Re: [wanabidii] WALIOKUWA WAJUMBE WA TUME YA KUKUSANYA MAONI YA KATIBA WAKAE KIMYA

Wewe Unaye wataka wajumbe wa tume wakae kimya unatuchukuliaje sisi.

Ni watu wa kudanganywa tu au vipi.

Huu ni uhuru wa kueleza kile wanachokiona ni sahihi. Waache waseme ili. Tutachuja mbivu na mbichi sisi na si kuwaziba watu midomo.

Heri Rashid

On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 7:20 PM, 'Bishop Kulwajz' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Huyu Juma mzuri ana ufahamu kweli wa kuchambua pumba,waswahili wameloga mjinga akinyamza huhesabiwa ana akili si kama hajui chochote anyamaze tu na wenye akili watamhesabu na yeye ana akili kuliko anavyojiaibisha sasa kwa kupambana na ndg Polepole aliye mlima na yeye ni kichuguu, tume ndio ilisikiliza watanzania wanasema nini si hayo ya genge la kina sitta wanotukana viongozi wa dini,sitta kama anaona fani ya kuwa kiongozi wa dini inalipa aje ajiunge tuone huo utukufu anaouzungumza kama yeye anao.

'Nickson ngajilo' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Jamani ndugu zangu sio wote wanasoma rasimu na katiba iliyopendekezwa.Nashangaa maoni ya mchangiaji eti wajumbe wa kukusanya maoni wakae kimya.kwa nini?waache wawaeleze watanzania ili wafanye uamuzi sahihi.hii ni katiba yetu na kwa manufaa yetu sote,tukikosea hapa tumekwisha.

On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 12:44 PM, 'mwassa jingi' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Wajumbe wa iliyokuwa Tume ya Mabadiliko ya katiba wanayo haki ya kuendelea kutoa maoni yao kwani freedom of expression ni haki yao ya katiba. Tangu mchakato wa katiba uanze katika hatua zake zote kila mtu amekuwa huru kutoa mawazo yake kabla na baada ya kila hatua. Hata wajumbe wa BMK walijiapisha kwenda wananchi na kuitetea katiba wanaliyoipendekeza. Kama wajumbe wa BMK wana haki ya kuendelea kuwashawishi wananchi na yale yaliyopendekeza ndani ya katiba na kuwataka waipigie kura ya ndiyo, basi kila mtu ana haki ya kusema vingine na hata kuwashawishi wananchi walewale waipigie kura ya HAPANA. Haya ni mapambano ambapo kila mtu ana wajibu wa kufanya kile anachoona kinafaa na ndiyo maana hata viongozi wetu wakuu sasa wameanza kampeni ya kura ya maoni. Kila mahali wanapokwenda wanazungumzia katiba inayopendekezwa na kuwataka watu waipe kura ya ndiyo.Wasioipenda wana haki nao kuipinga kama wanavyofanya akina Warioba na wenzake.

mwassa.

From: Telesphor Magobe <tmagobe@gmail.com>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 10:36 AM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] WALIOKUWA WAJUMBE WA TUME YA KUKUSANYA MAONI YA KATIBA WAKAE KIMYA

Juma, unajidanganya bure! Tunajua kinachoendelea. Bunge Maalum la Katiba 'limebaka' maoni ya wananchi na kuingiza baadhi ya maoni, ambayo hayakutokana na utafiti wa tume. Mfano, ni tume gani ilikuwa imependekeza serikali mbili na kwamba wanaogombea ubunge wanatakiwa tu wajue kusoma na kuandika, kwamba kama wana elimu ya chuo ni ubaguzi na kwamba wananchi wasiwe na mamlaka ya kuwaondoa wabunge legelege? Huku kulikuwa ni kuboresha rasimu au kuibadilisha?

2014-10-22 9:46 GMT+03:00 mngonge franco <mngonge@gmail.com>:

Hakuna sababu ya kukaa kimya wakati wakiangalia mambo yakipindishwa. Kama watu wote wangekuwa na akili kama hiyo ya kukaa kimya basi hadi leo tungekuwa chini ya utawala ukoloni wa kizamani. Kwa vile baadhi ya watu kwenye jamii huwa wanakataa unyanyasaji, unyonyaj, ubaguzi na aina nyingine za ukiukwaji wa haki za binadamu ndo maana leo tuna uhuru wa bendera na bado tuanutafuta uhuru wa kweli. Mzee warioba, Polepole na wajumbe wajumbe wengine tukiwemo sisi walalahoi endelea kupinga upindishaji wa sheria na taratibu uliofanywa na utakaofanywa kupitisha katiba isiyofuata maoni ya wananchi

2014-10-22 9:12 GMT+03:00 Juma Mzuri <jumamzuri@gmail.com>:

HUYU POLE POLE ANATUONA SISI WATANZANIA WAJINGA.

NAWASHAURI WALIOKUWA WAJUMBE WA TUME YA KUKUSANYA MAONI YA KATIBA WAKAE KIMYA.

Kitendo cha wajumbe wa kamati ya kukusanya maoni ya katiba mpya kuendelea kupiga kelele na kampeni ya kuwashawishi wananchi kuikataa rasimu pendekezwa kunatia shaka kidogo.

Hivi hawa wajumbe walikuwa hawajui kuwa mchakato wa katiba mpya una hatua kuu tatu yaani ukusanyaji wa maoni kazi iliyofanywa na Tume, Kujadili maoni kazi ya BMK na kura ya maoni ambayo sis wananchi tunahusika.

Kila hatua kati ya hatua hizo upo kisheria kabisa sasa kitendo cha hawa wajumbe kuendelea ku defend rasimu yao waliyoandika na kuikataa hii pendekezwa kuna maanisha kuwa kulikuwa hakuna haja ya BMK. Kulikuwa na haja gani ya kuwa na BMK kama maoni yaliyokusanywa hayatachambuliwa na kuboreshwa aidha kwa kuondoa baadhi ya mambo au kuyaongeza??

Kwa nini hawa wajumbe wa tume ya maoni haituachii muda wa kusoma rasimu hii pendekezwa na kuamua sisi wenyewe?? huyu Humphrey Polepole ni kwanini anatusaidia kuisoma rasimu pendekezwa na kutushauri tupige kura ya hapana?? anatuchukuliaje labda sisi watanzania:-

1. Kuwa hatujui kusoma 
2.Kuwa hatujui kufanaya uchambuzi wa mambo
3. Ni wajinga sana
4. Yeye ndiye anayejua kila kitu hapa Tanzania

Kwa nini usikae kimya kama kina KABUDI ili tuisome kwanza tuimalize hii rasimu halafu ndio tuingie kwenye mijadala?? kwa nini unatusomea??

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