Both women are great.
Madiba established a strong will spirit,the two women nurtured the spirit's glow and growth at different times.
They were great companions unmatched anywhere.
Sympathies to them,the great and big family,and the Qunu community.
Evans MACHERA
On Monday, December 9, 2013 6:40 PM, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
Okay Mwai. I withdraw the Nyeri joke and wish to let Wanjiru know that the devil made me do it. Tuko pamoja tupambane na maadui wa ODM
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 10:03 AM, George Mwai <mwaigg08@gmail.com> wrote:
KM,Am not laughing at you but at the way Tom was waiting to pounce on you. He was waiting for someone else to say itMwai GeorgeOn Dec 9, 2013 5:16 PM, "Kuria-Mwangi" <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:--Sio Mwai na Wanjiru? Mwai should know that a kettle should never call a pot black:)Operating System (OS)Ni Ugikuyu mwingi sana. I was not like that when I lived in Florida and was under a colonial power. Baltimore in Murang'a dogo and I dont need to give evidence. Wait until you hear Nyeri man like Mwai or woman like Wanjiru talk about Mwai taking for a visit to Nairobi show....It will be "Reta uchi ngo to Nyairobi choo".
--On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 9:05 AM, OS <sunoti@yahoo.com> wrote:
You cannot argue with facts. Kwani Mandera was that dumb to be played with and asked by akina Mbeki to dump her for such political reasons? You make Mandera look naive.What in hells name did Kuria eat to carry such shrubbing even into the land of my Cousin Obama! Does he listen to my cousin speak?
OS.
On Monday, December 9, 2013 4:43 PM, Tom Oreje <tomoreje@gmail.com> wrote:
Cidi,I got tired if his shrubbing! He needs a mouth massage ( not mouth to mouth but mangumi)He even crosses over to 's' and 'sh' which is not his domain, watch keenly.Cheers.On Dec 9, 2013 4:34 PM, "Naomi Cidi" <cidi.naomi@gmail.com> wrote:--KmHis name is MANDELA not Mandera! ):):):-
Sent from my iPadYou cannot argue with facts. Kwani Mandera was that dumb to be played with and asked by akina Mbeki to dump her for such political reasons? You make Mandera look naive.
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com> wrote:
There was alot of uchochezi and betrayal that created that divorce. There were even cases of men being paid to make Mandela aware that they were Winnie's boyfriends !!!!!Judy,I don't think these folks understand the uchochezi that went on behind the scenes from the National Party and also from people like Mbeki who did not want to see Mandela working together with Winie as one force. They wanted to divide these 2 to neutralize Winnie in case she had any ambitions of taking over the presidency from Mandela later on.
You guys better get a chance to talk to a guy like Cyril Ramaphosa. Why do you think Ramaphosa who was the Secretary-General of ANC was sidelined off politics at the same time? Akina Mbeki saw him as a Winnie sycophant and that was something they were scared of. They made sure to sideline most of Winnie's people from the party.
Courage--On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
Judy
Do you know why Winnie was let go? Do some background work on infidelity when Mandela was in prison and even after he was out. Forgiven for earlier ones but not in post prison period. She was too young for Tata.On Dec 8, 2013 3:03 PM, "Judy Miriga" <jbatec@yahoo.com> wrote:----No OS, they were not estranged, Mandela made it clear that it was not a divorse that they are separatingfor convinience reasons. That is understood and so "beloved" has some space.......which is why Gracais calling Winnie Big Sister............yaaani wanashare ki official..............and she remains a member of thefamily.................but, sometimes jelousy may be creeping why Winnie is not getting enough coverage andwhich is why Media may be stingy from the control of their masters................Wach the attached videos again and again................Judy MirigaDiaspora SpokespersonExecutive DirectorConfederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,USA----- Forwarded Message -----
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Warsome, Tell Judy those folks became estranged after that betrayal and are no longer "beloved" Mandela's beloved is Graca Machel. Kwani where does Judy live, Utopia? OSOn Sunday, December 8, 2013 8:10 PM, mohamed warsama <mhmdwarsama@yahoo.com> wrote:
Judy, don't yak about Winnie Mandela. She was the worst traitor to the sacred institution of marriage. She let a younger man score repeatedly inside her goalmouth. She should be beheaded Islamically !Mohamed WarsamaOn Sunday, December 8, 2013 7:14 PM, Judy Miriga <jbatec@yahoo.com> wrote:People of the world,Please share why Winnie and Nelson Mandela are synonymous, andas a woman she was deprived of fulfilling motherhood or even enjoyher husband after release from jail let alone having the pleasure of a family.I feel the pain of Mama Africa, Mourn Winnie, you have reason to mournand grief your beloved parting from real life.Judy Miriga Diaspora Spokesperson Executive Director Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc., USA http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com/Conversations with Felicia: Winnie Madikizela-Mandela, A Tribute to Women in the StruggleUploaded on Jun 8, 2011In a conversation with Dr. Felicia Mabuza Suttle, Winnie Madikizela-Mandela talks about the challenges her and other women like Albertina Sisulu faced for freedom in South Africa. Check out Conversations With Felicia at http://theafricachannel.com/======================The Mandela Tapes: Nelson Mandela on Winnie Mandela.Published on May 25, 2013Nelson Mandela on his relationship with Winnie Mandela while in prison. The interview is taken from The Mandela Tapes. This program draws on 50 hours of recorded conversations with Mandela, a treasure trove of oral history, held for many years in Johannesburg by archivists at the Nelson Mandela Centre of Memory. In The Mandela Tapes you'll hear a series of intimate, raw and revealing stories as Mandela speaks about his long and painful journey from childhood poverty to his triumphant rise to power. Hear it here: cbc.ca/ideas/themandelatapes.
The South African activist and former president Nelson Mandela (1918-2013) helped bring an end to apartheid and has been a global advocate for human rights. A member of the African National Congress party beginning in the 1940s, he was a leader of both peaceful protests and armed resistance against the white minority's oppressive regime in a racially divided South Africa. His actions landed him in prison for nearly three decades and made him the face of the antiapartheid movement both within his country and internationally. Released in 1990, he participated in the eradication of apartheid and in 1994 became the first black president of South Africa, forming a multiethnic government to oversee the country's transition. after retiring from politics in 1999, he remained a devoted champion for peace and social justice in his own nation and around the world until his death in 2013 at the age of 95.
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