Wednesday, 25 May 2016

Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?

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'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>Tunajadili hatma ya taifa letu. Tunajadili upatikanaji wa viongozi wetu. Tunawajadili viongozi wetu kuwa na malengo, kuweka misingi lakini kwa kutokuwa na ushawishi wa nani afuate misingi ikabomoka. nyerere aliweka msingi Mwinyi akabom oa. mkapa alilipa madeni JK akaleta mengine kwa sababu mkapa hakuweza kumuweka atakayeyaendeleza. mada hii inalenga kumshawishi rais wetu kuliona hilo. Wametajwa watu ambao ameanza nao ambao akiwalea wanaweza kulinda mafanikio yao. Huo ni mstakabali wa taifa letu. naona kamala na Mganda mnaenda nje kidogo na kuna madhara makubwa kusema mambo ya mtu binafsi. Haikuwa maana yangu wakati naandika mada.
>Elisa
>--------------------------------------------
>On Wed, 5/25/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
> To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2016, 6:49 PM
>
> Kamala,Mimi si
> mwanasiasa. Sikukimbia nchi. I would have loved to serve
> Tanzania but fate had it that after I graduated my father
> died and the onlyway I could help my 2 little
> sisters continue their education is get a job in America and
> bring them here. So you can call me what you
> maybut I do not regret contributing to my
> sister's education something I would not have been able
> to do if I had returned to Tanzania and
> startlooking for a job. Lakini wote
> waliokimbia azimio la Arusha walitaka Tanzania iwe kama
> ilivyo baada ya Mwinyi kufuta azimio la Arusha na
> ndiosababu wanakula bila kunawa, bila
> aibu.em
> 2016-05-25 6:31
> GMT-04:00 J L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com>:
> Tumpe muda gan si ndo huu? Yaan wewe bado tu
> unahofu na Magu???
> Kukimbia nchi mbona wewe unakaribia marekani?
> Wewe n mzalendo kweli????
> On May 25, 2016 1:14
> PM, "Emmanuel Muganda" <emuganda@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Kukimbia nchi si
> uzalendo. Nina hakika walikimbia kwa sababu azimio liliziba
> mianya ya kutumia nafasi zao kujitajirisha.em
>
> Sent from my iPad
> On May 25, 2016, at 4:53 AM, J L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Muganda.
>
> What is the problem with makonda au polepole na
> other youth working with Magu? Wenye akili walikuwepo zaidi
> ya hao labda wa karibu ni Salim Ahmed Salimu, hayati
> sokoine. Tentemeke Sanga, Mzee Lwizandekwe, Jackson Makweta
> to mention but a few.
> Kipindi cha Nyerere watu kadhaa waliokuwa na
> elimu walikimbia nchi kukwepa Sera ya ujamaa ya kulingana
> kila kitu kwa wote vinginevyo wangeweza kupatkana warith
> murua kuliko hawa ambao Nyerere alilazimika kuwafanya
> specimen.
> On May 25, 2016 11:07
> AM, "'Lutgard Kokulinda Kagaruki' via
> Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
> wrote:
> Mtu anayemlinganisha
> Nyerere na hawa watawala wa sasa, ni dhahiri hakumjua
> Nyerere vizuri!
> LKK  
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 25,
> 2016 9:04 AM, 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Bado Magufuli ana nafasi ya kufanya masahihisho ya
> makosa waliyofanya watangulizi wake. Yatakayomsaidia ni
> haya:
> 1) Kuna makosa yaliyofanyika na watangulizi wake.
> 2) magufuli ana akili za kuyaelewa yote.
> 3) Ana nia njema na taifa hili na anajua hawezi kuyatimiza
> yote anayoyawaza kulielekeza taifa hili katika kipindi cha
> myaka 10.
> 4) haya tunayoyajadili anayasoma na ana akili ya kujua
> tunasema nini. Ndiyo maana tunayasema wala hatusemi
> kujifurahisha.
>
> --------------------------------------------
> On Wed, 5/25/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza
> Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
> To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
> <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2016, 2:19 AM
>
> JKamala,Kwa sababu naijua CCM. Ilimshinda
> Nyerere mpaka akalazimika kurudisha multiparty. I am
> essentially an optimist by nature,but not like
> this. Akina Mkapa, Kikwete, Lowassa wote walilelewa na
> Nyerere, lakini walikuwa chui waliovaa ngozi za kondoo.
