'Lutgard Kokulinda Kagaruki' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Jibu swali! Hata hao wanaoshindana kila siku kupata ubunge na vyeo vingine, si kwamba hawana mali!
On Thursday, July 28, 2016 9:54 PM, 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Nilizaliwa mwaka 1952 na sasa naishi kwangu. Nenda Google andika Elisa Muhingo. Chukua muda wako kusoma robo ya utakayokuta kurasa saba za kwanza. Kama hutapata jipu niulize tena.
--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 7/28/16, 'Lutgard Kokulinda Kagaruki' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] 01.09.2016 Kosa jingine la kimkakati la Mbowe na CHADEMA
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, July 28, 2016, 5:56 PM
Elisa, huwa unalipwa kiasi
gani kwa yote haya unayoandikaga kila kuchao?
LKK
On Thursday, July 28,
2016 2:59 PM, 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Edgr. Hebu fikiria
hili:
Wakati wa kampeni vyma vilikuwa
vinatoa ahadi kujenga uchumi na kuendeleza nchi.
Sa kazi zimeanza ufanyika.
Mu
aamue kuitishamikutano na maandamano ka myaka mitan
unafikiri ahadi zilizoahidwa zitatimizwa?? Watu ndiyo
machinary ya kutekeleza yaliyoahidiwa. Ipo haa a kuangalia
agenda ya mktano au mandamano na kama hisiddii klupeeka
tunakokwenda hakuna njia. i kuzuia matendo hayo.
--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 7/28/16, Telesphor Magobe <tmagobe@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re:
[wanabidii] 01.09.2016 Kosa jingine la kimkakati la Mbowe na
CHADEMA
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, July 28, 2016, 12:47 PM
Kuna propaganda za
ajabu sana humu! Siwezi kuamini kwamba kuzuia
mikutano ya
vyama vya siasa au kuzuia watu
wasiseme kero zao hadharani
ndiko kuleta
maendeleo Tanzania. Ni dhana mbaya na hatari.
2016-07-28 11:26
GMT+03:00 Edgar Mbegu <embegu@hotmail.com>:
You are attacking the wrong point
Joseph! Come back to your senses! Walau katika
uzi huu
sijatamka neno maandamano!
Ninachokiamini na ninachokisema
ni kwamba,
vyama vya siasa viruhusiwe kufanya shughuli za
kisiasa kwani viko kihalali na ndizo shughuli
zao. Ni vigumu
kelewa hilo nalo katika yale
niliyoandika ??? Nasema tena:
si vyema kwa
mamlaka yoyote ile kukataza shughuli za vyama
za kisiasa zinazofanywa kistaarabu na zenye
kuzingatia
sheria nchi! Au basi vifutwe.
Kwa sababu vyama vya siasa
lazima vinadi
sera zao, vitafute wafuasi na vikue. Hili
ndilo ninaloamini na ninaloweza kulisimamia even at the
gun point. Mengine ya Mbowe na watoto wake
hayo ni yako
siwezi kuzuia yakazunguka
kichwani kwako. Die Gedanken
sind frei!!!!
punto e basta!!!!
Date:
Thu, 28 Jul 2016 07:15:22 +0300
Subject:
Re: [wanabidii] 01.09.2016 Kosa jingine la
kimkakati la Mbowe na CHADEMA
From: josephludovick@gmail.com
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Edgar
Ninao ushauri mmoja Tu kwako. Siku hiyo vaa
joho, tangulia
mbele ya hayo maandamano!.
Pamoja nawe awe Mbowe na watoto
wake ili
kama kutakuwa na mauaji wewe na watoto wa Mbowe
mfe! Labda mtapata fundisho. Hamkumbuki VIJANA
waliotolewa
kafara na CHADEMA Arusha?
Hamkumbuki kafara za morogoro?
Hamkumbuki?
CHADEMA wakati ule walisitisha vurugu zao kwamba
wameona maisha yanapotea! Leo kuna zuio rasmi
tena la Rais
wanatangaza maandamano. Maana
yake sasa hawaoni shida watu
wakifa?
Hata hivyo najua
wametafuta kiki Tu! Hakuna tena
watanzania
mazoba ama nyumbu wa kuunga mkono majizi na
wapiga dili! Mama Kiwasila husema walewale
On 27 Jul 2016 22:45, "'ELISA MUHINGO' via
Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Malika.
