa kumtusi mtu.
Naomba
nieleweke hivyo usilishwe maneno mkuu
On May 26, 2016 3:01 AM,
"'ananilea nkya' via Wanabidii"
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Kaka
Elisa Muhingo,Ni kweli mtu--yaani tabia
ya mtu ni muhimu katika uongozi lakini muhimu
zaidi sana
katika zama hizi za uutandawazi wizi na siasa za
vyama
vingi, misingi iliyowekwa Kikatiba ni
muhimu sana.
Misingi hiyo inaepusha mtawala au kikundi ya
watawala kuwa
fisadi. Ufisadi wa EPA, Deep Green, Twin
Towers,
Richmond, Escow, Lugumi and many more ni ishara
kwamba
mkataba kati ya watawala na watawaliwa (Katiba
ya Nchi)
katika Jamhuri yetu ni dhaifu sana. Ni ishara
mkataba una
matobo makubwa sana yanayowezesha watawala
kukwapua mali
za wana wa nchi kilaini tena bila
kuchukuliwa hatua
zinazoweza kukomesha au kupunguza kwa kiasi kikubwa
ufisadi
nchini. Naye Rais wetu
Magufuli --ni kweli anaonekana
kuwa na dhamira ya kuirejesha nchi katika nidhamu
ya
uongozi, lakini asipolielewa hili tatizo
la msingi na
akalifanyia kazi--hata atende mema kiasi
gani--tuendako
giza litakuwa nene zaidi kuhusu ufisadi angamizi
ndani
ya Jamhuri yetu na mamilioni wataendelea kuumia
kwa
ufukara.Ananilea Nkya
E-mail:ananilea_nkya@yahoo.com
On Wednesday, May 25,
2016 8:29 PM, 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Tunajadili hatma ya taifa letu.
Tunajadili upatikanaji wa viongozi wetu.
Tunawajadili
viongozi wetu kuwa na malengo, kuweka misingi lakini
kwa
kutokuwa na ushawishi wa nani afuate misingi
ikabomoka.
nyerere aliweka msingi Mwinyi akabom oa. mkapa
alilipa
madeni JK akaleta mengine kwa sababu mkapa hakuweza
kumuweka
atakayeyaendeleza. mada hii inalenga kumshawishi rais
wetu
kuliona hilo. Wametajwa watu ambao ameanza nao
ambao
akiwalea wanaweza kulinda mafanikio yao. Huo ni
mstakabali
wa taifa letu. naona kamala na Mganda mnaenda nje
kidogo na
kuna madhara makubwa kusema mambo ya mtu binafsi.
Haikuwa
maana yangu wakati naandika mada.
Elisa
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On Wed, 5/25/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re:
[wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza Tanzania
kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2016, 6:49 PM
Kamala,Mimi si
mwanasiasa. Sikukimbia nchi. I would have
loved to serve
Tanzania but fate had it
that after I graduated my father
died and
the onlyway I could help my 2 little
sisters continue their education is get a job in
America
and
bring them here. So you can call me
what you
maybut I do not regret
contributing to my
sister's education
something I would not have been able
to do
if I had returned to Tanzania and
startlooking for a job. Lakini wote
waliokimbia azimio la Arusha walitaka Tanzania
iwe kama
ilivyo baada ya Mwinyi kufuta azimio la Arusha
na
ndiosababu wanakula bila kunawa, bila
aibu.em
2016-05-25 6:31
GMT-04:00 J L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com>:
Tumpe muda gan si ndo huu? Yaan wewe bado
tu
unahofu na Magu???
Kukimbia nchi mbona wewe unakaribia marekani?
Wewe n mzalendo kweli????
On
May 25, 2016 1:14
PM, "Emmanuel
Muganda" <emuganda@gmail.com>
wrote:
Kukimbia nchi si
uzalendo. Nina hakika walikimbia kwa sababu
azimio liliziba
mianya ya kutumia nafasi
zao kujitajirisha.em
Sent
from my iPad
On May 25, 2016, at 4:53 AM, J
L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com>
wrote:
Muganda.
What is the
problem with makonda au polepole na
other
youth working with Magu? Wenye akili walikuwepo
zaidi
ya hao labda wa karibu ni Salim Ahmed Salimu,
hayati
sokoine. Tentemeke Sanga, Mzee
Lwizandekwe, Jackson Makweta
to mention but
a few.
Kipindi cha Nyerere watu kadhaa
waliokuwa na
elimu walikimbia nchi kukwepa
Sera ya ujamaa ya kulingana
kila kitu kwa
wote vinginevyo wangeweza kupatkana warith
murua kuliko hawa ambao Nyerere alilazimika
kuwafanya
specimen.