> Unaposemawatu walioonekana wenye vichwa
> walilazimika kumkimbia Nyerere unamaanisha the likes of
> Kambona? What did he do to show alikuwakichwa? Si
> alifika London akabaki tu kunywa pombe. Angalia watu ambao
> Magufuli anaona ni mahiri. Makonda? Na huyu waziri
> aliyefukuzwa kazi karibuni?I am an optimist who
> has been turned around by realities on the
> ground.em
> 2016-05-24 12:11 GMT-04:00
> J L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com>:
> Muganda.
> Kwann unaamini wasioshabikia anachokifanya Magu
> watawashinda wale wanoshabikia? Pessimistic mbaya hiyo.
> Harafu ujue kosa kubwa alilolifanya Nyerere
> nikutokuwalea watu makini wa kimrith. Wale walioonekana
> vichwa walilazimika kumkimbia Nyerere apart from Magufuri
> anayewakumbatia na kuwalea vyema wakimsaidia kutekeleza
> dhana yake ya hapa job tu
> On May 24, 2016 6:11
> PM, "Emmanuel Muganda" <emuganda@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Elisa,Hatujawahi kuwa na rais mzuri, makini,
> mzalendo kama Julius Nyerere. Lakini hata kabla hajaodoka
> wenzake, kuanzia Mwinyi walihakikisha Unyerere unafutwa
> nakushindwa. Ndivyo hivyo itakavyokuwa na
> Magufuli. Sidhani kila mtu ndani ya CCM anashabikia
> anachofanya mheshimiwa. Hence my conclusion kwamba
> utashindwa.Nyerere alituwekea misingi kwa miaka
> 23 lakini katika kipindi cha miaka miwili tu Mwinyi
> alianza
> kuifuta akaja kumalizia Mkapa. Tuombe Mungu tuwepo halafu
> tuje tupimemaneno yako na ya
> kwangu.em
> 2016-05-24 7:10 GMT-04:00
> 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
> Afadhali ungesema Umagufuli
> ''unaweza kushindwa'' kuliko kusema
> ''utashindwa'. Ninatamani tuwepo wote wakati
> huo
> tukumbushane. Umagufuli unaweza kuendelea mpaka rais wa
> tatu
> kutoka kwake. Kuna sababu nyingi: Watu walichoka na
> kuonewa
> na watu waliokuwa ndani ya CCM. Wakafikia kuichukua CCM.
> CCM
> imenusulika kwa sababu ya kusambaratika upinzani. Baada ya
> hapo CCM kumpata Magufuli akainusulu. Asipopepesuka
> ataendelea kuishi baada yake. Kingine ni hiki cha kutafuta
> watu na kuanza kuwalea. Sikumuongeza Makonda kwenye orodha
> ya wanaolelewa makusudi. Magufuli akilenga kumuweka mrithi
> na akatumia njia zinazotajwa humu, basi umagufuli utaishi
> baada yake.
>
> --------------------------------------------
>
> On Tue, 5/24/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>  Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza
> Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
>
>  To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
> <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>
>  Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2016, 1:20 AM
>
>
>
>  Ndani ya
>
>  CCM hakuna linaloweza kutabirika. Unyerere ulishindwa
>
>  kuendelea, Umwinyi ulishindwa na vile vile Umkapa na
>
>  Ukikwete.Hata Umagufuli utashindwa
>
>  tu.em
>
>  2016-05-23 16:30 GMT-04:00
>
>  'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
>
>  Kumbukumbu zizizo rasmi na zilizo
>
>  rasmi Tanzania zinaonyesha marais wote waliotangulia
>
>  walishindwa kuwaweka watu watakaorithi nafasi zao mara
> baada
>
>  yao kumaliza vipindi vyao.
>
>
>
>  Mwalimu Nyerere inasemekana alishindwa kuhakikisha
> chaguo
>
>  lake linapita na badala yake Ndugu Ali Hasan Mwinyi
>
>  akaichukua nafasi hiyo. Inasemekana chaguo la Mwalimu
>
>  alikuwa Ndugu Salim Ahmed Salim.
>
>
>
>  Ndugu Ali Hasan Mwinyi angalau huyo tunafahamu hakuwa
> na
>
>  chaguo. Ushawishi wake uliporomoka sana na karibu
> Mwalimu
>
>  Nyerere alikuwa strongman. Hotuba zake zinazotoka kila
> mara
>
>  kwenye luninga zinajieleza. Mwalimu Nyerere alifanikiwa
>
>  kumpigia chepuo Ndugu Mkapa kwa hiyo Mwinyi
> hakufanikiwa
>
>  kumpachika chaguo lake.