Kuna kazi kubwa ya kuielewa
CHADEMA:
Natamani
wanavyuo wanaosoma Political Science wakafanya
study kuhusu myenendo ya vyama fulani na mfano
ukachukuliw
wa CHADEMA.
nataka kutoa Hypothesisi ya kufanyia kazi:
mwelekeo wa
chadema hutegemea na mfadhili
anayetoa fedha:
Na mimi
niliwahi kukiamini chama hicho kama chama cha
kutumiwa na watanzania kuiondoa CCM
madarakani. Ni kipindi
ilipoacha reli na
kuanza kutembelea vichakani.
Nilifikiri ninaielewa vizuri CHADEMA wakati
wa mgogoro
wake na Zitto. Huenda nilikuwa
mkosaji.
Nikaanza
kuielewa ilipomtelekeza Dr. Slaa na kumkaribisha
Lowasa. Alipoingia CHADEMA ikatelekeza na
serayake ya
kutetea wanyonge na kumkumbatia
Lowasa na ikaendesha kampeni
za uchaguzi
bila sera au mwelekeo unaoeleweka.
Funga kazi ni ''buyanga
buyanga''
inayoendelea sasa. Vitiko
vya wabunge wake,mpaka kupewa
adhabu kila
leo. Kususia bunge bila sababu na mpango wa
maana na kiujumla kujifanya chama cha wanaharakati ni
vigumu
kujua kama sasa CHADEMA haitekjelezi
mkakati wa
''mfsdhili''anayelenga kuhqkikisha
tanzania
inavuruga amani yake.
Ukiwauliza wanachama wa
CHADEMA kupambana na Polisi
mnatekeleza
kipengele gani cha ilani yenu? Hawawezi kuwa na
jibu. nani anakiburuza chama.
Ninafikiri kuwa kama kweli CHADEMA ina
wanachama
wanaokipenda basi waanze
kuandamana kumkataa Mbowe maana
huenda
analipwa kukihujumu na kulihujumu taifa, kwa kujua au
bila kujua. Wakichelewea watakuja kugundua
wakati chama
kimekufa
--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 7/27/16, 'mpombe
mtalika' via Wanabidii
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Subject: [wanabidii]
01.09.2016 Kosa jingine la kimkakati
la
Mbowe na CHADEMA
To:
"ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 27,
2016, 4:34 PM
Nilifikiri
nakutarajia kuwa kuwa
Mbowe atatangaza kuwa kuanzia
tarehe
01-09-2016 ni siku ya
kwenda katika kila kona ya majimbo
ya
Chadema yote
na kata na mitaa
walizoshinda katika uchaguzi mkuu
uliopita
kushiriki
na wananchi masuala ya
maendeleo ikiwemo kuendeleza na
kukusanya nguvu
ya pamoja katika kuboresha na kujenga
miundombinu mipya
ya
kuchochea
maendeleo.
Ikiwa ni
pamoja kupiga vita umasikini kwa kuhakikisha
wanafunzi wanapata
vyumba vya madarasa, vyoo
safi, vifaa vya mashuleni ili
waweze kusoma
na kuelewa vizuri katika kuleta maendeleo na
demokrasia
zaidi ndani
ya
chama ambayo bado
ipo chini sana katika chadema ili
kukifanya chama kije
kuwa na wanamainduzi na viongozi wazuri wa
baadaye.
Badala
yake Mbowe anataka kuendelea kupambana na polisi
na
serikali ya
Rais
Magufuli jambo amabalo litakipotezea muda mwingi
chadema na mwisho
wa siku hakuna jipya ndani
ya chama na kubakia kuitwa
chama
cha vurugu
na maandamano nyasiyo na
tija kwa wananchi.
Mwisho
niwahusie Mbowe na chadema, wanachotaka kufanya ni
kosa la pili
la kimkakati badala ya
kosa la awali walilolifanya la
kukimbia bungeni
amabalo halina tija kwa wananchi wala waoi
wenyewe.
Mbowe na
chadema badala ya kuendelea kufanya makosa ya
kimkakati zaidi
amabayo hayana tija kwa
wananchi waliowachagua na badala
yake wanataka
kuendelea na maigizo wanayotarajia
kuyafanya, Chadema
haiwezi kufanikiwa
kwa kutunishiana misuri na jeshi la polisi pamoja na
serikali,
watafanikiwa kwa kuleta mabadiliko
katika majimbo na kata
wanazoziongoza
ili
mradi tu kuonekanane tofauti ya kiuongozi baina yaoi
na
ccm
tu.