On May 25, 2016
11:07
AM, "'Lutgard Kokulinda
Kagaruki' via
Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Mtu
anayemlinganisha
Nyerere na hawa watawala
wa sasa, ni dhahiri hakumjua
Nyerere
vizuri!
LKK
On Wednesday, May
25,
2016 9:04 AM, 'ELISA MUHINGO'
via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Bado Magufuli ana nafasi ya kufanya
masahihisho ya
makosa waliyofanya
watangulizi wake. Yatakayomsaidia ni
haya:
1) Kuna makosa yaliyofanyika na
watangulizi wake.
2) magufuli ana akili za
kuyaelewa yote.
3) Ana nia njema na taifa
hili na anajua hawezi kuyatimiza
yote
anayoyawaza kulielekeza taifa hili katika kipindi
cha
myaka 10.
4) haya
tunayoyajadili anayasoma na ana akili ya kujua
tunasema nini. Ndiyo maana tunayasema wala
hatusemi
kujifurahisha.
--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 5/25/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa
kwanza
Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2016, 2:19 AM
JKamala,Kwa
sababu naijua CCM. Ilimshinda
Nyerere
mpaka akalazimika kurudisha multiparty. I am
essentially an optimist by nature,but not
like
this. Akina Mkapa, Kikwete, Lowassa
wote walilelewa na
Nyerere, lakini
walikuwa chui waliovaa ngozi za kondoo.
Unaposemawatu walioonekana wenye vichwa
walilazimika kumkimbia Nyerere unamaanisha the likes
of
Kambona? What did he do to show
alikuwakichwa? Si
alifika London akabaki
tu kunywa pombe. Angalia watu ambao
Magufuli anaona ni mahiri. Makonda? Na huyu waziri
aliyefukuzwa kazi karibuni?I am an optimist
who
has been turned around by realities
on the
ground.em
2016-05-24 12:11 GMT-04:00
J L Kamala
<jlkamala@gmail.com>:
Muganda.
Kwann unaamini
wasioshabikia anachokifanya Magu
watawashinda wale wanoshabikia? Pessimistic mbaya
hiyo.
Harafu ujue kosa kubwa alilolifanya
Nyerere
nikutokuwalea watu makini wa
kimrith. Wale walioonekana
vichwa
walilazimika kumkimbia Nyerere apart from Magufuri
anayewakumbatia na kuwalea vyema wakimsaidia
kutekeleza
dhana yake ya hapa job tu
On May 24, 2016 6:11
PM,
"Emmanuel Muganda" <emuganda@gmail.com>
wrote:
Elisa,Hatujawahi
kuwa na rais mzuri, makini,
mzalendo kama
Julius Nyerere. Lakini hata kabla hajaodoka
wenzake, kuanzia Mwinyi walihakikisha
Unyerere unafutwa
nakushindwa. Ndivyo
hivyo itakavyokuwa na
Magufuli. Sidhani
kila mtu ndani ya CCM anashabikia
anachofanya mheshimiwa. Hence my conclusion kwamba
utashindwa.Nyerere alituwekea misingi kwa
miaka
23 lakini katika kipindi cha miaka
miwili tu Mwinyi
alianza
kuifuta akaja kumalizia Mkapa. Tuombe Mungu tuwepo
halafu
tuje tupimemaneno yako na ya
kwangu.em
2016-05-24 7:10
GMT-04:00
'ELISA MUHINGO' via
Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
Afadhali ungesema Umagufuli
''unaweza kushindwa'' kuliko
kusema
''utashindwa'.
Ninatamani tuwepo wote wakati
huo
tukumbushane. Umagufuli unaweza kuendelea
mpaka rais wa
tatu
kutoka kwake. Kuna sababu nyingi: Watu walichoka na
kuonewa
na watu waliokuwa
ndani ya CCM. Wakafikia kuichukua CCM.
CCM
imenusulika kwa sababu ya
kusambaratika upinzani. Baada ya
hapo CCM
kumpata Magufuli akainusulu. Asipopepesuka
ataendelea kuishi baada yake. Kingine ni
hiki cha kutafuta
watu na kuanza kuwalea.
Sikumuongeza Makonda kwenye orodha
ya
wanaolelewa makusudi. Magufuli akilenga kumuweka
mrithi
na akatumia njia zinazotajwa humu, basi
umagufuli utaishi
baada yake.
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On Tue, 5/24/16,
Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa
kwanza
Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, May 24,
2016, 1:20 AM
Ndani ya
CCM hakuna linaloweza
kutabirika. Unyerere ulishindwa
kuendelea, Umwinyi ulishindwa na vile
vile
Umkapa na
Ukikwete.Hata Umagufuli utashindwa
tu.em
2016-05-23 16:30 GMT-04:00
'ELISA
MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
Kumbukumbu zizizo
rasmi na zilizo
rasmi Tanzania zinaonyesha marais wote
waliotangulia
walishindwa kuwaweka
watu watakaorithi nafasi zao mara
baada
yao kumaliza
vipindi vyao.
