Thursday, 26 May 2016

Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?

 Ilete mada Elisa tuijadili  naamini tutajifunza.


On Thursday, May 26, 2016 7:04 PM, 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Domonick. Kama mjadala huu Magufuli hana muda nao basi hafai kuwa rais. Hili lazima liwe mojq kati ya agenda yake. Kumbuka tunajadili mrithi wake. Kujipanga kusahihisha mambo na kujenga taifa, jambo ambalo atakuwa hajamaliza muda wake uishe halafu asifikirie nani ataezeka jengo alilomaliza kupaua-atakuwa hafai basi. Mimi naamini hii ni agenda yake. Tunamsaidia na kumpa mbinu tunapoijadili
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On Thu, 5/26/16, 'Dominick Rukokelwa' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, May 26, 2016, 6:02 PM

Mjadala
ni mzuri na mkali. Mnahama halafu mnarudi. Tungepta nafasi
pengine ya kuzungumza na Rais Magufuli huenda hii kwake
isingekuwa hoja kubwa kwake ingawa ni nzuri. Yeye Rais ana
ajenda na majukumu na vipaumbele vyake. Na sisi raia
wazalendo na wasio wazalendo tunapaswa kushiriki kumuunga
mkono kwa vitendo ili kuleta mapinduzi. Wazalendo wanaweza
kupaza sauti kila eneo kwa mfano kuwakumbusha raia wote
kudai risiti baada ya kununua bidhaa kila inavyowezekana
hili ni hitaji kuu la Rais Magufuli, na raia wasio wazalendo
ni maadui wa taifa hili haijalishi wapo upande wa utawala au
upinzani. Wazalendo ni lazima wawe na mkakati wa kipekee wa
kuleta maendeleo ya taifa. Wazalendo ni lazima sana
kufikiria namna ya kupunguza tatizo la ukosefu wa ajira
nchini. Wazalendo ni watu wanaoaminika na kuaminiana
kupigania maslahi ya taifa, ikibidi kuunganisha nguvu zao ni
wepesi sana ili taifa lisonge mbele. Mhandisi mzalendo
hatapumzika mapaka ametumia akili yake, maarifa yake na
ujuzi wake,  vyote mpaka kwenye ukomo wake
akishirikiana  na wengine kuona raia wanatumia nishati
ya jua kuchemsha maji ya kunywa. Wazalendo wana uwezo mkuu
wa kukaa huko waliko wahitaji/raia wa chini/wanyonge. Kwa
wazalendo hakuna nafasi ndogo, kila nafasi inatumika hata
kama itawabidi kuungana kujenga kiwanda kidogo cha
kutengeneza sukari chenye kuajiri watu kumi,nk hawatasita
kufanya kwa sababu shabaha yao ni kuleta mapinduzi. Nadhani
Rais Magufuli yuko hivyo.Dominick

    On Thursday, May 26,
2016 10:17 AM, J L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com> wrote:
 

  Elisa. Katiba sio
kila kitu. Angalia Kenya wanakatiba ya wananchi lkn nini
kinaendelea huko
On May 26, 2016 9:05 AM,
"'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Points
(fom both sides) taken. Let us go ahead with the HOJA:
Magufuli kufanikiwa kumuacha rais wa chaguo lake hivyo
kuimarisha na kuendeleza mafanikio atakayokuwa ameyafikiwa
(kama hataharibu).

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On Thu, 5/26/16, J L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com> wrote:



 Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa
kwanza Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?

 To: "wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>

 Date: Thursday, May 26, 2016, 7:04 AM



 Muganda.

 Nilichokuhoji na ulichonijibu mbona n mjadala

 mzuri tu wenye kuelimisha sasa huyu mama anaita
matusi.

 Mbona nimekuhoji na wewe ukanijibu vyema nikaelimika?
Eti

 Muganda kwenye swali langu la wewe kuish marekan
umeona tusi

 lolote mkuu? Is there any person who should decide for
you

 kwamba umetukanwa?.

