Tuache watu wawe huru na mawazo yao - kama huafikiani nae nyamaza si lazima kujibizana nae - Lakini pale mtu anapovunja sheria ataambiwa na vyombo vingine vinaweza kumshugulikia wapo humu wamejazana tele .
On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 8:35:14 PM UTC+3, fatma...@yahoo.com wrote:
-- Mbona kuna mada nyingi hazichangiwi na siku inapita ?
Wewe mwanasheria unashindwa nini kuelimisha wenzako kuhusu sheria mpaka hatabazi alete hoja uanze kumtukana ?
Wewe Mhandisi unashindwa nini kuleta mada na mawazo ya kihandisi mpaka fulani alete uanze kumcheka na kumtukana ?
Narudia tena tuache upuuzi - nyie mnaojifanya viherehere ndio mmefikisha nchi hapa , ndio mliowaleta mnaowatukana duniani , wengi wenu huyu happy na wengi wanaotoa michango yao ni watoto hata wajukuu zenu .
Msimamo wangu ni huo .
On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 8:35:14 PM UTC+3, fatma...@yahoo.com wrote:
Elisa
Naafiki mawazo yenu kwa group hili lilikuwa na malengo mazuri na kuna kipindi tulitaka kufungua bank yetu ambayo tuli propose iitwe BIDII bank. Nakumbuka enzi hizo mtu akileta mada yenye matusi kejeli au jambo lolote lililo kinyume na maadili yetu alikuwa akionywa na akikaidi anafungiwa. Nakumbuka kuna kipindi mwenzetu mmoja alimkamata kibaka akampiga sana na akajisifu hapa kwenye group matokeo yake Moderator alimfungia. Nashangaa siku hizi watu wanawapongeza polisi waliotumia wheel spana kuwapiga raia kisha Moderator anawasifia. Ndugu yangu Yona Maro ule moyo wako wa kizalendo wa kuthamini haki za binadamu umeishia wapi? Ulikuwa ukiwatetea hata vibaka wasipigwe ila wapelekwe kwenye mkondo wa sheria lakini leo unawapongeza askari ambao ndio walinzi wa amani kuchukua sheria mkononi kuwapiga raia na silaha ambazo hata kwenye jeshi hilo hazipo kisheria? Sote tunajua kuwa wheel spana ni kwa ajili ya kubadilisha mpira wa gari leo hii askari anaitumia kumpiga raia na nyie mnamsifia. Hivi hiyo ndio kulinda amani na utulivu au ndio kuchochea vurugu na machafuko? Jamani kila mmoja wetu kwa imani yake turudi kwa mola wetu kuliombea taifa hili maana tumeuweka ubinadamu mbali tumeshabikia siasa
Nakupongeza uliyeleta wazo la kubadili mwelekeo wa group. Kama yuko Moderator anaeweza kufungua group nyingine yenye muelekeo wa kupambana na changamoto za kimaisha wale wasiotaka siasa chafu tukajitoa na kuwaachia group yao. Nasikitika ndugu yangu Yona sijui kalishwa kitu gani hadi kubadilika kiasi hicho
Nawasilisha
Fatma
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From: "'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Sender: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 06:13:43
To: <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Wanabidii Group Suggestions
Nin amuunga mkono nami Ndugu Omar. Njia mojawapo ni kuacha kujadili mambo ya kipuuzi yanayoletwa humu. Kwa mfano naona kuna mada zinatoka humu hazifai. Ukifuatiliwa utakuta karibu robo ya mijadala inalihusu. Na pia kuna mijadala ya maana inaletwa humu. Haijadiliwi na kutoa mwelekeo. Naamini mijadala mingine ikipuuzwa itakufa yenyewe na wanaoishabikia.
Lakini bidii inafaa jinsi ilivyo kwa sababu kuna watu wanajikosoa na kubadilika kwa kadri wanavyoshiriki.
