Re: [wanabidii] UKWELI KUHUSU RIDHWANI KIKWETE KUKAMATWA NA MADAWA YA KULEVYA CHINA

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On 10/29/12, Hosea Ndaki <hosea.ndaki@gmail.com> wrote:
> Naona usajili wa UVCCM umekamilika, kwa hiyo marmo anajadili mikataba wa
> chuma chetu cha liganga peke yake! namihuri anayo mifukoni? au? Na hivi
> vimeo vya ZTE nayo ni yeye? kamon mnatusukumizia korongoni.
>
> 2012/10/29 Ellay Mnyamoga <mnyamoga@live.com>
>
>> Mimi maranyingi nimekuwa nikitofautiana na Abdallah kwa sababu upeo wake
>> wa kufikiri ni mdogo mno kwani yeye anaangalia wasifu wa slaa au ukweli
>> na
>> uhalisia wa kilichoandikwa na slaa?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ezekiel Massanja **
>> Sent: 10/29/2012 1:39:22 PM
>> To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com **
>> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] UKWELI KUHUSU RIDHWANI KIKWETE KUKAMATWA NA
>> MADAWA YA KULEVYA CHINA
>>
>>
>> Chuki za Kidini ni mbaya sana, watu wanakosa hata mantiki ya kujieleza.
>> Huwezi kujua anaongelea nini wakati gani kwa vile amechanganya vitu kibao
>> kichwani. Huyu anaongelea uongo wa Dr. Slaa? dini ya Dr. Slaa? au Kanisa
>> Katoliki?
>>
>> Ana hasira kutokana na dini ya Dr. Slaa au ana Hasira na Dr. Slaa
>> mwenyewe?????
>>
>>
>>
>> 2012/10/29 Charles Misango <misangocharles@yahoo.com>
>>
>>> Mtu kama Slaa - mzushi, mwongo, mnafiki asiyeheshimu watu anaweza vipi
>>> kufikia hatua ya kuwa padre; baya zaidi aliweza vipi kupanda ndani ya
>>> mfumo
>>> huo hadi kufikia kuwa Katibu wa Baraza la Maaskofu (TEC)
>>>
>>> Haya ni maneno ya Abdallah aliyoyaandika katika ufafanuzi wake juu ya
>>> jambo hili. Hivi Kanisa Katoliki linaingizwaje katika suala hili? Yaani
>>> watanzania tumefikia kuwa na mawazo ya chuki za dini kiasi hicho!
>>>
>>> Slaa ama mtu yeyote akikosa ahukumiwe kivyake hata kama alikuwa na cheo
>>> kikubwa kuliko vyote ndani ya dini yake. Abdallah futa kauli hii MARA
>>> MOJA!
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On *Mon, 10/29/12, Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] UKWELI KUHUSU RIDHWANI KIKWETE KUKAMATWA NA
>>> MADAWA YA KULEVYA CHINA
>>> To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Monday, October 29, 2012, 9:57 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> Bariki,
>>> Kuna mantiki. Aliyeandika ripoti hiyo amejitaja kuwa alikuwemo kwenye
>>> msafara.
>>> Na kama alikuwemo basi lazima awe afisa mwandamizi Ikulu aka usalama wa
>>> taifa.
>>> Sijui Slaa amehusishwaje na ripoti hii.
>>> em
>>>
>>> 2012/10/29 Bariki Mwasaga
>>> <bmwasaga@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=bmwasaga@gmail.com>
>>> >
>>>
>>> Mimi sioni mantiki ya kuhusisha kilichoandikwa na Afisa Mwandamisi wa
>>> Usalama wa Taifa. Jambo la msingi ni kupata maelezo ya Dkt Slaa kama
>>> yapo
>>> kwani aliyeandika anaweza kuwa hata ni mwendawazimu tu wala sio mtumishi
>>> wa
>>> Serikali.