Katika hili wanalotarajia
kutaka kufanya, hakika sasa
pengo
la Dr. Slaa
limeanza kuonekana live
ndani ya chadema na ni bora
Lowassa
akatafuta
njia ya kutoka humo kwa kuwa hawezi
kuizuia chadema na
siasa
za
uhanaharakati na hilo litamletea heshima zaidi kuliko
kubaki
ndani ya
chama
ambacho hawataki kubadilika.
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On Thu, 7/28/16, 'Lutgard Kokulinda Kagaruki' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] 01.09.2016 Kosa jingine la kimkakati la Mbowe na CHADEMA
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, July 28, 2016, 5:56 PM
Elisa, huwa unalipwa kiasi
gani kwa yote haya unayoandikaga kila kuchao?
LKK
On Thursday, July 28,
2016 2:59 PM, 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Edgr. Hebu fikiria
hili:
Wakati wa kampeni vyma vilikuwa
vinatoa ahadi kujenga uchumi na kuendeleza nchi.
Sa kazi zimeanza ufanyika.
Mu
aamue kuitishamikutano na maandamano ka myaka mitan
unafikiri ahadi zilizoahidwa zitatimizwa?? Watu ndiyo
machinary ya kutekeleza yaliyoahidiwa. Ipo haa a kuangalia
agenda ya mktano au mandamano na kama hisiddii klupeeka
tunakokwenda hakuna njia. i kuzuia matendo hayo.
--------------------------------------------
On Thu, 7/28/16, Telesphor Magobe <tmagobe@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re:
[wanabidii] 01.09.2016 Kosa jingine la kimkakati la Mbowe na
CHADEMA
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, July 28, 2016, 12:47 PM
Kuna propaganda za
ajabu sana humu! Siwezi kuamini kwamba kuzuia
mikutano ya
vyama vya siasa au kuzuia watu
wasiseme kero zao hadharani
ndiko kuleta
maendeleo Tanzania. Ni dhana mbaya na hatari.
2016-07-28 11:26
GMT+03:00 Edgar Mbegu <embegu@hotmail.com>:
You are attacking the wrong point
Joseph! Come back to your senses! Walau katika
uzi huu
sijatamka neno maandamano!
Ninachokiamini na ninachokisema
ni kwamba,
vyama vya siasa viruhusiwe kufanya shughuli za
kisiasa kwani viko kihalali na ndizo shughuli
zao. Ni vigumu
kelewa hilo nalo katika yale
niliyoandika ??? Nasema tena:
si vyema kwa
mamlaka yoyote ile kukataza shughuli za vyama
za kisiasa zinazofanywa kistaarabu na zenye
kuzingatia
sheria nchi! Au basi vifutwe.
Kwa sababu vyama vya siasa
lazima vinadi
sera zao, vitafute wafuasi na vikue. Hili
ndilo ninaloamini na ninaloweza kulisimamia even at the
gun point. Mengine ya Mbowe na watoto wake
hayo ni yako
siwezi kuzuia yakazunguka
kichwani kwako. Die Gedanken
sind frei!!!!
punto e basta!!!!
Date:
Thu, 28 Jul 2016 07:15:22 +0300
Subject:
Re: [wanabidii] 01.09.2016 Kosa jingine la
kimkakati la Mbowe na CHADEMA
From: josephludovick@gmail.com
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Edgar
Ninao ushauri mmoja Tu kwako. Siku hiyo vaa
joho, tangulia
mbele ya hayo maandamano!.
Pamoja nawe awe Mbowe na watoto
wake ili
kama kutakuwa na mauaji wewe na watoto wa Mbowe
mfe! Labda mtapata fundisho. Hamkumbuki VIJANA
waliotolewa
kafara na CHADEMA Arusha?
Hamkumbuki kafara za morogoro?
Hamkumbuki?
CHADEMA wakati ule walisitisha vurugu zao kwamba
wameona maisha yanapotea! Leo kuna zuio rasmi
tena la Rais
wanatangaza maandamano. Maana
yake sasa hawaoni shida watu
wakifa?
Hata hivyo najua
wametafuta kiki Tu! Hakuna tena
watanzania
mazoba ama nyumbu wa kuunga mkono majizi na
wapiga dili! Mama Kiwasila husema walewale
On 27 Jul 2016 22:45, "'ELISA MUHINGO' via
Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Malika.