 Kwenye mijadala naamini katk kuhoji bila

 kuangalia eti umri. Nimekulia kwenye jamii ambayo
kumhoji

 mkubwa ni tusi linalostahiri adhabu mbaya sana. Kwa
mfano

 niliwahi kuhoj mchungaji kwenda kutibiwa Hosp wakat

 anatuombea tusiugue/tupone nikatwisha viboko badala
ya

 kujibiwa.

 Kimsingi sijaporomosha tusi lolote kwako bwana

 Muganda na sjjafukuzwa jukwaa hili kwa kumtusi mtu.
Naomba

 nieleweke hivyo usilishwe maneno mkuu

 On May 26, 2016 3:01 AM,

 "'ananilea nkya' via Wanabidii"
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>

 wrote:

 Kaka

 Elisa Muhingo,Ni kweli mtu--yaani tabia

 ya mtu ni muhimu katika uongozi  lakini muhimu
zaidi sana

 katika zama hizi za uutandawazi wizi na siasa za
vyama

 vingi,   misingi iliyowekwa Kikatiba ni
muhimu sana. 

 Misingi hiyo inaepusha mtawala au kikundi ya 
watawala kuwa

 fisadi.  Ufisadi  wa EPA, Deep Green, Twin
Towers,

 Richmond, Escow, Lugumi and many more ni ishara
kwamba 

 mkataba kati ya watawala na watawaliwa  (Katiba
ya Nchi) 

 katika Jamhuri yetu ni dhaifu sana. Ni ishara
mkataba una

  matobo makubwa sana yanayowezesha watawala 
kukwapua mali

 za  wana wa nchi kilaini tena bila
kuchukuliwa hatua

 zinazoweza kukomesha au kupunguza kwa kiasi kikubwa
ufisadi

 nchini.  Naye Rais  wetu
Magufuli --ni kweli anaonekana

 kuwa na dhamira ya kuirejesha nchi katika nidhamu
ya

 uongozi, lakini  asipolielewa hili  tatizo
la msingi na

 akalifanyia  kazi--hata atende mema kiasi
gani--tuendako

 giza litakuwa nene zaidi  kuhusu ufisadi angamizi
ndani 

 ya Jamhuri yetu na  mamilioni wataendelea kuumia
kwa

 ufukara.Ananilea Nkya

  E-mail:ananilea_nkya@yahoo.com





     On Wednesday, May 25,

 2016 8:29 PM, 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>

 wrote:





  Tunajadili hatma ya taifa letu.

 Tunajadili upatikanaji wa viongozi wetu.
Tunawajadili

 viongozi wetu kuwa na malengo, kuweka misingi lakini
kwa

 kutokuwa na ushawishi wa nani afuate misingi
ikabomoka.

 nyerere aliweka msingi Mwinyi akabom oa. mkapa
alilipa

 madeni JK akaleta mengine kwa sababu mkapa hakuweza
kumuweka

 atakayeyaendeleza. mada hii inalenga kumshawishi rais
wetu

 kuliona hilo. Wametajwa watu ambao ameanza nao
ambao

 akiwalea wanaweza kulinda mafanikio yao. Huo ni
mstakabali

 wa taifa letu. naona kamala na Mganda mnaenda nje
kidogo na

 kuna madhara makubwa kusema mambo ya mtu binafsi.
Haikuwa

 maana yangu wakati naandika mada.

 Elisa

 --------------------------------------------

 On Wed, 5/25/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>

 wrote:



  Subject: Re:

 [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza Tanzania

 kurithiwa na chaguo lake?

  To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"

 <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>

  Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2016, 6:49 PM



  Kamala,Mimi si

  mwanasiasa. Sikukimbia nchi. I would have

 loved to serve

  Tanzania but fate had it

 that after I graduated my father

  died and

 the onlyway I could help my 2 little



 sisters continue their education is get a job in
America

 and

  bring them here. So you can call me

 what you

  maybut I do not regret

 contributing to my

  sister's education

 something I would not have been able

  to do

 if I had returned to Tanzania and



 startlooking for a job. Lakini wote



 waliokimbia azimio la Arusha walitaka Tanzania
iwe kama

  ilivyo baada ya Mwinyi kufuta azimio la Arusha

 na

  ndiosababu wanakula bila kunawa, bila

  aibu.em

  2016-05-25 6:31

  GMT-04:00 J L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com>:

  Tumpe muda gan si ndo huu? Yaan wewe bado

 tu

  unahofu na Magu???