>>>
>>> 2012/10/29 Emmanuel Muganda
>>> <emuganda@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=emuganda@gmail.com>
>>> >
>>>
>>> Abdallah,
>>> Kabla ya kumhukumu Dr. Slaa nakushauri uangalie uwezekano kwamba hii
>>> story kama imetungwa, basi imetungwa na afisa mwandamizi katika idara ya
>>> usalama wa taifa. Hapo ndipo ninaona kuna tatizo. Ndio maana nimeuliza
>>> katika bandiko
>>> langu la awali, watu wenye akili watujulishe, ilikuwaje wakati Ikulu
>>> inaungua, kilichochukuliwa ni mafaili kuhusu biashara za Mkapa ambayo
>>> yalikuja kutumiwa na Kikwete na Rostum kumshinikiza Mkapa ampitishe
>>> Kikwete
>>> mwaka 2005. The problem is bigger than shutuma zako kuhusu uwongo wa
>>> Mheshimiwa Slaa.
>>> em
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/10/29 Abdalah Hamis
>>> <hamisznz@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=hamisznz@gmail.com>
>>> >
>>>
>>> Hii Ndiyo Fact Check Sahihi na ya Wazi
>>>
>>>
>>> WAHENGA waliamini kuwa tabia na hulka ya binadamu haibadiliki hata akiwa
>>> na umri mkubwa kiasi gani. Chukulia mfano wa Katibu Mkuu wa Chama cha
>>> Demokrasia na Maendeleo (CHADEMA) Mhe. Wilbroad Slaa. Huyu kwa umri
>>> wake,
>>> kwa asili yake ya kupitia mifumo ya dini ya Kikristo madhehebu ya
>>> Kikatoliki, asingekuwa mtu wa kutunga, kusema na kuwaaminisha watu
>>> ukweli.
>>> Huyo ni mtu ambaye alikuwa padre, kiongozi mkubwa wa kiroho.
>>> Usingemtegemea
>>> kabisa kutunga na kuwaambia watu uongo. Kwa hakika, tabia yake hiiya
>>> kutunga na kusema uongo inazua maswali kuhusu mfumo mzima wa kulea
>>> watoto
>>> katika Seminari na kufundisha mapadre katika Kanisa hili.
>>>
>>>
>>> Mtu kama Slaa - mzushi, mwongo, mnafiki asiyeheshimu watu anaweza vipi
>>> kufikia hatua ya kuwa padre; baya zaidi aliweza vipi kupanda ndani ya
>>> mfumo
>>> huo hadi kufikia kuwa Katibu wa Baraza la Maaskofu (TEC). Nasema
>>> haheshimu
>>> watu kwa sababu mtu anayetaka watu wamchangue awaongoze, hawezi tena
>>> kushiriki katika tabia ya kuwadanganya na kuwafanya wapumbavu. Lakini
>>> Bwana
>>> Salaa hili halimnyimi usingizi. Majuzi, Ijumaa, kule Sikonge, Tabora
>>> amezua
>>> na kutunga jipya. Amedai kuwa Julai 2, mwaka huu, 2012, Rais wa Jamhuri
>>> ya
>>> Muungano wa Tanzania Mheshimiwa Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete alisafiri kwenda
>>> Hong
>>> Kong kumwokoa mtoto wake wa kiume, Ridhiwani Kikwete ambaye anadaiwa
>>> kuwa
>>> alikuwa amekamatwa na mihadarati siku moja kabla, yaani Julai Mosi.
>>>
>>>
>>> Huu ni uongo wa dhahiri kwa sababu ratiba ya Mhe. Rais Kikwete katika
>>> siku hizo anazozitaja Slaa iko wazi.
>>>
>>> Julai Mosi, akitumia Ndege ya Rais, alisafiri kwenda Rwanda ambako
>>> alihudhuria Sherehe za Miaka 50 ya nchi hiyo na akalala mjini Kigali.