Kuna kazi kubwa ya kuielewa
CHADEMA:
Natamani
wanavyuo wanaosoma Political Science wakafanya
study kuhusu myenendo ya vyama fulani na mfano
ukachukuliw
wa CHADEMA.
nataka kutoa Hypothesisi ya kufanyia kazi:
mwelekeo wa
chadema hutegemea na mfadhili
anayetoa fedha:
Na mimi
niliwahi kukiamini chama hicho kama chama cha
kutumiwa na watanzania kuiondoa CCM
madarakani. Ni kipindi
ilipoacha reli na
kuanza kutembelea vichakani.
Nilifikiri ninaielewa vizuri CHADEMA wakati
wa mgogoro
wake na Zitto. Huenda nilikuwa
mkosaji.
Nikaanza
kuielewa ilipomtelekeza Dr. Slaa na kumkaribisha
Lowasa. Alipoingia CHADEMA ikatelekeza na
serayake ya
kutetea wanyonge na kumkumbatia
Lowasa na ikaendesha kampeni
za uchaguzi
bila sera au mwelekeo unaoeleweka.
Funga kazi ni ''buyanga
buyanga''
inayoendelea sasa. Vitiko
vya wabunge wake,mpaka kupewa
adhabu kila
leo. Kususia bunge bila sababu na mpango wa
maana na kiujumla kujifanya chama cha wanaharakati ni
vigumu
kujua kama sasa CHADEMA haitekjelezi
mkakati wa
''mfsdhili''anayelenga kuhqkikisha
tanzania
inavuruga amani yake.
Ukiwauliza wanachama wa
CHADEMA kupambana na Polisi
mnatekeleza
kipengele gani cha ilani yenu? Hawawezi kuwa na
jibu. nani anakiburuza chama.
Ninafikiri kuwa kama kweli CHADEMA ina
wanachama
wanaokipenda basi waanze
kuandamana kumkataa Mbowe maana
huenda
analipwa kukihujumu na kulihujumu taifa, kwa kujua au
bila kujua. Wakichelewea watakuja kugundua
wakati chama
kimekufa
--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 7/27/16, 'mpombe
mtalika' via Wanabidii
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Subject: [wanabidii]
01.09.2016 Kosa jingine la kimkakati
la
Mbowe na CHADEMA
To:
"ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, July 27,
2016, 4:34 PM
Nilifikiri
nakutarajia kuwa kuwa
Mbowe atatangaza kuwa kuanzia
tarehe
01-09-2016 ni siku ya
kwenda katika kila kona ya majimbo
ya
Chadema yote
na kata na mitaa
walizoshinda katika uchaguzi mkuu
uliopita
kushiriki
na wananchi masuala ya
maendeleo ikiwemo kuendeleza na
kukusanya nguvu
ya pamoja katika kuboresha na kujenga
miundombinu mipya
ya
kuchochea
maendeleo.
Ikiwa ni
pamoja kupiga vita umasikini kwa kuhakikisha
wanafunzi wanapata
vyumba vya madarasa, vyoo
safi, vifaa vya mashuleni ili
waweze kusoma
na kuelewa vizuri katika kuleta maendeleo na
demokrasia
zaidi ndani
ya
chama ambayo bado
ipo chini sana katika chadema ili
kukifanya chama kije
kuwa na wanamainduzi na viongozi wazuri wa
baadaye.
Badala
yake Mbowe anataka kuendelea kupambana na polisi
na
serikali ya
Rais
Magufuli jambo amabalo litakipotezea muda mwingi
chadema na mwisho
wa siku hakuna jipya ndani
ya chama na kubakia kuitwa
chama
cha vurugu
na maandamano nyasiyo na
tija kwa wananchi.
Mwisho
niwahusie Mbowe na chadema, wanachotaka kufanya ni
kosa la pili
la kimkakati badala ya
kosa la awali walilolifanya la
kukimbia bungeni
amabalo halina tija kwa wananchi wala waoi
wenyewe.
Mbowe na
chadema badala ya kuendelea kufanya makosa ya
kimkakati zaidi
amabayo hayana tija kwa
wananchi waliowachagua na badala
yake wanataka
kuendelea na maigizo wanayotarajia
kuyafanya, Chadema
haiwezi kufanikiwa
kwa kutunishiana misuri na jeshi la polisi pamoja na
serikali,
watafanikiwa kwa kuleta mabadiliko
katika majimbo na kata
wanazoziongoza
ili
mradi tu kuonekanane tofauti ya kiuongozi baina yaoi
na
ccm
tu.
Katika hili wanalotarajia
kutaka kufanya, hakika sasa
pengo
la Dr. Slaa
limeanza kuonekana live
ndani ya chadema na ni bora
Lowassa
akatafuta
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