 Kukimbia nchi mbona wewe unakaribia marekani?

  Wewe n mzalendo kweli????

  On

 May 25, 2016 1:14

  PM, "Emmanuel

 Muganda" <emuganda@gmail.com>

  wrote:

  Kukimbia nchi si

  uzalendo. Nina hakika walikimbia kwa sababu

 azimio liliziba

  mianya ya kutumia nafasi

 zao kujitajirisha.em



  Sent

 from my iPad

  On May 25, 2016, at 4:53 AM, J

 L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com>

  wrote:





 Muganda.



  What is the

 problem with makonda au polepole na

  other

 youth working with Magu? Wenye akili walikuwepo
zaidi

  ya hao labda wa karibu ni Salim Ahmed Salimu,

 hayati

  sokoine. Tentemeke Sanga, Mzee

 Lwizandekwe, Jackson Makweta

  to mention but

 a few.

  Kipindi cha Nyerere watu kadhaa

 waliokuwa na

  elimu walikimbia nchi kukwepa

 Sera ya ujamaa ya kulingana

  kila kitu kwa

 wote vinginevyo wangeweza kupatkana warith



 murua kuliko hawa ambao Nyerere alilazimika
kuwafanya

  specimen.

  On May 25, 2016

 11:07

  AM, "'Lutgard Kokulinda

 Kagaruki' via

  Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>

  wrote:

  Mtu

 anayemlinganisha

  Nyerere na hawa watawala

 wa sasa, ni dhahiri hakumjua

  Nyerere

 vizuri!

  LKK  

  



      On Wednesday, May

 25,

  2016 9:04 AM, 'ELISA MUHINGO'

 via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>

  wrote:

  





   Bado Magufuli ana nafasi ya kufanya

 masahihisho ya

  makosa waliyofanya

 watangulizi wake. Yatakayomsaidia ni



 haya:

  1) Kuna makosa yaliyofanyika na

 watangulizi wake.

  2) magufuli ana akili za

 kuyaelewa yote.

  3) Ana nia njema na taifa

 hili na anajua hawezi kuyatimiza

  yote

 anayoyawaza kulielekeza taifa hili katika kipindi
cha

  myaka 10.

  4) haya

 tunayoyajadili anayasoma na ana akili ya kujua

  tunasema nini. Ndiyo maana tunayasema wala

 hatusemi

  kujifurahisha.







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  On Wed, 5/25/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>

  wrote:



  

 Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa
kwanza

  Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?

   To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"

  <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>

   Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2016, 2:19 AM

  

   JKamala,Kwa

 sababu naijua CCM. Ilimshinda

   Nyerere

 mpaka akalazimika kurudisha multiparty. I am

   essentially an optimist by nature,but not

 like

   this. Akina Mkapa, Kikwete, Lowassa

 wote walilelewa na

   Nyerere, lakini

 walikuwa chui waliovaa ngozi za kondoo.

  

 Unaposemawatu walioonekana wenye vichwa

  

 walilazimika kumkimbia Nyerere unamaanisha the likes
of

   Kambona? What did he do to show

 alikuwakichwa? Si

   alifika London akabaki

 tu kunywa pombe. Angalia watu ambao

  

 Magufuli anaona ni mahiri. Makonda? Na huyu waziri

   aliyefukuzwa kazi karibuni?I am an optimist

 who

   has been turned around by realities

 on the

   ground.em

  

 2016-05-24 12:11 GMT-04:00

   J L Kamala

 <jlkamala@gmail.com>:

   Muganda.

   Kwann unaamini

 wasioshabikia anachokifanya Magu

  

 watawashinda wale wanoshabikia? Pessimistic mbaya
hiyo.