Maro alipokuwa Moderator alikuwa akikanyakanya watu na kukaripia. Sasa anaunga mkono baadhi ya mambo ambayo zamani alikuwa anayakemea na pengine kufungia watu
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On Thu, 2/5/15, Damas Makangale <fdmakangale@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Wanabidii Group Suggestions
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, February 5, 2015, 5:00 PM
Ndugu
Wanabidi,
Namuunga
kabisa alichosema ndugu Omar Kaseko kwa maana kwa kweli
wengine sio wanasiasa wala makada wa chama chochote kile cha
siasa ila tulikuwa tunapenda kufuatilia mada mbalimbali
zilikuwa zikijadiliwa humu ndani ila kwa sasa kwa sasa
imekuwa ni tofauti kabisa matusi na kebehi za kisiasa
zimekuwa ndio misingi mikubwa ya kundi hili kwa sasa.
Kwa sasa e imekuwa ni kero kubwa sana kwa wale wasiokuwa na
upande wowote pale uonapo njia ya matusi na kejeli
zinapotumika kufikisha ujumbe wa mtu au kikundi fulani cha
watu.
Nia ya
grupu ilikuwa ni nzuri katika kuelemishana kupitia nyanja za
kisiasa, kiutamaduni na kiuchumi pia kwa kupeana mada
zitakazo panua uwezo wetu kifikirwa , kimtazamo na kimaono
nia kuu katika kujikwamua kimtazamo maisha na kiuchumi.
Asante
kwa kuona mbali
Yours Sincerely,
Damas Makangale
Administrator,
University of Dar es Salaam Computing Centre,
City Centre Branch,
CRDB Building 10 Floor,Azikiwe Street Opp.Posta Mpya,
P.O.Box 35062,
Dar es Salaam,
TANZANIA.
E-Mail Address: makangale@udsm.ac.tz,
fdmakangale@gmail.com
Skype: dmakangale
Telephone: +255 2122669/2136561
Fax Number: +255 2136560
Mobile Number:+255 713 570 024
2015-02-05 16:44
GMT+03:00 Kaseko <omarykaseko@gmail.com>:
Ndugu
wanabidii,
We need to change our
direction. Hii group imekuwa open sana and inapoteza maana.
I believe idea ilikuwa ni kuwakutanisha wanabidii, wasomi na
watu wanaoweza kutoa mawazo yao ya kulipeleka mbele taifa
letu, kudiscuss issues openly and respectfully na kutafuta
solution ya matatizo ya taifa letu ambayo ni mengi
mno.
Kwa sasa kuna watu wengi
sana kwenye group ambao hawana hizo qualifications. I think
tunatakiwa kujiunga upya tena kwenye hii group kwa ku apply
na isiwe kila mtu anaweza kujiunga. Nashauri pia kuwepo na
system ya kuondoa watu ambao wako kwenye group kisiasa,
kibiashara na kivyama zaidi na sio maendeleo ya nchi kwa
jumla.
I believe hii group sio
ya Chadema wala CCM. I believe this is where intelligent
ideas zinaweza kutokea na we can discuss maendeleo na nini
kifanyike kusukuma watu mbele zaidi ya kuwa forced kusoma
articles ambazo hazina quality wala anything productive in
it.
The way we are going now
we are loosing credibility na quality kwenye hii group na
pia tutapoteza watu wa maana ambao tungependa kuwasoma na
kupata ideas zao. Hii sio group ya kufanya promotion ama
matangazo ya kibiashara, hii sio group ya kutukana wanasiasa
bali kurekebisha na kusema ukweli pale inapotakikana kusema
ukweli. Hii sio group ya kufanya kampeni za siasa ama vyama.
Hapa ni sehemu ya good information, discussions, new ideas
na mawazo endelevu,
Kuwa na title kama vile
journalist, economist, professor etc haikufanyi wewe kuwa
mwanabidii. Tuna hawa watu humu na baadhi yao ni watu
wasioweza kutufikisha popote. This is why nasema tuweke
utaratibu maalum wa watu kujiunga tena na hii group. Haya
ni mawazo yangu tu na inawezekana niko wrong. Mnaweza
kunisahihisha.
Regards,
Omar Kaseko
Kali TV Founder/Producer
http://www.kalitv.com
240-374-2192
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