Mwalimu Nyerere
inasemekana alishindwa kuhakikisha
chaguo
lake
linapita na badala yake Ndugu Ali Hasan Mwinyi
akaichukua nafasi
hiyo. Inasemekana chaguo la Mwalimu
alikuwa Ndugu Salim Ahmed Salim.
Ndugu Ali Hasan Mwinyi angalau huyo
tunafahamu hakuwa
na
chaguo. Ushawishi wake uliporomoka
sana na karibu
Mwalimu
Nyerere alikuwa strongman. Hotuba zake
zinazotoka kila
mara
kwenye luninga zinajieleza. Mwalimu
Nyerere alifanikiwa
kumpigia chepuo Ndugu Mkapa kwa hiyo Mwinyi
hakufanikiwa
kumpachika chaguo lake.
Wakati wa Benjamin Mkapa kung'atuka
ilionekana
alikuwa
na
chaguo lake japo kwa umahili wake
haikuwa
rais kumjua.
Lakini
kuna dalili kuwa Jakaya Kikwete hakuwa chaguo
lake.
Wakati wa mkutano mkuu wa CCM kuteua mgombea
Mkapa
alitoa
hotuba iliyoashilia anammaanisha JK,
lakini bado hakuwa
chaguo lake.
Ndugu JK
ameng'atuka. Alijitahidi kwa uwazi tena bila
kificho kutaka
kurithiwa na chaguo lake. Sitakuwa
nimekosea
nikiongeza kuwa kwa matamshi ya wanafamilia
chaguo hilo
halikuwa la JK peke
yake bali lilikuwa la familia yake.
Pamoja na makeke yote hayo mwisho wake
JK
hakurithiwa
na
chaguo lake. Kuna hisia kuwa ni Mkapa
aliyefanikiwa
kushawishi chaguo. Kama kuna ukweli ndani yake
basi
Magufuli
alipita kwa uwezo wake na ushawishi wa
Mkapa.
Dr. Magufuli ndiyo
anaaza. Ana myaka minne iliyosalia
lakini
aweza
kuendelea mpaka myaka kumi.
Dr
Magufuli anaonyesha anaweza kurithiwa na chaguo
lako
kwa
sababu kadhaa, zikiwamo zifuatazo:
1) Mtangulizi wake (JK) kama
ilivyokuwa kwa
Mwinyi
haonekani kuwa anaweza kuwa na
ushawishi
mkubwa kuliko
Magufuli wakati ukifika. Badala yake Magufuli
anaweza
kuwa
na ushawishi mkubwa kiasi cha watu hata
kutamani
kubadili
katiba ili aendelee japo hawezi
kukubali.
Hii inampa
nafasi
ya kuwapendekezea watanzania nani awe
mrithi wake.
2) Mwendo wa Dr. Magufuli
ana uwezekano wa kuwa
na
idadi ya watu ambao yeyote kati yao
akichaguliwa
atakuwa
mteule wake. Mfano: (1) Jinsi ambavyo
Naibu Speaker
alivyoingizwa, sitashangaa kama 2025
atajitokeza
kugombea.
Akigombea baada ya kulelewa enzi hizi
ngumu kutokuwa
chaguo
lake. (2) Tunamuona Naibu Waziri wa
Tamisemi Suleiman
Daffo.
Ukimuangalia sana,
hatofautiani na Magufuli katika
mambo
Fulani. Matamshi yake
hayaonyeshi ubandia au uigizaji
wowote. Huyu namtilia shaka kuwa yuko
analelewa. (3)
Wakati
watu waliposema Humphrey Polepole
anapigania ukuu wa
Wilaya
niliwashangaa. Na
naamini Polepole hakuwa na haraka ya
kuupata Ukuu wa Wilaya. Kama angependa
kupigania
angeutafuta
uwaziri. Kitendo cha kumteua kwa
nafasi ambayo
kimuonekano
ni ya chini kwake
sitafanya kosa nikisema amepelekwa
kwenye
nafasi hiyo
ya chini ili apande polepole na kufikia
2025
atakuwa
ameupata uzoefu ambao kwa sasa unaonekana hana
na
labda watanzania watakuwa wamemjua zaidi. (4)
Kwa
mwendo
huu
Magufuli anaweza kuweka chaguo lake
hata
chama cha
upinzani
ili mradi kufika siku zile atakayepita
awe
mmoja kati
ya
walengwa wake.
Kama huu nio mkakati wake basi Baada ya
Magufuli
umagufuli
utaendelea. Kama hakuwa amekusudia
hivyo
nitashangaa
sana
kama hataanza.
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