   Harafu ujue kosa kubwa alilolifanya

 Nyerere

   nikutokuwalea watu makini wa

 kimrith. Wale walioonekana

   vichwa

 walilazimika kumkimbia Nyerere apart from Magufuri

   anayewakumbatia na kuwalea vyema wakimsaidia

 kutekeleza

   dhana yake ya hapa job tu

   On May 24, 2016 6:11

   PM,

 "Emmanuel Muganda" <emuganda@gmail.com>

   wrote:

   Elisa,Hatujawahi

 kuwa na rais mzuri, makini,

   mzalendo kama

 Julius Nyerere. Lakini hata kabla hajaodoka

   wenzake, kuanzia Mwinyi walihakikisha

 Unyerere unafutwa

   nakushindwa. Ndivyo

 hivyo itakavyokuwa na

   Magufuli. Sidhani

 kila mtu ndani ya CCM anashabikia

  

 anachofanya mheshimiwa. Hence my conclusion kwamba

   utashindwa.Nyerere alituwekea misingi kwa

 miaka

   23 lakini katika kipindi cha miaka

 miwili tu Mwinyi

  alianza

  

 kuifuta akaja kumalizia Mkapa. Tuombe Mungu tuwepo
halafu

   tuje tupimemaneno yako na ya

   kwangu.em

   2016-05-24 7:10

 GMT-04:00

   'ELISA MUHINGO' via

 Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:

   Afadhali ungesema Umagufuli

   ''unaweza kushindwa'' kuliko

 kusema

   ''utashindwa'.

 Ninatamani tuwepo wote wakati

  huo

   tukumbushane. Umagufuli unaweza kuendelea

 mpaka rais wa

  tatu

  

 kutoka kwake. Kuna sababu nyingi: Watu walichoka na

  kuonewa

   na watu waliokuwa

 ndani ya CCM. Wakafikia kuichukua CCM.



 CCM

   imenusulika kwa sababu ya

 kusambaratika upinzani. Baada ya

   hapo CCM

 kumpata Magufuli akainusulu. Asipopepesuka

   ataendelea kuishi baada yake. Kingine ni

 hiki cha kutafuta

   watu na kuanza kuwalea.

 Sikumuongeza Makonda kwenye orodha

   ya

 wanaolelewa makusudi. Magufuli akilenga kumuweka
mrithi

   na akatumia njia zinazotajwa humu, basi

 umagufuli utaishi

   baada yake.

  

  

 --------------------------------------------

  

   On Tue, 5/24/16,

 Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>

   wrote:

  

  

  

  

  Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa
kwanza

   Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?

  

    To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"

   <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>

  

    Date: Tuesday, May 24,

 2016, 1:20 AM

  

  

  

    Ndani ya

  

    CCM hakuna linaloweza

 kutabirika. Unyerere ulishindwa

  

    kuendelea, Umwinyi ulishindwa na vile
vile

 Umkapa na

  

  

  Ukikwete.Hata Umagufuli utashindwa

  

    tu.em

  

    2016-05-23 16:30 GMT-04:00

  

    'ELISA

 MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:

  

    Kumbukumbu zizizo

 rasmi na zilizo

  

  

  rasmi Tanzania zinaonyesha marais wote
waliotangulia

  

    walishindwa kuwaweka

 watu watakaorithi nafasi zao mara

  

 baada

  

    yao kumaliza

 vipindi vyao.

  

  

  

    Mwalimu Nyerere

 inasemekana alishindwa kuhakikisha

  

 chaguo

  

    lake

 linapita na badala yake Ndugu Ali Hasan Mwinyi

  

    akaichukua nafasi

 hiyo. Inasemekana chaguo la Mwalimu

  

    alikuwa Ndugu Salim Ahmed Salim.

  

  

  

    Ndugu Ali Hasan Mwinyi angalau huyo

 tunafahamu hakuwa

   na

  



    chaguo. Ushawishi wake uliporomoka

 sana na karibu

   Mwalimu

  



    Nyerere alikuwa strongman. Hotuba zake

 zinazotoka kila

   mara

  



    kwenye luninga zinajieleza. Mwalimu

 Nyerere alifanikiwa

  

  

  kumpigia chepuo Ndugu Mkapa kwa hiyo Mwinyi

   hakufanikiwa

  

    kumpachika chaguo lake.

  



  

  

  

  Wakati wa Benjamin Mkapa kung'atuka
ilionekana

 alikuwa

   na

  

    chaguo lake japo kwa umahili wake
haikuwa

 rais kumjua.

  

    Lakini

 kuna dalili kuwa Jakaya Kikwete hakuwa chaguo

   lake.