>>> Julai
>>> 2 alisafiri kwenda Bujumbura kuhudhuria Sherehe za Miaka 50 ya
>>> Burundi. Alirejea Dar es Salaam Julai 3 na Julai 4 alikutana na ujumbe
>>> wa
>>> Kampuni ya IBM na Mjumbe Maalum kutoka Zimbabwe. Julai 5, alikwenda
>>> Dodoma
>>> ambako aliendesha Kikao cha Baraza la Mawaziri na kurejea Dar es Salaam
>>> siku hiyo hiyo. Sasa alikwenda Hong Kong lini? Ama alikuwa Burundi na
>>> Hong
>>> Kong siku hiyo hiyo? Slaa anadai pia kuwa alipowasili Hong Kong,
>>> Mheshimiwa
>>> Rais Kikwete alipokelewa na Balozi wa Tanzania nchini China, Mheshimiwa
>>> Philip Marmo ambaye alimpeleka kwenye mkutano na Rais wa Jamhuri ya Watu
>>> wa
>>> China Mheshimiwa Hu Jintao. Huu ni uongo mwingine wa dhahiri na ambayo
>>> sijui unamsaidia nini Slaa. Slaa anasema uongo kuhusu Balozi Marmo kwa
>>> sababu ratiba ya Mheshimiwa Marmo kwa siku sita za mwezi Julai nayo iko
>>> wazi na siyo kificho.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kwanza, Ubalozi wa Tanzania katika China hauko Hong Kong bali uko mjini
>>> Beijing na Mheshimiwa Marmo hajawahi hata kufika Hong Kong. Taarifa
>>> kutoka
>>> Hong Kong amekuwa anazipata kutoka kwa Balozi Mdogo wa heshima wa
>>> Tanzania
>>> Mheshimiwa Clement Chan. Hata juzi, Ijumaa, Oktoba 26, Balozi Marmo
>>> alikutana na Bwana Clement Chan. Balozi Marmo anapanga kutembelea Hong
>>> Kong
>>> kwa mara ya kwanza mwishoni mwa mwezi ujao, Novemba, 2012. Angalia
>>> ratiba
>>> ya Mheshimiwa Marmo katika wiki ya kwanza ya mwezi Julai mwaka huu:
>>>
>>>
>>> Julai Mosi, Balozi Mamro alikuwa ofisini Beijing. Julai 2, Balozi
>>> alihudhuria Sherehe za Siku ya Mongolia mchana na usiku alihudhuria
>>> Sherehe
>>> za Siku ya Djibouti kwenye Hoteli ya Lengedane mjini Beijing. Siku nzima
>>> ya
>>> Julai 3 alishiriki katika warsha ya Kampuni ya China Chemicals
>>> Techonologies Group ambayo inataka kufungua viwanda cha madawa na
>>> mbolea
>>> nchini Tanzania. Asubuhi ya Julai 4, Balozi Marmo alikutana na ujumbe wa
>>> Kampuni ya Sichaun Honda Group inayowekeza katika miradi ya Mchuchuma na
>>> Liganga na jioni ya siku hiyo alikutana na ujumbe wa Kampuni ya
>>> Mawasiliano
>>> ya ZTE. Julai 5, Balozi alihudhuria Sherehe za Siku ya Venezuala Day na
>>> Julai 6 alijiunga na Mabalozi wa Nchi za Jumuia ya Afrika Mashariki
>>> katika
>>> mkutano wa Forum on Trade na Cooperation na jioni alihudhuria Sherehe za
>>> Rwanda Day. Sasa, Balozi Marmo alikwenda lini Hong Kong kumpokea
>>> Mheshimiwa
>>> Rais kama siyo uongo?
>>>
>>>
>>> Katika siku zinazotajwa, Bwana Ridhiwan alikuwa Dar es salaam muda
>>> wote. Kwa hakika, Ridhiwan hajapata kufika Hong Kong ama China katika
>>> maisha yake yote. Nchi pekee inayokaribia China ambayo amewahi
>>> kuitembelea
>>> ni Dubai kwa sababu hata India hajapata kufika. Ratiba hizi za Mhe. Rais
>>> na
>>> Mheshimiwa Marmo na ukweli kuwa Ridhiwan hajapata hata kufika China ama
>>> Hong Kong ni ushahidi usiopingika kuwa Mzee Slaa kwa mara nyingine
>>> ametunga, yeye amekuwa bingwa wa goofing. Huyu ni mtu anayezeeka vibaya.
>>> Tunaamini kuwa ameanza kuchanganyikiwa pengine kwa kuzidiwa na jukumu ya
>>> kulea mtoto-mjukuu na kumtunza mchumba Bi Josephine ambaye wanaishi kama
>>> vimanda kwa sababu huyo mama bado anayo ndoa halali. Pole sana Mzee Slaa
>>> kama Josephine na mwanae amekushinda mrudishie mwenye mali yake.
>>>
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