Thursday, 26 May 2016

Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?

Mjadala ni mzuri na mkali. Mnahama halafu mnarudi. Tungepta nafasi pengine ya kuzungumza na Rais Magufuli huenda hii kwake isingekuwa hoja kubwa kwake ingawa ni nzuri. Yeye Rais ana ajenda na majukumu na vipaumbele vyake. Na sisi raia wazalendo na wasio wazalendo tunapaswa kushiriki kumuunga mkono kwa vitendo ili kuleta mapinduzi. Wazalendo wanaweza kupaza sauti kila eneo kwa mfano kuwakumbusha raia wote kudai risiti baada ya kununua bidhaa kila inavyowezekana hili ni hitaji kuu la Rais Magufuli, na raia wasio wazalendo ni maadui wa taifa hili haijalishi wapo upande wa utawala au upinzani. Wazalendo ni lazima wawe na mkakati wa kipekee wa kuleta maendeleo ya taifa. Wazalendo ni lazima sana kufikiria namna ya kupunguza tatizo la ukosefu wa ajira nchini. Wazalendo ni watu wanaoaminika na kuaminiana kupigania maslahi ya taifa, ikibidi kuunganisha nguvu zao ni wepesi sana ili taifa lisonge mbele. Mhandisi mzalendo hatapumzika mapaka ametumia akili yake, maarifa yake na ujuzi wake,  vyote mpaka kwenye ukomo wake akishirikiana  na wengine kuona raia wanatumia nishati ya jua kuchemsha maji ya kunywa. Wazalendo wana uwezo mkuu wa kukaa huko waliko wahitaji/raia wa chini/wanyonge. Kwa wazalendo hakuna nafasi ndogo, kila nafasi inatumika hata kama itawabidi kuungana kujenga kiwanda kidogo cha kutengeneza sukari chenye kuajiri watu kumi,nk hawatasita kufanya kwa sababu shabaha yao ni kuleta mapinduzi. Nadhani Rais Magufuli yuko hivyo.
Dominick


On Thursday, May 26, 2016 10:17 AM, J L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com> wrote:


Elisa. Katiba sio kila kitu. Angalia Kenya wanakatiba ya wananchi lkn nini kinaendelea huko
On May 26, 2016 9:05 AM, "'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Points (fom both sides) taken. Let us go ahead with the HOJA: Magufuli kufanikiwa kumuacha rais wa chaguo lake hivyo kuimarisha na kuendeleza mafanikio atakayokuwa ameyafikiwa (kama hataharibu).
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On Thu, 5/26/16, J L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
 To: "wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
 Date: Thursday, May 26, 2016, 7:04 AM