  

  

  Wakati wa mkutano mkuu wa CCM kuteua mgombea
Mkapa

   alitoa

  

    hotuba iliyoashilia anammaanisha JK,

 lakini bado hakuwa

  

  

  chaguo lake.

  

  

  

    Ndugu JK

 ameng'atuka. Alijitahidi kwa uwazi tena bila

  

    kificho kutaka

 kurithiwa na chaguo lake. Sitakuwa

  

 nimekosea

  

  

  nikiongeza kuwa kwa matamshi ya wanafamilia
chaguo hilo

  

    halikuwa la JK peke

 yake bali lilikuwa la familia yake.

  

    Pamoja na makeke yote hayo mwisho wake
JK

 hakurithiwa

   na

  

    chaguo lake. Kuna hisia kuwa ni Mkapa

 aliyefanikiwa

  

  

  kushawishi chaguo. Kama kuna ukweli ndani yake
basi

   Magufuli

  

    alipita kwa uwezo wake na ushawishi wa

 Mkapa.

  

  

  

    Dr. Magufuli ndiyo

 anaaza. Ana myaka minne iliyosalia

  

 lakini

  

    aweza

 kuendelea mpaka myaka kumi.

  

  

  

    Dr

 Magufuli anaonyesha anaweza kurithiwa na chaguo
lako

   kwa

  

  

  sababu kadhaa, zikiwamo zifuatazo:

  

  

  

  

  1)      Mtangulizi wake (JK) kama
ilivyokuwa kwa

   Mwinyi

  

    haonekani kuwa anaweza kuwa na
ushawishi

 mkubwa kuliko

  

  

  Magufuli wakati ukifika. Badala yake Magufuli
anaweza

   kuwa

  

  

  na ushawishi mkubwa kiasi cha watu hata
kutamani

   kubadili

  

    katiba ili aendelee japo hawezi
kukubali.

 Hii inampa

   nafasi

  

    ya kuwapendekezea watanzania nani awe

 mrithi wake.

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  2)      Mwendo wa Dr. Magufuli
ana uwezekano wa kuwa

   na

  

  

  idadi ya watu ambao yeyote kati yao
akichaguliwa

   atakuwa

  

    mteule wake. Mfano: (1) Jinsi ambavyo

 Naibu Speaker

  

  

  alivyoingizwa, sitashangaa kama 2025
atajitokeza

   kugombea.

  

    Akigombea baada ya kulelewa enzi hizi

 ngumu kutokuwa

   chaguo

  



    lake. (2) Tunamuona Naibu Waziri wa

 Tamisemi Suleiman

   Daffo.

  

    Ukimuangalia sana,

 hatofautiani na Magufuli katika

   mambo

  

    Fulani. Matamshi yake

 hayaonyeshi ubandia au uigizaji

  

    wowote. Huyu namtilia shaka kuwa yuko

 analelewa. (3)

   Wakati

  



    watu waliposema Humphrey Polepole

 anapigania ukuu wa

   Wilaya

  

    niliwashangaa. Na

 naamini Polepole hakuwa na haraka ya

  

    kuupata Ukuu wa Wilaya. Kama angependa

 kupigania

   angeutafuta

  



    uwaziri. Kitendo cha kumteua kwa

 nafasi ambayo

   kimuonekano

  

    ni ya chini kwake

 sitafanya kosa nikisema amepelekwa

  

 kwenye

  

    nafasi hiyo

 ya chini ili apande polepole na kufikia

  

 2025

  

    atakuwa

 ameupata uzoefu ambao kwa sasa unaonekana hana

   na

  

  

  labda watanzania watakuwa wamemjua zaidi. (4)
Kwa

 mwendo

   huu

  

    Magufuli anaweza kuweka chaguo lake
hata

 chama cha

   upinzani

  

    ili mradi kufika siku zile atakayepita
awe

 mmoja kati

   ya

  

    walengwa wake.

  

  

  

  

  Kama huu nio mkakati wake basi Baada ya
Magufuli

   umagufuli

  

    utaendelea. Kama hakuwa amekusudia
hivyo

 nitashangaa

   sana

  

    kama hataanza.

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

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