Wednesday, 28 November 2012

Re: [wanabidii] African viewpoint: 'Thank goodness for colonialism'

The europeans should have let the african natives self-evolve. I also don't know that the african continent was dark at any point in time; that crept into the lexicon from white supremacists since Conrad's masterpiece: "heart of darkness". Africa was self governing, maybe not with the same mercurial pace of the europeans, but they were nevertheless evolving gradually and shoud have been let alone.

On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Juma Mzuri <jumamzuri@gmail.com> wrote:

Who told you Europeans brought civilization to Africa? Prior to the invasion (colonialism) of Africa by Europeans, Africa was doing SUPER-GREAT. We were mainly empires. The Kingdom of Mali, The Borno empire, The Oyo empire, the Sokoto caliphate etc. From what I've read, the Borno empire was a really strong Kingdom (militarily, politically & economically) that had strong influences at least across West Africa. Have you ever heard that "AFRICA IS THE HOME OF CIVILIZATION?" You had better believed that. Forget all those European lies about Africans being Unclad when they came. BIG LIES.


Before the Europeans came, We had ships, we had gold, we had infrastructure etc. All these we built by ourselves (without knowing that some other races existed). We built Egypt, Ancient Pharaohs & Egyptians (& indeed all North Africans) were all black Africans until a war with the neighbouring Arabs to the east that led to a defeat & thereby causing these Arabs to take over our lands & it's marvels. Prisoners of wars probably were taken as slaves by the Arabs & they continued to infiltrate North Africa for all the goodies & natives had to keep migrating southward for fear of abduction for slavery.


It was probably this vulnerability that the Europeans (who were already trading with us) capitalized on & started to steal our resources, invade our territories, enslave & colonize us. Don't let anybody deceive you, these people used to look up to us. These people used to come to admire and marvel at our civilization. Many Africans & blacks are ignorant of their history & these people would ensure to the best of their abilities that it stays that way cos they fear that if we know our true history, we would fight for it & dominate the world again & they don't want that. Why do you think they threat blacks harshly all over the world? The truth is that they sub-consciously feel a complex (for those of them that know this history) & they in turn want to play psychological games by making Blacks feel inferior or worthless.


 Why do you think the western media hardly has anything good to say about Africa? They keep showing the world that African children die of hunger, malaria, kwashioko, aids etc.... Be honest with yourself, me & you live in Africa. 


How many times have you seen those things in real life? (even though they exist.) The plan is to subconsciously make everyone feel sorry for Africans thereby making Ignorant Africans "look up" to them & if you don't follow their dictates, they make you feel like you're unappreciative of their help to have delivered you from a "sub-human" life & they start treating you like trash again. Bob Marley said "If you know your history, you would know where you're coming from." Go listen to BUFFALO SOLDIER by Bob Marley & you'd learn a bit more about what I've just written here. Also go read about ancient Africa & know your history. Cheers.


God Bless Africa. Amen.


On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:57 AM, mngonge <mngonge@gmail.com> wrote:
I support you David
Had it been that colonialists are overtly still with us, things could
have been more better than they are today. Guys turn back and see how
the colonialists were serious in planning and implenting what they
meant, with the same scenarios compare with what most of african
leaders are doing. Colonialists were taking our resources for benefits
of their home citizens but african leaders are stealing our resources
and hide them in the banks of colonialists for the benefits of
colonialists and their families not citizens.


On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Tuse David <tusedavid@gmail.com> wrote:
> Could Africa have achieved civilisation (or at least the semblance of it)
> and (under)development without the intervention of the European invaders -
> and eventual colonial masters? I seriously doubt it. We would probably still
> have a very tribal existence (of the sort we see on Discovery Channel) were
> it not for the 'exposure' the Europeans brought along with them.
>
> If Africa has not been able to get it right in spite of globalisation and
> notwithstanding several modern paradigms of development to copy from in this
> day and age, then I am NOT convinced that we might have fared better without
> colonialism. We would simply have continued to grope in the dark.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Leila Abdul <hifadhi@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> There are some moments in life that keep coming back to you.
>>
>> Years ago I boarded a flight from Bangalore, India to Bombay, now
>> Mumbai.
>>
>> The man sat next to me started chatting and then he said: "Thank
>> goodness for colonialism."
>>
>> I was stunned by his statement and I moved into combat mode to take
>> him on.
>>
>> But then I had second thoughts and sat back and listened.
>>
>> "You see if it was not for colonialism and the British in this case,
>> you, an African, and I, an Indian, would not have been able to
>> communicate and have a good conversation."
>>
>> What could I say?
>>
>> More than 50 years since sub-Saharan Africa started down the road to
>> independence and self governance, we have continued to conduct our
>> affairs in the languages of the colonialists.
>>
>> Business talks
>>
>> For a long time there appeared to be parity between French and
>> English, with Portuguese of course spoken in territories that were
>> ruled by Portugal.
>>
>> Despite the gathering of many African leaders over the weekend in the
>> Democratic Republic of Congo's capital, Kinshasa, for the Francophonie
>> summit of French-speaking countries, there is no getting away from the
>> reality that English has finally won the day and is now the
>> international language.
>>
>> It is a reality that the more nimble Francophone leaders have come to
>> see as the way to boost the prospects of their countries in an
>> increasingly global world, a world dominated by the mighty United
>> States.
>>
>> As I travel around Africa from Mozambique to Senegal, I have noticed
>> the increasing use of English.
>>
>> Rwanda's move to adopt English as an official language was initially
>> seen as a result of many of the country's post-genocide leaders having
>> returned home from Uganda where they had been educated in English, the
>> main medium of education.
>>
>> However, the country did not stop there.
>>
>> As a Commonwealth official, I well remember the frisson that went
>> round the room when it was first mentioned that President Paul Kagame
>> wanted his country to join the Commonwealth, as well as being a member
>> of Francophonie.
>>
>> What would the French say, some asked?
>>
>> Yet Rwanda persisted and was not only seen as a bit of a darling for
>> countries such as the United Kingdom, which has supported the
>> government with financial assistance but the country has also formed
>> strong relationships, particularly in business, through the
>> Commonwealth.
>>
>> In three of the five members of the East African community of which
>> Rwanda is a member, business is mostly conducted in English.
>>
>> Seeing the success of Rwanda has triggered interest in its neighbour
>> Burundi, a French-speaking country which too has signalled its wish to
>> join the Commonwealth.
>>
>> I expect English will soon become a must language for all students.
>>
>> Such is the power of the US and its economy that anyone who wants a
>> piece of the action has to speak the language of the mighty dollar.
>>
>> Africans wanting to become global players appear to be bowing to this
>> dictum.
>>
>> There is little that I admire about the colonial era, and the recent
>> revelations in a British court about the tortures and horror colonial
>> officers visited on some Kenyans in their fight against the Mau Mau,
>> tell you a lot about the so-called civilised world.
>>
>> Yet for all that, there is no getting away from the fact that we will
>> continue using the languages of the colonialists but increasingly that
>> language will be English.
>>
>> I have come to agree with my travelling companion on that flight in
>> India all those years ago.
>>
>> After all in most cases, it is still one of the foreign languages that
>> I have to use to speak to my sister or brother from another part of
>> Africa.
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19961671
>>
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