 Muganda.
 Nilichokuhoji na ulichonijibu mbona n mjadala
 mzuri tu wenye kuelimisha sasa huyu mama anaita matusi.
 Mbona nimekuhoji na wewe ukanijibu vyema nikaelimika? Eti
 Muganda kwenye swali langu la wewe kuish marekan umeona tusi
 lolote mkuu? Is there any person who should decide for you
 kwamba umetukanwa?.
 Kwenye mijadala naamini katk kuhoji bila
 kuangalia eti umri. Nimekulia kwenye jamii ambayo kumhoji
 mkubwa ni tusi linalostahiri adhabu mbaya sana. Kwa mfano
 niliwahi kuhoj mchungaji kwenda kutibiwa Hosp wakat
 anatuombea tusiugue/tupone nikatwisha viboko badala ya
 kujibiwa.
 Kimsingi sijaporomosha tusi lolote kwako bwana
 Muganda na sjjafukuzwa jukwaa hili kwa kumtusi mtu. Naomba
 nieleweke hivyo usilishwe maneno mkuu
 On May 26, 2016 3:01 AM,
 "'ananilea nkya' via Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:
 Kaka
 Elisa Muhingo,Ni kweli mtu--yaani tabia
 ya mtu ni muhimu katika uongozi  lakini muhimu zaidi sana
 katika zama hizi za uutandawazi wizi na siasa za vyama
 vingi,   misingi iliyowekwa Kikatiba ni muhimu sana. 
 Misingi hiyo inaepusha mtawala au kikundi ya  watawala kuwa
 fisadi.  Ufisadi  wa EPA, Deep Green, Twin Towers,
 Richmond, Escow, Lugumi and many more ni ishara kwamba 
 mkataba kati ya watawala na watawaliwa  (Katiba ya Nchi) 
 katika Jamhuri yetu ni dhaifu sana. Ni ishara mkataba una
  matobo makubwa sana yanayowezesha watawala  kukwapua mali
 za  wana wa nchi kilaini tena bila kuchukuliwa hatua
 zinazoweza kukomesha au kupunguza kwa kiasi kikubwa ufisadi
 nchini.  Naye Rais  wetu Magufuli --ni kweli anaonekana
 kuwa na dhamira ya kuirejesha nchi katika nidhamu ya
 uongozi, lakini  asipolielewa hili  tatizo la msingi na
 akalifanyia  kazi--hata atende mema kiasi gani--tuendako
 giza litakuwa nene zaidi  kuhusu ufisadi angamizi ndani 
 ya Jamhuri yetu na  mamilioni wataendelea kuumia kwa
 ufukara.Ananilea Nkya
  E-mail:ananilea_nkya@yahoo.com


     On Wednesday, May 25,
 2016 8:29 PM, 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
 wrote:


  Tunajadili hatma ya taifa letu.
 Tunajadili upatikanaji wa viongozi wetu. Tunawajadili
 viongozi wetu kuwa na malengo, kuweka misingi lakini kwa
 kutokuwa na ushawishi wa nani afuate misingi ikabomoka.
 nyerere aliweka msingi Mwinyi akabom oa. mkapa alilipa
 madeni JK akaleta mengine kwa sababu mkapa hakuweza kumuweka
 atakayeyaendeleza. mada hii inalenga kumshawishi rais wetu
 kuliona hilo. Wametajwa watu ambao ameanza nao ambao
 akiwalea wanaweza kulinda mafanikio yao. Huo ni mstakabali
 wa taifa letu. naona kamala na Mganda mnaenda nje kidogo na
 kuna madhara makubwa kusema mambo ya mtu binafsi. Haikuwa
 maana yangu wakati naandika mada.
 Elisa
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 On Wed, 5/25/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>
 wrote:

  Subject: Re:
 [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza Tanzania
 kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
  To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
 <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
  Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2016, 6:49 PM

  Kamala,Mimi si
  mwanasiasa. Sikukimbia nchi. I would have
 loved to serve
  Tanzania but fate had it
 that after I graduated my father
  died and
 the onlyway I could help my 2 little

 sisters continue their education is get a job in America
 and
  bring them here. So you can call me
 what you
  maybut I do not regret
 contributing to my
  sister's education
 something I would not have been able
  to do
 if I had returned to Tanzania and

 startlooking for a job. Lakini wote

 waliokimbia azimio la Arusha walitaka Tanzania iwe kama
  ilivyo baada ya Mwinyi kufuta azimio la Arusha
 na
  ndiosababu wanakula bila kunawa, bila
  aibu.em
  2016-05-25 6:31
  GMT-04:00 J L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com>:
  Tumpe muda gan si ndo huu? Yaan wewe bado
 tu
  unahofu na Magu???

 Kukimbia nchi mbona wewe unakaribia marekani?
  Wewe n mzalendo kweli????
  On
 May 25, 2016 1:14
  PM, "Emmanuel
 Muganda" <emuganda@gmail.com>
  wrote:
  Kukimbia nchi si
  uzalendo. Nina hakika walikimbia kwa sababu
 azimio liliziba
  mianya ya kutumia nafasi
 zao kujitajirisha.em

  Sent
 from my iPad
  On May 25, 2016, at 4:53 AM, J
 L Kamala <jlkamala@gmail.com>
  wrote:


 Muganda.