>
>
>
>  Wakati wa Benjamin Mkapa kung'atuka ilionekana alikuwa
> na
>
>  chaguo lake japo kwa umahili wake haikuwa rais kumjua.
>
>  Lakini kuna dalili kuwa Jakaya Kikwete hakuwa chaguo
> lake.
>
>  Wakati wa mkutano mkuu wa CCM kuteua mgombea Mkapa
> alitoa
>
>  hotuba iliyoashilia anammaanisha JK, lakini bado hakuwa
>
>  chaguo lake.
>
>
>
>  Ndugu JK ameng'atuka. Alijitahidi kwa uwazi tena bila
>
>  kificho kutaka kurithiwa na chaguo lake. Sitakuwa
> nimekosea
>
>  nikiongeza kuwa kwa matamshi ya wanafamilia chaguo hilo
>
>  halikuwa la JK peke yake bali lilikuwa la familia yake.
>
>  Pamoja na makeke yote hayo mwisho wake JK hakurithiwa
> na
>
>  chaguo lake. Kuna hisia kuwa ni Mkapa aliyefanikiwa
>
>  kushawishi chaguo. Kama kuna ukweli ndani yake basi
> Magufuli
>
>  alipita kwa uwezo wake na ushawishi wa Mkapa.
>
>
>
>  Dr. Magufuli ndiyo anaaza. Ana myaka minne iliyosalia
> lakini
>
>  aweza kuendelea mpaka myaka kumi.
>
>
>
>  Dr Magufuli anaonyesha anaweza kurithiwa na chaguo lako
> kwa
>
>  sababu kadhaa, zikiwamo zifuatazo:
>
>
>
>  1)      Mtangulizi wake (JK) kama ilivyokuwa kwa
> Mwinyi
>
>  haonekani kuwa anaweza kuwa na ushawishi mkubwa kuliko
>
>  Magufuli wakati ukifika. Badala yake Magufuli anaweza
> kuwa
>
>  na ushawishi mkubwa kiasi cha watu hata kutamani
> kubadili
>
>  katiba ili aendelee japo hawezi kukubali. Hii inampa
> nafasi
>
>  ya kuwapendekezea watanzania nani awe mrithi wake.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  2)      Mwendo wa Dr. Magufuli ana uwezekano wa kuwa
> na
>
>  idadi ya watu ambao yeyote kati yao akichaguliwa
> atakuwa
>
>  mteule wake. Mfano: (1) Jinsi ambavyo Naibu Speaker
>
>  alivyoingizwa, sitashangaa kama 2025 atajitokeza
> kugombea.
>
>  Akigombea baada ya kulelewa enzi hizi ngumu kutokuwa
> chaguo
>
>  lake. (2) Tunamuona Naibu Waziri wa Tamisemi Suleiman
> Daffo.
>
>  Ukimuangalia sana, hatofautiani na Magufuli katika
> mambo
>
>  Fulani. Matamshi yake hayaonyeshi ubandia au uigizaji
>
>  wowote. Huyu namtilia shaka kuwa yuko analelewa. (3)
> Wakati
>
>  watu waliposema Humphrey Polepole anapigania ukuu wa
> Wilaya
>
>  niliwashangaa. Na naamini Polepole hakuwa na haraka ya
>
>  kuupata Ukuu wa Wilaya. Kama angependa kupigania
> angeutafuta
>
>  uwaziri. Kitendo cha kumteua kwa nafasi ambayo
> kimuonekano
>
>  ni ya chini kwake sitafanya kosa nikisema amepelekwa
> kwenye
>
>  nafasi hiyo ya chini ili apande polepole na kufikia
> 2025
>
>  atakuwa ameupata uzoefu ambao kwa sasa unaonekana hana
> na
>
>  labda watanzania watakuwa wamemjua zaidi. (4) Kwa mwendo
> huu
>
>  Magufuli anaweza kuweka chaguo lake hata chama cha
> upinzani
>
>  ili mradi kufika siku zile atakayepita awe mmoja kati
> ya
>
>  walengwa wake.
>
>
>
>  Kama huu nio mkakati wake basi Baada ya Magufuli
> umagufuli
>
>  utaendelea. Kama hakuwa amekusudia hivyo nitashangaa
> sana
>
>  kama hataanza.
>
>
>
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