  What is the
 problem with makonda au polepole na
  other
 youth working with Magu? Wenye akili walikuwepo zaidi
  ya hao labda wa karibu ni Salim Ahmed Salimu,
 hayati
  sokoine. Tentemeke Sanga, Mzee
 Lwizandekwe, Jackson Makweta
  to mention but
 a few.
  Kipindi cha Nyerere watu kadhaa
 waliokuwa na
  elimu walikimbia nchi kukwepa
 Sera ya ujamaa ya kulingana
  kila kitu kwa
 wote vinginevyo wangeweza kupatkana warith

 murua kuliko hawa ambao Nyerere alilazimika kuwafanya
  specimen.
  On May 25, 2016
 11:07
  AM, "'Lutgard Kokulinda
 Kagaruki' via
  Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
  wrote:
  Mtu
 anayemlinganisha
  Nyerere na hawa watawala
 wa sasa, ni dhahiri hakumjua
  Nyerere
 vizuri!
  LKK  
  

      On Wednesday, May
 25,
  2016 9:04 AM, 'ELISA MUHINGO'
 via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
  wrote:
  


   Bado Magufuli ana nafasi ya kufanya
 masahihisho ya
  makosa waliyofanya
 watangulizi wake. Yatakayomsaidia ni

 haya:
  1) Kuna makosa yaliyofanyika na
 watangulizi wake.
  2) magufuli ana akili za
 kuyaelewa yote.
  3) Ana nia njema na taifa
 hili na anajua hawezi kuyatimiza
  yote
 anayoyawaza kulielekeza taifa hili katika kipindi cha
  myaka 10.
  4) haya
 tunayoyajadili anayasoma na ana akili ya kujua
  tunasema nini. Ndiyo maana tunayasema wala
 hatusemi
  kujifurahisha.



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  On Wed, 5/25/16, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>
  wrote:

  
 Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza
  Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
   To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
  <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
   Date: Wednesday, May 25, 2016, 2:19 AM
  
   JKamala,Kwa
 sababu naijua CCM. Ilimshinda
   Nyerere
 mpaka akalazimika kurudisha multiparty. I am
   essentially an optimist by nature,but not
 like
   this. Akina Mkapa, Kikwete, Lowassa
 wote walilelewa na
   Nyerere, lakini
 walikuwa chui waliovaa ngozi za kondoo.
  
 Unaposemawatu walioonekana wenye vichwa
  
 walilazimika kumkimbia Nyerere unamaanisha the likes of
   Kambona? What did he do to show
 alikuwakichwa? Si
   alifika London akabaki
 tu kunywa pombe. Angalia watu ambao
  
 Magufuli anaona ni mahiri. Makonda? Na huyu waziri
   aliyefukuzwa kazi karibuni?I am an optimist
 who
   has been turned around by realities
 on the
   ground.em
  
 2016-05-24 12:11 GMT-04:00
   J L Kamala
 <jlkamala@gmail.com>:
   Muganda.
   Kwann unaamini
 wasioshabikia anachokifanya Magu
  
 watawashinda wale wanoshabikia? Pessimistic mbaya hiyo.
   Harafu ujue kosa kubwa alilolifanya
 Nyerere
   nikutokuwalea watu makini wa
 kimrith. Wale walioonekana
   vichwa
 walilazimika kumkimbia Nyerere apart from Magufuri
   anayewakumbatia na kuwalea vyema wakimsaidia
 kutekeleza
   dhana yake ya hapa job tu
   On May 24, 2016 6:11
   PM,
 "Emmanuel Muganda" <emuganda@gmail.com>
   wrote:
   Elisa,Hatujawahi
 kuwa na rais mzuri, makini,
   mzalendo kama
 Julius Nyerere. Lakini hata kabla hajaodoka
   wenzake, kuanzia Mwinyi walihakikisha
 Unyerere unafutwa
   nakushindwa. Ndivyo
 hivyo itakavyokuwa na
   Magufuli. Sidhani
 kila mtu ndani ya CCM anashabikia
  
 anachofanya mheshimiwa. Hence my conclusion kwamba
   utashindwa.Nyerere alituwekea misingi kwa
 miaka
   23 lakini katika kipindi cha miaka
 miwili tu Mwinyi
  alianza
  
 kuifuta akaja kumalizia Mkapa. Tuombe Mungu tuwepo halafu
   tuje tupimemaneno yako na ya
   kwangu.em
   2016-05-24 7:10
 GMT-04:00
   'ELISA MUHINGO' via
 Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
   Afadhali ungesema Umagufuli
   ''unaweza kushindwa'' kuliko
 kusema
   ''utashindwa'.
 Ninatamani tuwepo wote wakati
  huo
   tukumbushane. Umagufuli unaweza kuendelea
 mpaka rais wa
  tatu
  
 kutoka kwake. Kuna sababu nyingi: Watu walichoka na
  kuonewa
   na watu waliokuwa
 ndani ya CCM. Wakafikia kuichukua CCM.

 CCM
   imenusulika kwa sababu ya
 kusambaratika upinzani. Baada ya
   hapo CCM
 kumpata Magufuli akainusulu. Asipopepesuka
   ataendelea kuishi baada yake. Kingine ni
 hiki cha kutafuta
   watu na kuanza kuwalea.
 Sikumuongeza Makonda kwenye orodha
   ya
 wanaolelewa makusudi. Magufuli akilenga kumuweka mrithi
   na akatumia njia zinazotajwa humu, basi
 umagufuli utaishi
   baada yake.
  
  
 --------------------------------------------
  
   On Tue, 5/24/16,
 Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>
   wrote:
  
  
  
  
  Subject: Re: [wanabidii] POMBE MAGUFULI: Rais wa kwanza
   Tanzania kurithiwa na chaguo lake?
  
    To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
   <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
  
    Date: Tuesday, May 24,
 2016, 1:20 AM
  
  
  
    Ndani ya
  
    CCM hakuna linaloweza
 kutabirika. Unyerere ulishindwa
  
    kuendelea, Umwinyi ulishindwa na vile vile
 Umkapa na
  
  
  Ukikwete.Hata Umagufuli utashindwa
  
    tu.em
  
    2016-05-23 16:30 GMT-04:00
  
    'ELISA
 MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
  
    Kumbukumbu zizizo
 rasmi na zilizo
  
  
  rasmi Tanzania zinaonyesha marais wote waliotangulia
  
    walishindwa kuwaweka
 watu watakaorithi nafasi zao mara
  
 baada
  
    yao kumaliza
 vipindi vyao.
  
  
  
    Mwalimu Nyerere
 inasemekana alishindwa kuhakikisha
  
 chaguo
  
    lake
 linapita na badala yake Ndugu Ali Hasan Mwinyi
  
    akaichukua nafasi
 hiyo. Inasemekana chaguo la Mwalimu
  
    alikuwa Ndugu Salim Ahmed Salim.
  
  
  
    Ndugu Ali Hasan Mwinyi angalau huyo
 tunafahamu hakuwa
   na
  

    chaguo. Ushawishi wake uliporomoka
 sana na karibu
   Mwalimu
  

    Nyerere alikuwa strongman. Hotuba zake
 zinazotoka kila
   mara
  

    kwenye luninga zinajieleza. Mwalimu
 Nyerere alifanikiwa
  
  
  kumpigia chepuo Ndugu Mkapa kwa hiyo Mwinyi
   hakufanikiwa
  
    kumpachika chaguo lake.
  

  
  
  
  Wakati wa Benjamin Mkapa kung'atuka ilionekana
 alikuwa
   na
  
    chaguo lake japo kwa umahili wake haikuwa
 rais kumjua.
  
    Lakini
 kuna dalili kuwa Jakaya Kikwete hakuwa chaguo
   lake.
  
  
  Wakati wa mkutano mkuu wa CCM kuteua mgombea Mkapa
   alitoa
  
    hotuba iliyoashilia anammaanisha JK,
 lakini bado hakuwa
  
  
  chaguo lake.
  
  
  
    Ndugu JK
 ameng'atuka. Alijitahidi kwa uwazi tena bila
  
    kificho kutaka
 kurithiwa na chaguo lake. Sitakuwa
  
 nimekosea
  
  
  nikiongeza kuwa kwa matamshi ya wanafamilia chaguo hilo
  
    halikuwa la JK peke
 yake bali lilikuwa la familia yake.
  
    Pamoja na makeke yote hayo mwisho wake JK
 hakurithiwa
   na
  
    chaguo lake. Kuna hisia kuwa ni Mkapa
 aliyefanikiwa
  
  
  kushawishi chaguo. Kama kuna ukweli ndani yake basi
   Magufuli
  
    alipita kwa uwezo wake na ushawishi wa
 Mkapa.
  
  
  
    Dr. Magufuli ndiyo
 anaaza. Ana myaka minne iliyosalia
  
 lakini
  
    aweza
 kuendelea mpaka myaka kumi.
  
  
  
    Dr
 Magufuli anaonyesha anaweza kurithiwa na chaguo lako
   kwa
  
  
  sababu kadhaa, zikiwamo zifuatazo:
  
  
  
  
  1)      Mtangulizi wake (JK) kama ilivyokuwa kwa
   Mwinyi
  
    haonekani kuwa anaweza kuwa na ushawishi
 mkubwa kuliko
  
  
  Magufuli wakati ukifika. Badala yake Magufuli anaweza
   kuwa
  
  
  na ushawishi mkubwa kiasi cha watu hata kutamani
   kubadili
  
    katiba ili aendelee japo hawezi kukubali.
 Hii inampa
   nafasi
  
    ya kuwapendekezea watanzania nani awe
 mrithi wake.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  2)      Mwendo wa Dr. Magufuli ana uwezekano wa kuwa
   na
  
  
  idadi ya watu ambao yeyote kati yao akichaguliwa
   atakuwa
  
    mteule wake. Mfano: (1) Jinsi ambavyo
 Naibu Speaker
  
  
  alivyoingizwa, sitashangaa kama 2025 atajitokeza
   kugombea.
  
    Akigombea baada ya kulelewa enzi hizi
 ngumu kutokuwa
   chaguo
  

    lake. (2) Tunamuona Naibu Waziri wa
 Tamisemi Suleiman
   Daffo.
  
    Ukimuangalia sana,
 hatofautiani na Magufuli katika
   mambo
  
    Fulani. Matamshi yake
 hayaonyeshi ubandia au uigizaji
  
    wowote. Huyu namtilia shaka kuwa yuko
 analelewa. (3)
   Wakati
  

    watu waliposema Humphrey Polepole
 anapigania ukuu wa
   Wilaya
  
    niliwashangaa. Na
 naamini Polepole hakuwa na haraka ya
  
    kuupata Ukuu wa Wilaya. Kama angependa
 kupigania
   angeutafuta
  

    uwaziri. Kitendo cha kumteua kwa
 nafasi ambayo
   kimuonekano
  
    ni ya chini kwake
 sitafanya kosa nikisema amepelekwa
  
 kwenye
  
    nafasi hiyo
 ya chini ili apande polepole na kufikia
  
 2025
  
    atakuwa
 ameupata uzoefu ambao kwa sasa unaonekana hana
   na
  
  
  labda watanzania watakuwa wamemjua zaidi. (4) Kwa
 mwendo
   huu
  
    Magufuli anaweza kuweka chaguo lake hata
 chama cha
   upinzani
  
    ili mradi kufika siku zile atakayepita awe
 mmoja kati
   ya
  
    walengwa wake.
  
  
  
  
  Kama huu nio mkakati wake basi Baada ya Magufuli
   umagufuli
  
    utaendelea. Kama hakuwa amekusudia hivyo
 nitashangaa
   sana
  
    kama hataanza.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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